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Post by paul on Jun 12, 2013 7:41:02 GMT 9.5
....personal experience tells me that the future is quite fixed..... This is a traditional philosophical and theological topic. Is the future fixed? If it is fixed, what is free will? Should humans even try to achieve anything? At present this is a very real issue for the human world. The economic systems are in a long term down trend. Last time poverty produced intolerance and authoritarianism and a world war. Does humanity have a choice? |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 12, 2013 9:31:09 GMT 9.5
Yes! Humanity does have a choice.... imo  Patterns make an events predictable, but they are only patterns. We can alter the pattern if we are willing to choose and then stand by our choices. I think pessimism is one of our greatest enemies, it seems so innocuous we allow it to pass unimpeded - it is not a password. Greed,apathy and narrow vision likewise. Ever wondered just how selfish we are or can be at the personal level? |
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Post by mgc on Jun 12, 2013 21:27:11 GMT 9.5
i have not been able to alter any event i knew (sometimes years in advance) about. some of these events were natural, some man made. obviously there is some degree of free will. i could for instance choose to tell u this or keep quiet, but it seems to have little or no influence on large scale events.
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Post by paul on Jun 13, 2013 8:14:27 GMT 9.5
Once long ago when I had no income for 5 years, I was told telepathically that the amount of money that I had was more exact than I could imagine. At the end of the 5 years I moved away and after some months found a job. When I got my second pay I bought a car that for reasons of synchronicity seemed intended for me. As I drove it away I had $10 in the world until my next pay. And I remembered what I was told 4 years earlier.
Was that a fixed future?
As a side comment, ever since I was a teenager (in a lower middle class family) I always thought that I would never lack for money. Perhaps I knew something.
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Post by paul on Jun 13, 2013 10:15:57 GMT 9.5
>we have an asteroid belt between mars and Jupiter, it sort of means life here is on the third epoch at least I have read that humans used to inhabit Mars until it got wrecked. So what are the epochs? >we appear to only have one sun, statistically we lost one of those puppies... highly suspect of something gone wrong here An interesting proposition. Is there some account of that online? >they threw down a hard start life kit It looks like several kits - "evolutionary" explosions "The "Cambrian explosion" ... There were two similar explosions in the evolution of land plants: after a cryptic history beginning about 450 million years ago, land plants underwent a uniquely rapid adaptive radiation during the Devonian period, about 400 million years ago.[12] Furthermore, Angiosperms (flowering plants) originated and rapidly diversified during the Cretaceous period." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_Also see Lloyd Pye's "Everything you know is wrong" www.lloydpye.com/eykiw.htm |
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2013 7:47:15 GMT 9.5
>I would ask what is the longest you have looked inside to discover a truth
I am not sure how to respond to that question. When I was younger I would spend time each night before sleep examining my actions of the day to discover motivations.
These days I work on the energy flows between my light body and the cosmos and some of its entities.
In seeking what is true, I spend quite a lot of time extending my awareness along the energy structures of nearby Existence.
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2013 7:51:24 GMT 9.5
>Can our hearts lie to us? Or do we lie to our Hearts?
An interesting question. In my view there is a personal heart (4.7 to 4.4) and a transpersonal heart (4.3 to 4.1). While I have not made a study of it, it should be possible to misuse personal heart energies - e.g. love someone in order to manage them.
Generally however the quality of love that is used to manipulate is emotional rather than heart.
There are also hearts that are traumatised (e.g. broken) and they may not be pure hearts.
So there perhaps in the common English expression - of pure heart - we may have the answer to your question. The pure heart does not lie to us.
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Post by mgc on Jun 15, 2013 20:49:27 GMT 9.5
the amount of money that I had was more exact than I could imagine. thats a bit vague. im talking pictures, video, names and places. undoubtable personal evidence. |
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Post by paul on Jun 15, 2013 20:56:15 GMT 9.5
>thats a bit vague. im talking pictures, video, names and places. undoubtable personal evidence.
I thought that was pretty good evidence of fixedness - that some intelligence could predict how much money I would need for 4 years and arrange for that amount - an accuracy of 1 part in 1000.
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Post by mgc on Jun 15, 2013 21:28:52 GMT 9.5
i would accept it if ud have had a "vision" in which u saw yourself (in first person perspective) driving away the car u bought while knowing theres 10 dollars in your wallet.
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Post by paul on Jun 16, 2013 6:54:41 GMT 9.5
Long ago in Scotland I lived in a house where I was generally alone and had very few visitors.
One night I had a dream that 3 people I knew came to visit and I also saw the house had a another storey that I had not previously seen.
The next day 2 of those people came to visit the house and said that the 3rd was just behind them in the road, but the 3rd person never arrived.
Of what is that evidence?
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Post by mgc on Jun 17, 2013 0:46:16 GMT 9.5
strong evidence of a subconscience?
im not so sure dreams = visions (u know if uve had 1).
dreams might be lucid, visions always r.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 17, 2013 8:05:33 GMT 9.5
Care to share further with your visions mgc? I was particularly taken with your last line .. "dreams might be lucid,visions always r." When someone has not experienced a vision they are apt to put it down to dreaming, but visions are way over and above even lucid dreaming. I have experienced both. With lucid dreaming my experience was that the dream takes on an enhanced quality or reality but one knows that one is dreaming and one knows they can do anything they like. (I'm embarrassed to say all I could think of the first time was to ask to be able to walk through a wall I did and it was quite an interesting sensation. The second time I asked to bungee jump, I am frightened of heights. I did and now I know what a buzz that can be, not that I will try it out in the physical plane ) |
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2013 12:23:46 GMT 9.5
I suspect that visions involve other entities enhancing human perception (clairvoyance) by sharing light body substance and thereby enabling the human to share in some degree the perceptions of the other entity.
If that proposition is so then the situation or events seen in the vision may be the experience or the imagination of the other entity.
So can humans have visions without intervention? Would those visions be as clear as managed visions?
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Post by mgc on Jun 17, 2013 14:00:06 GMT 9.5
Care to share further with your visions mgc? "" So can humans have visions without intervention? Would those visions be as clear as managed visions?"" whats a managed vision? i suspect an interdimensional (4th / time) link between my current and future self. i received information (in a manner i could only describe as telepathic) about events that was in the public domain after the event happened, before the event happened. these events r usually shocking or noteworthy. the magnitude of the event is related to its chance of being picked up on. |
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2013 14:33:44 GMT 9.5
whats a managed vision? i suspect an interdimensional (4th / time) link between my current and future self. i received information (in a manner i could only describe as telepathic) ... before the event happened. Thus we have the scenario of a future entity manipulating the perceptions of a current entity - showing a future scene. Is that a managed vision? |
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Post by mgc on Jun 17, 2013 22:29:16 GMT 9.5
i dont know what defines a managed vision.
i dont think my future self intentionally sends me info.
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2013 5:31:30 GMT 9.5
>what defines a managed vision.
An entity that manages the vision - a TV producer for the astral plane
>i dont think my future self intentionally sends me info
An accident?
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Post by mgc on Jun 19, 2013 2:11:30 GMT 9.5
so no, not a managed vision.
if the opposite of intentionally is accidental, then prolly yes on the latter.
r u familiar with the random number generator experiment related to large scale events?
perhaps an enormous event allows a temporary temporal tear between identical identities (apart from 4d differences)
ee a ttt b ii
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Post by paul on Jun 19, 2013 7:39:18 GMT 9.5
>random number generator experiment related to large scale events? This is it noosphere.princeton.edu/ It seems that hard wired random number generators go non-random at the same time - possibly related to planetary events. This is to be expected if the material world is underpinned by an energy system e.g aether. Of course it may also be that such an energy system is underpinned by an intelligence system. If so, what does random mean? |
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