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Post by paul on Mar 6, 2013 8:00:08 GMT 9.5
Humans obviously are a mixture of light and dark in order to function properly. The balance however is usually overdone towards darkness by the presence of an entity that makes its home in most human minds. The entity seeks self-preservation and it does that by concealing its existence including by persuading the human that it is he (or that it is the divine presence). The entity identifies with its self-image and that is based on the perservation of its belief systems. Thus the entity is threatened by disagreement with its beliefs. It manages disagreement with its beliefs by disposing of whatever disagrees. Thus it may allow the physical body to die rather than admit wrong beliefs about what is healthy. Similarly for relationships. Human society deals with this dark structure by encouraging a socialisation process: sharing, humility, respect for authority, working for the greater good. Generally this works reasonably well, eventually after many lives allowing the human to transmute the entity so that it becomes creative rather than defensive. Now while the mental lodger is primarily dark the human is susceptible to greater dark influences and this can lead to a wide variety of inhuman crime. If the junior initiate is properly prepared then it is possible to locate and interrogate such dark overshadowing entities. The authoritative demand: "show me your light" often works well with the entity becoming less dark, shrinking and turning away. Occasionally there are dark over-shadowings by artificial entities that have no light at all. These need to be dealt with in other ways that generally require a greater capacity on the part of the initiate. For example the initiate that is beyond light and dark (on the lower planes) might suck the dark energy out of the entity thereby forcing it to shrink. Another option is to look for the sponsor of the artificial entity. The sponsor almost certainly has some light, but commonly exists beyond the level of the human soul - so that soul-consciousness is not sufficient protection in dealing with the greater entity. Indeed there is a tradition that some entities can consume human souls en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_eater_%28folklore%29The junior initiate therefore does not proceed too far up the chain of dark entities without clear support from an inner patron. So should one attempt to intervene when conscious of the presence of a dark lodger in a human? This is a difficult question and involves karma, free will, safe working practices, and sponsorship. For example, some over-shadowed humans feel lost if their familiar darkness is pushed away. I am inclined to leave such situations until it is clear that I should act.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 6, 2013 8:42:08 GMT 9.5
I found that post most interesting on many levels, and it is something I have been thinking about lately. At world level it made me think of the current North Korean vs Rest of the World situation. This part leapt out at me also.. If the junior initiate is properly prepared then it is possible to locate and interrogate such dark overshadowing entities. The authoritative demand: "show me your light" often works well with the entity becoming less dark, shrinking and turning away.
Reminds me of the IG function.
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Post by paul on Mar 7, 2013 7:33:10 GMT 9.5
>What is to be said of a human with a dark entity soul, and he absolutely refuses to serve his master
I had a friend who was a genuine 3rd degree initiate at the time who told me that he incarnated to be with Jesus at that time but that he was killed before those events and then his soul was so put out that it went on to the dark path for several incarnations.
Given my current understanding of the Jesus mythology I am not sure how literally to take the circumstances that he described, but I do not doubt that the solar angel (intelligence that informs the soul) might well turn away until called back by the human.
If the solar angel turns away, the soul body (elemental intelligence), having reacted adversely to its unrequited expectation may well be informed (ensouled) by a dark entity. Such an example may well have been the prompt leading to this thread.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 7, 2013 8:11:15 GMT 9.5
RE: the authorative demand: "Show me your light" - can you do that mentally, one might get carted away otherwise How would one know one was strong enough to handle the results of such a command? Have been attacked by the invisible once before, do not wish to repeat the experience.
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Post by paul on Mar 7, 2013 8:18:32 GMT 9.5
I would suggest that until you know how to control your level of consciousness (in order to know your adversary and to rise above it) it is wise to stick to heart operations and even then not to confront so much as just send love.
The knowledge and control of the levels of consciousness is sometimes termed Rising on the Planes. That, depending on the form learned, allows directed metaphysical actions.
The thread on the 21 steps to enlightenment gives a few more details.
I was taught a numerical form of Rising on the Plane one morning during meditation. The numerical form is particularly useful for experiments and peer observation, being able to be very specific e.g. 4.2.3.3.2
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Post by paul on Mar 7, 2013 8:20:00 GMT 9.5
The demand :show me your light - is an inner demand. It will be mental if that is the level on which the demander is operating at the time.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 7, 2013 8:37:19 GMT 9.5
Can a possessing entity give away hints of its presence to others without the human being aware of it? I know a few people with eccentricities (most of us do). When they are good they are very, very good and when they are bad they are 'not themselves' - behaviour like snorting like a pig repeatedly, frothing at the mouth, inability to dress themselves properly, disrupting smooth proceedings for no reason. Fortunately these behaviours do not belong all to the one person I believe they are totally unaware of the effect they have on the people who view this conduct.
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Post by paul on Mar 7, 2013 14:00:46 GMT 9.5
>Can a possessing entity give away hints of its presence to others without the human being aware of it?
Certainly, particularly if the entity has explained that it is the true human. Even on a superficial level you may notice people say: I don't understand myself, or, I don't know what came over me.
Such statements are not necessarily indicative of a possessing entity but may indicate that the nature spirits running the chakras have problems and agenda that intrude without the witnesser seeing what is happening.
One of our ancient brethren here, when she got rather old, regressed to her WW2 mannerisms that would have shocked her parents. I expect that was because her higher parts had departed leaving the emotional or even only the physical chakra in charge.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 8, 2013 8:33:31 GMT 9.5
The numerical form is particularly useful for experiments and peer observation, being able to be very specific e.g. 4.2.3.3.2 Whilst I can follow what you are saying re 7.6, 6.2 etc the numbers you selected above I have no idea about. Just out of curiosity (and only with a short window of time before I was interrupted) I meditated on that sequence of numbers. Whilst I usually see beautiful blues from the pale malecraft masonic blue to deepest of blues surrounded by a lovely mid yellow green. With those numbers in mind the green disappear altogether and a red flame appeared in the centre (a longish narrow flame). Just coincidence? I looked for 'Rising on the Plane' exercises on the net but couldn't find any using that search key. Any suggestions?
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Post by paul on Mar 8, 2013 9:47:08 GMT 9.5
>With those numbers in mind the green disappear altogether and a red flame appeared in the centre (a longish narrow flame)
Too good!
I put those numbers there specifically for you.
4 indicates buddhic plane - heart energies. 4.2 indicates 2nd to highest subplane and being a 2 is closely aligned with the energy of the monad that manifests in the heart as a flame. 4.2 breaks into 7 - hence 4.2.3 is the 3rd sub-sub-plane That in turn breaks into 7, thus 4.2.3.3 That in turn breaks into 7 but this time taking the 2nd sub-sub-sub-sub-plane.
Rising on the Planes is taught by that name by some Kabbalists and was by the Golden Dawn. Simplified 7 step or 7 colour versions exist but they are not suited to technical work. Generally a competent teacher is required to check that the process is working properly.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 9, 2013 12:26:09 GMT 9.5
I am still not sure how to do what you suggest but will go through my library and see if I can find more detailed instructions. Thank you for helping to make this subject much more understandable for me. I am quite keen now to work on this.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 10, 2013 8:00:08 GMT 9.5
Will do, but I am thinking we may have all we need on the 21 Steps thread.
I am confused about technique, ie who really wants to meditate 7.7? What can be gained from that and how would one use it. As I said I am confused.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 10, 2013 8:01:51 GMT 9.5
And thanks for that link foxfires, I have saved it up to read later. You really read for 10 hours a day? Oh my.
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Post by paul on Mar 10, 2013 8:16:01 GMT 9.5
>I am confused about technique, ie who really wants to meditate 7.7?
The operative Freemason can operate at all the levels of existence within his/her competence.
For example I inherited a Wagner LP from a fellow who was sometimes possessed. I played the record and found it disturbing. So I went through the lower subplanes pulling that substance out of the LP and after that I found playing it uplifting.
There are of course less trivial reasons for being skilled and having right relationship upon all the sub-planes within reach - for example using the knocks to call those elementals to order.
In the case of meditation it is good to start at the bottom and work up - giving each level of the chakra its due wages.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 10, 2013 8:19:13 GMT 9.5
Is recognition the keyword here?
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Post by paul on Mar 10, 2013 8:22:56 GMT 9.5
Right relationship with all of the subsidiary intelligences is a precondition for mastery of internal energies of a human.
One of the side effects is the resolution of trauma leading to resolution of personal karma.
Further the matter of the denser subplanes needs to be transformed into higher subplane matter - eventually leaving the initiate with only 1st subplane matter.
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Post by paul on Jul 25, 2013 8:17:46 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Aug 2, 2013 6:51:41 GMT 9.5
Darkness in humans can manifest in various ways, particularly in disturbing relationships and in limiting thought patterns to approved forms.
What then of modern training systems that have replaced education?
Educo: I draw out.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 30, 2013 13:15:25 GMT 9.5
Stumbled over this this morning and knew it would fit into the forum somewhere... very interesting. Talk about pointing swords...
Inner and Outer Guards, swords, cowans and intruders all spring to mind.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 30, 2013 13:19:04 GMT 9.5
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