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Post by sammy on Aug 27, 2022 1:52:08 GMT 9.5
You could try (I did). But it would be easier to go insane (did that too). The "process" is as different as people are. Custom if you will. The "light" or energy being the destination stays the same. So you could go say God or Allah or the GAoTU exists but it would be seen as the same words repeated by so many others. My theory +0- I believe shows the field in which it plays. But not who will fall where. Again reduced to the point within a circle. Also again more of the same words with no guidance or clarity. This leaves me to believe the process is that of choice and intent. We will choose to progress or fall to its power. Thank you for your frankness Sammy. As I don’t expect Earthly powers that be to be that favourable towards anyone essentially improving on their work, I remain quite happy to audit and report back. They can explain themselves to God. That said I do find it fascinating. But until I can find ways of testing, repeatedly, and getting results, I will just keep listening and learning. Sammy when you read this line what is the first thing that comes to your mind? Anyone else what is the first thing that came to your mind when you read the last sentence? What came to mind: I find it oddly placed we have imagination. A space where anything can happen without actuality or with adding time and work actuality. The only limits are our own.
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 2:19:11 GMT 9.5
Thank you for your frankness Sammy. As I don’t expect Earthly powers that be to be that favourable towards anyone essentially improving on their work, I remain quite happy to audit and report back. They can explain themselves to God. That said I do find it fascinating. But until I can find ways of testing, repeatedly, and getting results, I will just keep listening and learning. Sammy when you read this line what is the first thing that comes to your mind? Anyone else what is the first thing that came to your mind when you read the last sentence? What came to mind: I find it oddly placed we have imagination. A space where anything can happen without actuality or with adding time and work actuality. The only limits are our own. Well I failed there then! Given Paul has been able to get me to react to energy cubes, I thought I would try a simple experiment where I put my intent into words. I failed. I was looking for ‘47’ btw. Thanks for answering.
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 2:47:32 GMT 9.5
What came to mind: I find it oddly placed we have imagination. A space where anything can happen without actuality or with adding time and work actuality. The only limits are our own. Well I failed there then! Given Paul has been able to get me to react to energy cubes, I thought I would try a simple experiment where I put my intent into words. I failed. I was looking for ‘47’ btw. Thanks for answering. Anyone else willing to give it a go? The answer for you isn’t 47. Might as well fail twice!
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Post by sammy on Aug 27, 2022 2:54:39 GMT 9.5
What came to mind: I find it oddly placed we have imagination. A space where anything can happen without actuality or with adding time and work actuality. The only limits are our own. Well I failed there then! Given Paul has been able to get me to react to energy cubes, I thought I would try a simple experiment where I put my intent into words. I failed. I was looking for ‘47’ btw. Thanks for answering. As far as remote viewing/mental powers data.. the largest issue in seeing this would be security clearance. Otherwise just doesn't exist outside fiction. So basically... no. Haha
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 3:23:42 GMT 9.5
Oh I wouldn’t be so sure Sammy. I spent c15 months intensively training myself with the help of declassified documents and retired US military viewers/those they trained, who now work privately (easily findable on google).
I am not very good at it, but have had a couple of impressive sessions. The key problems are…
1. Expectation gaps between what viewers can realistically do, and what people expect or need them to do. 2. Not helped by some viewers claiming that they are never wrong/miss a target. 3. The level of detail required to be off any practical use was way beyond my capabilities. 4. Some viewers treat their results as established fact, when at best it could be a possibility. You need to back it up with real data.
There is a commercial market for good remote viewers (or so trainers claim). I sometime wonder if their clients are global spooks just having a looksie just in case.
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Post by sammy on Aug 27, 2022 3:35:21 GMT 9.5
Oh I wouldn’t be so sure Sammy. I spent c15 months intensively training myself with the help of declassified documents and retired US military viewers/those they trained, who now work privately (easily findable on google). I am not very good at it, but have had a couple of impressive sessions. The key problems are… 1. Expectation gaps between what viewers can realistically do, and what people expect or need them to do. 2. Not helped by some viewers claiming that they are never wrong/miss a target. 3. The level of detail required to be off any practical use was way beyond my capabilities. 4. Some viewers treat their results as established fact, when at best it could be a possibility. You need to back it up with real data. There is a commercial market for good remote viewers (or so trainers claim). I sometime wonder if their clients are global spooks just having a looksie just in case. I will just say the government is like a iceberg... what you see vs what you got..
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Post by paul on Aug 27, 2022 8:14:49 GMT 9.5
... parallel timelines... I can see them harmonise and come together. Funny thing is I think that I can manipulate that, but that may just be in relation to me specifically. I have seen timelines improperly connect and various beings work to separate them. Somewhere on exopolitics.org there was a statement that friendly aliens had got fed up with sorting out timelines around this planet and trained a human time force to do the work. That seems likely to me Temporal war is a common theme these days in "fictional" material. exopolitics.org/man-in-the-high-castle-is-soft-disclosure-of-temporal-war-revealed-in-cosmic-secret/As for manipulation, Stewart, I have no doubt you can do that. If you want confirmation, you might want to find a human that can see timelines and do your work while they watch. In my experience of inner work, the peer(s) doing the real time reviewing will often see details that I do not - perhaps as I am too focused on my actions.
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Post by paul on Aug 27, 2022 15:54:36 GMT 9.5
I have seen at least one timeline where the Nazis were successful. Here is "Branton" with a similar timeline "... let me expatiate upon my home world-line. It is 25 years behind this time-line. Perhaps the most glaring departure between the two is that the United States never participated in the Second World War. After the conquest of Metropolitan France by Germany (and Italy), the British Empire signed an armistice and subsequent peace-treaty with the Axis powers The provisions of the settlement were actually quite lenient. There was to be no occupation and the British army was promptly repatriated (there was no Dunkirk - the war party in the Parliament toppled when the B.E.F. was bagged in France). And in return for German 'guidance' in British foreign (and to a lesser degree, domestic) policy and the contribution of a modest expeditionary force (mainly naval) to the great anti-Bolshevik crusade, Hitler, to the extreme annoyance of the Italians, personally guaranteed the integrity of the British Empire (a point not lost on the Japanese either). Although Hitler was very partial to Mussolini as an individual, the German military established a far more intimate relationship with the English than they ever desired to with their ostensible Italian allies. Nevertheless, the remnants of the war party, in the guise of a British-first movement, was able to survive, after a fashion, as the loyal Parliamentary opposition. Punctuated with violence, the socialist and labor coalition was suppressed, intimidated, co-opted, or bought-off. They remain to this day however the source of the English Resistance (by way of comparison, they are to the United Kingdom what the Basques are to contemporary Spain in this world-line). WW II was much less damaging to Britain than was the case here. A number of nations, especially Australia and New Zealand, were more pro-Empire than even the English! South Africa became the 'fascist conscience' of Great Britain, while Canada became the haven for the disloyal (albeit ineffectual) opposition. India remained the jewel in the crown; but the sub-continent was a much more fractious place than it was in the pre-war period. On my world-line, during the war many thousands of Jews were surreptitiously ransomed by concerned parties in the Western Hemisphere. Otherwise, they and others were gradually exhausted as slave-labor. It was the maw of inhuman economics that consumed their lives rather than occultic monomania. As if attempting to subdue China wasn't a sufficient strain upon Japan's resources, beginning in May 1939 they found themselves in an ever expanding war with the Soviet Union. Being so preoccupied on the the mainland of Asia the Japanese Empire couldn't even seriously entertain a general offense against the United States or even the vestigial European colonial powers (particularly since they were now the clients of Germany). With Britain and Japan thus removed as instigators, the interventionist cause collapsed in America. Even after the invasions of the Soviet Union the consensus of the citizenry was: "It's far away... they might all kill each other off... what about us?" A degree of artificial prosperity was generated by the expansion of the armed forces (less than undertaken by your country during WW II, but stupendous compared to the pre-war levels of either world-line) and more decisively by the elaboration of the armaments industry. The dominant isolationist faction accepted the conversion of the United States into Fortress America, and the internationalists had to be content with arranging for the hemispheric defense. It wasn't until approximately 1960 that the United States was able to surmount the pitfalls created by the Great Depression. We did not enjoy the unique and tremendous economic advantages that allowed the America of this world-line to so spectacularly flourish. There was little transfer of hard assets (principally undertaken by Great Britain in your time-line) to our coffers. There was no post-war worldwide captive market for our exports and investments. And there was no returning throng of potential consumers prepared to re-vitalize the domestic economy. Consider the ramifications of that last absent phenomenon. We didn't have a baby-boom! There was no demographic displacement to the suburbs (of course there was some inevitable expansion in that direction)! On the other hand, we too have an interstate highway system-and one completed earlier than yours (facilitates troop-movements you know). Our material quality of life would seem Spartan, somewhat shabby, and rather technologically unsophisticated to you (even allowing for the 25 year discrepancy in our 'temporal velocities'), but a preservationist would regard my U.S. of A. as a paradise." www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel19.htm"Branton" has written a lot au1lib.org/author/Bruce%20Alan%20Waltonau1lib.org/author/Branton
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 18:53:37 GMT 9.5
... parallel timelines... I can see them harmonise and come together. Funny thing is I think that I can manipulate that, but that may just be in relation to me specifically. I have seen timelines improperly connect and various beings work to separate them. Somewhere on exopolitics.org there was a statement that friendly aliens had got fed up with sorting out timelines around this planet and trained a human time force to do the work. That seems likely to me Temporal war is a common theme these days in "fictional" material. exopolitics.org/man-in-the-high-castle-is-soft-disclosure-of-temporal-war-revealed-in-cosmic-secret/As for manipulation, Stewart, I have no doubt you can do that. If you want confirmation, you might want to find a human that can see timelines and do your work while they watch. In my experience of inner work, the peer(s) doing the real time reviewing will often see details that I do not - perhaps as I am too focused on my actions. Paul That is good to know. My biggest fear is doing unintentional harm. When I feel ready to try, would you be willing to watch my work?
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Post by paul on Aug 27, 2022 18:55:27 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Aug 27, 2022 19:02:45 GMT 9.5
>When I feel ready to try, would you be willing to watch my work?
Happy to give it a go
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 19:19:59 GMT 9.5
1. This thread is very much worth rereading in full.
2. Dreams, I will admit I have wondered if my dreams (which I can typically remember for 20 min) were either (1) working out stuff from the days experiences); (2) from elsewhere, in the context of this thread, other timelines; (3) predictive. Given, as discussed on another thread, I can now feel timelines I wonder if there is bleed through. Conceptually at a theoretical level that could make sense.
3. Nazi’s. Even on this timeline remember that:-
i. The U.S. took German technology and within weeks/months was dropping nukes. Would that have happened without German technology? Who knows. But if Germany has lasted a few more weeks…… ii. Project Paperclip (Nazi scientists being taken to the US) may well have ended the war. But it also introduces strong Nazi energies into the US. Before that the U.S. was isolationist, after that Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars, Afghanistan, CIA everywhere etc. Can’t help but wonder how much of that has to do with the remnants of Nazi energies in the system. A lot would depend upon how integrated and influential those scientists became in the US establishment. For clarity I am not saying that the U.S. is Nazi, just that in the same way if you socialise with criminals you might get tempted, Nazi energies are so strong that they could deflect a nation through simple immersion.
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 19:29:17 GMT 9.5
>When I feel ready to try, would you be willing to watch my work? Happy to give it a go Thank you Paul. At this moment in time I can visualise them, their moving internal energies, and their sometimes straight parallel alignment and the twisting almost knot like sections. I can’t see the Earth that clearly is in there beyond a future focus point (your 2031?). What I can detect is a set of resonant energies that I am assuming to be me (but could be anything). I currently have zero idea of how to manipulate them, and worry about the law of unintended consequences and doing unintentional harm, but I feel confident that in time I will learn how to safely manipulate them. Safely in terms of not doing harm. In fact, if you are willing to give full honest feedback to this forum Paul, no matter how embarrassing to me (trust me I won’t mind I know this is a learning curve that I am at the initial stages on), it might help others progress. Perhaps we could do one soon while I have no real ability, then again every few months? At a time we are both on forum to give real time feedback? Would forumites be interested!
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 20:02:31 GMT 9.5
Perhaps a first session could simply be me trying to pull the set of energy threads that I resonate with closer together. Then reporting on any changes I feel (though I would be going in with the expectation that it would strengthen me). You Paul could give honest feedback no matter how negative. Be direct and to the point. My mind is already there as I type this.
I will happily redo it with you consciously watching Paul (which in itself would give further evidence as to whether my day dreaming is meaningful). But as my mind is strongly there, here are some real time thoughts.
1. I am at a position, where behind me we have fairly straight parallel cables (timelines?). Further back, quite a way, it seems knotty, but not too bad. Shortly, but still some way, in front of me is a knot like structure, with Paul’s 2031? Straight and close cabled beyond that. The cables directly in front of me are a bit wobbly (vibration like) compared to those behind me which are more resonant.
2. I am entering this timeline. Thick skin/cover. Wow fluid beautiful light, feels like a series of internal currents, each a different hue.
3. Let’s try to find myself. I seem to be drowning waving wildly through mist. (Yet I am not drowning in real life?) let’s insert myself into myself. That was easy enough. Now walking up steps to a chair, a big concrete type structure. High so everything is now quiet. While I am strongly tempted to dive down the other side (like being in a wing suit of a mountain), I am forcing myself to stay to try to draw other timelines closer.
4. How to do this? Let’s try simply sitting and resonating out the desire (a bit like active radar pings). Yes that has been noticed. Looking back on the various timelines, some responses have come. One is at the same position as me, if my head it North at the NNE to NE. Others are to various distances behind me. Let’s do a reverse ping to see if any are in front of me. Three seem to be. Two between N and W, one S to SW (but I want to say SE not sure why).
5. Let’s try to connect strings between these points. Can do but they break.
6. Let’s try increasing the resonance. I instinctively know that I have to use ancient Egyptian energies to do this. Give me a mo to get the generator turning. Instinctively I get the three sub generators in the Great Pyramid operating, add my sword and connect above and below. But I am constrained by the planetary cage I erected, so no go. Let’s try more inward.
7. Yes that worked, strong connections between the relevant points on the timelines. I am counting quickly and not accurately about/under a dozen in perhaps, I want to say a score, them multiple scores, then infinitive numbers. I can’t pin this down. Maybe I am connected to eight maybe a dozen, but strongly to 6-8, all in front of my seat at (ie from where I came, the past). The future ones no real connections.
8. Let’s tug gently. Yes they move at that point.
9. Let’s try to pull them towards me. Yes that works, with the cables moving to accommodate. Those behind me (ie the future) little if any response.
10. My eyes felt like popping as some entered me or came so close that it felt like they had. Connection broken, cables returning to normal.
11. All in my heart. Interesting seems to be an effect on the right side of my liver as well (I have non alcoholic fatty liver disease), and have previously ripped my muscles badly there causing me years of problems. On a recent ultrasound they thought I had been operated on. I guess it is messy in there.
12. Something is definitely happing to the right side of my liver.
13. My heart seems fuller but I can’t penetrate into to see why.
14. Let’s check the cables, those in front of me (in the past) seem fine. Those behind me (ie future?), there is a subtle change that I can only see in colour hues. A little faster movement I think.
15. What to do?
16. Let’s stand up walk back down the steps. Yip that’s it closed.
Paul sorry for doing that, but it just happened. Guess I need to work further on control. How do you suggest we do a second attempt? Though give me a little time.
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Post by paul on Aug 27, 2022 20:47:47 GMT 9.5
Your items 1 to 4 are easy to observe
5 is uncomfortable
6 easy to see
7 and 8 obscure
9 seems ok
10 has an energy release I can feel
11-12 liver seems related to anger on another timeline
13 fuller heart means it has picked up more cosmic energy
14 ok
15 are the steps/chair outside the timelines. Can you detect an entity that actually forms the steps and chair? It looks like the entity I mentioned long ago that makes the timelines
> it just happened
When the wave comes we go surfing
Off to bed now
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 27, 2022 22:58:48 GMT 9.5
Your items 1 to 4 are easy to observe 5 is uncomfortable 6 easy to see 7 and 8 obscure 9 seems ok 10 has an energy release I can feel 11-12 liver seems related to anger on another timeline 13 fuller heart means it has picked up more cosmic energy 14 ok 15 are the steps/chair outside the timelines. Can you detect an entity that actually forms the steps and chair? It looks like the entity I mentioned long ago that makes the timelines > it just happened When the wave comes we go surfing Off to bed now Thank you Paul. Don’t be scared to say I am wrong or misinterpreting etc. I work best with frankness, much better than with positive reinforcement. 15. I wasn’t looking outside the timelines, I just saw it as a void. Nothing there grabbed my attention. So no to « are there steps/chairs outside the timeline ». (Or at least not that I noticed). « Can you detect an entity that actually forms the steps and chair ? »….. Not at the time, and not as I type this, but then again my mind is not currently there. At the time is seemed a structure that I instinctively had to climb and sit on (though was as noted tempted to BASE jump with a wing suit off the rear). « It looks like the entity I mentioned long ago that makes the timelines »….. which begs the question as to why whoever made the timelines wants to enable me to work on them? That chair was quite comfortable (in an esoteric sense). This will sound very arrogant Paul, and please shoot me down on this, but I have felt (thought for a long time) that in a way this is my planet. Clearly in any material real life sense that is complete and utter nonsense. But it is a deep rooted thought that has come from somewhere. Even esoterically it is somewhat arrogant. But it is what it is.
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 28, 2022 11:43:04 GMT 9.5
15 are the steps/chair outside the timelines. Can you detect an entity that actually forms the steps and chair? It looks like the entity I mentioned long ago that makes the timelines Ok, as I tried to drift off to sleep tonight (it’s a Dexamethasone sleepless night in case relevant given the known effects of Dex on mental health), I slipped back into this. I find what I am going to write to be extremely difficult to believe, but feedback is feedback. 1. The steps (but not the chair) remained the same white, but I noticed on the sides flecks of gray. 2. On looking sidewards, I noticed that the structure was composed of not one but two sets of stairs (I did not look underneath to see if there eight in total). 3. After sitting on the chairs I decided to do the BASE jump off the back, and found myself leaping over the chair to the back (where I noticed the rear and other side steps.) 4. Problematic for wing suit BASE jumping, so I went to a corner and jumped off there, between two sets of stairs. 5. I now know the reason why I so wanted to do this. 6. I was able to fly myself around two complete energy threads.I don’t know which ones, it all happened rather fast. 7. These timeline cables are actually circular in that they are connected like circles, there is no end, just back to where you started. Fascinating. 8. The tough shield protecting each cable, is actually a dense yet high frequency (a bit counterintuitive to me) energy shield. 9. Within the cables things are less dense. 10. Perhaps driven by Paul’s prior posts, I don’t know, but I entered one that was very Nazi energy dominated. 11. They had (note past tense now) one operational, and five backup (that I could sense), for want of a better word guns/devices that were designed to shoot through the protective energy sheaths. Somehow I destroyed them. I willed it and it happened, but I don’t know how. 12. I then wingsuited my way back around the outside of that timeline repairing it from the effects of these weapons. 13. Initially I tried to use my energy as Paul does, but pretty soon realised that this was sub optimal, as it would drain me, and because I was offered energy from on high to use. Instinctively I accepted and got too work, working my way around the entire timeline several times, mapping it as I went. 14. I don’t think that the repairs are permanent, probably, I assume, to ongoing work inside the thread. 15. I then moved to the adjacent timeline that took most recent damage, and repaired that. 16. For some reason it did not occur to me to enter it. 17. Afterwards I thanked whoever for the help and expected to find Paul’s timeline entity. 18. But no, it was, as best as I can describe the supreme being/God of Gods/most high. (And know how off my rocker this point in itself sounds). 19. I was a bit humbled. I sensed warmth and happiness and support. 20. I asked about Pauls timeline entity. 21. A rather shy, embarrassed figure then appeared. 22. He was fully in charge, but not in total control of the timelines and seemed a bit embarrassed at me being there doing what I did. 23. I comforted him, though could not tell how much of his embarrassment was due to me, or the supreme being enabling me in this. 24. He did seem genuinely kind and caring. But also a bit tired, presumably of the amount of work he does. 25. I woke up. 26. Let’s see if I have missed anything that might help answer Paul’s specific questions. 27. I still did not see any other than this one, steps or stairs outside the timelines. Just the distant appearance of the supreme being, and later the timeline entity, who looked human. 28. The timeline entity was close to me. But no stairs or steps. 29. You know it didn’t occur to me to ask who constructed the steps and stairs. Must remember to do that in the future if a suitable opportunity arises, 30. Before I forget I realised at the end that the stairs/steps were so constructed so that they could spin and revolve, for easy access to all timelines from the chair. Clever. Both launching if necessary and returning was better enabled. That’s it folks, going do-lally Stewart.
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Post by paul on Aug 28, 2022 18:29:52 GMT 9.5
I suspect that some of your imagery is symbolic:
- I have had a dream with stairs that turned out not to be standard construction
- I have never seen timelines as circular. I tend to think timelines are supposed produce for a greater process
On the other hand:
- I have seen structure within timelines and have apparently operated outside timelines
- Nazi timelines are close by as can be seen from the ongoing interest in Hitler and Nazis
- You provide a third account of interference/destruction of inner plane "equipment" using intent
- I too am offered energy from on-high including energy patterns
> the supreme being/God of Gods/most high
The Most High is known to ancient Egyptians as An, and called "the god of millions of years" - hence not particuarly important, and afaik rather limited by time. For example the Greek gods get old.
So it is likely you met a considerably greater entity. The Entity that uses this galaxy as its body knows and likes you.
My timeline entity seems only to manage timelines in this arm of the galaxy.
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Post by stewartedwards on Aug 28, 2022 19:24:25 GMT 9.5
Paul
Again thank you. After some decent sleep I will admit that I am finding this hard to believe. I am just not that important.
I give you that I do think that that I could, properly resourced, have made a noticeable difference on the physical plane helping to harmonise this world as explained before; and recognise that theoretically if multiple timelines do exist it could be possible to manipulate them so that results are seen in our physical plane, if there are indeed points where the resonance between them, or connections do exist. But I also think that I would need to see physical evidence of this, before I could wholeheartedly believe.
Why? It’s just too easy. It’s in dreamland. I am on Dexamethasone. I am just not that important.
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Post by sammy on Aug 29, 2022 1:37:47 GMT 9.5
Paul Again thank you. After some decent sleep I will admit that I am finding this hard to believe. I am just not that important. I give you that I do think that that I could, properly resourced, have made a noticeable difference on the physical plane helping to harmonise this world as explained before; and recognise that theoretically if multiple timelines do exist it could be possible to manipulate them so that results are seen in our physical plane, if there are indeed points where the resonance between them, or connections do exist. But I also think that I would need to see physical evidence of this, before I could wholeheartedly believe. Why? It’s just too easy. It’s in dreamland. I am on Dexamethasone. I am just not that important. Not sure about Paul, but I would "just be glad with what you have". By this I mean you were given some work, you did some work, you were thanked and that was that. The work described tells me it was not for Earthly status.. but for the status of Earth. In service of others is the best work we can do.
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