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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2012 6:40:06 GMT 9.5
I was contemplating the nature of words. The initiate uses words cautiously, to avoid inappropriate energy impacts, and precisely, as a skilled craftsman, to create energy fields, events and and opportunities.
And I while contemplating that I noticed that I liked the phrase: the geometry of words.
So how do we observe the geometry of words?
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Post by paul on Jun 20, 2012 7:56:25 GMT 9.5
So are empty words geometrically shapeless?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 20, 2012 9:04:15 GMT 9.5
Not sure if I understand the question.
1 + 1 = 2
but
1 angle and 1 angle = 3
Is this the sort of thing you are talking about with words?
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Post by paul on Jun 20, 2012 9:17:24 GMT 9.5
Often words seem to fit together. Is that because their shapes are complementary - like jigsaw pieces?
For example try feeling the experience of saying: the geometry of words
Now say: constitutional rights.
Can you feel the difference?
How does one statement have more power than the other?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 20, 2012 9:37:28 GMT 9.5
Yes - definitely felt a difference, but I think it was the idea behind the words that I maybe reacted to. Curiously, 'constitutional rights' gave me a negative reaction. But then I thought about it and understand why.
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Post by paul on Jun 20, 2012 9:57:43 GMT 9.5
So how is it that the statement "constitutional rights" has so little power compared to "the geometry of words"?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 20, 2012 10:06:20 GMT 9.5
"the geometry of words" makes me feel creative, expansive, whereas "constitutional rights" makes me feel restricted. That's all I know.
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Post by paul on Jun 20, 2012 10:16:16 GMT 9.5
Try: geometry of constitution
&: constitutional geometry
Notice that the word geometry acts like an operator (modifier of reality) and is stronger when used first.
Compare: rights of words
with: geometry of words
Can we sense that geometry is a stronger operator than rights?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 9:22:14 GMT 9.5
Geometry - mandala escape path? Words - honor? And a flag has to be burned if it touches the ground? I didn't know that. Superstition? If I use Om Mani Padme Hum I am incurring future debt? www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/meaning-of-om-mani-padme-hung.htmNow that is a lovely geometry of words (I am finding this thread confusing but trying to understand it
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Post by paul on Aug 7, 2012 12:35:01 GMT 9.5
We did not get very far with this thread, the subject being rather difficult. Yet each genuine initiate necessarily is a word-smith, using words with intent to create, form and impulse.
Thus GM Hopkins:
I CAUGHT this morning morning’s minion, king- dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing, As a skate’s heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding Stirred for a bird,—the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!
Does the geometry of the words press itself upon the heart and ear? What perceptions do we have?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 7, 2012 12:44:11 GMT 9.5
... sounds like Hopkins is having a better time than I am. chained to an office desk ... mutter, mutter...
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Post by stepnwolf on Oct 1, 2012 22:58:35 GMT 9.5
But the Mark degree cautions us that while a word(s) may appear ill-formed according to one blueprint, it may be essential according to a higher one. It also gives the assurance that we are expected to act even when we have the incomplete plan, as did the Overseers. Time is on our side!
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Post by LorrB on Oct 2, 2012 12:59:26 GMT 9.5
Excellent point stepnwolf ... Amazing how these threads get the mind into gear. I guess flag bearer and flag carrier is the old cup half full or empty argument, the important thing was that the flag was moved, hopefully in the intended direction.
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Post by paul on Oct 3, 2012 8:25:39 GMT 9.5
>each person feels energy of words and things and strings leading back to the GA
Quite so.
I was attempting an analysis of how words interact and whether there was some geometric property of words that was significant in powerful statements.
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Post by stepnwolf on Oct 15, 2012 22:09:03 GMT 9.5
Fascinating discussion here: are we talking about the sound of a word, or its meaning. For example, gift in English is a present; however the word in German means poison. Does the geometry of gift change with the meaning/language? What of the powerful words in the Grimoires where the words seem to have no meaning? Does the geometry of our secret words change, if spoken incorrectly? All I seem to have is more questions.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2012 7:22:24 GMT 9.5
I think the words are just a tool. Words are used to focus the mind and depending what the mind focus' on so the vibrations in our personal part of the universal energy field is raised or lowered and we can feel the difference. Mind is the builder, words are one of the tools we use to build up or destroy.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2012 7:26:44 GMT 9.5
Funny thing happened when I was typing that... the saying "the geometry of words" popped into my mind and I saw a pyramid shape. Then the words "constitutional rights" popped into my mind and I saw an inverted pyramid shape.
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Post by paul on Oct 16, 2012 7:51:10 GMT 9.5
>Then the words "constitutional rights" popped into my mind and I saw an inverted pyramid shape
So some word expressions do have geometry!
Since geometry is energetically active there must be energy interactions that can be engineered between expressions
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2012 8:17:55 GMT 9.5
example ... ?
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Post by paul on Oct 16, 2012 10:10:28 GMT 9.5
> Words are used to focus the mind This leads to an interesting question: does the power of a word reside only in the mind? Or can a word have power of its own? For example does Moon have the same energy as Luna? The two words are quite different in my mind - the first relating to shape and the second to light (lumen). According to some traditions one of the characteristics of a sacred language is that when a word is sounded an enlightened person will have some experience of what is named by the word, e.g. having some taste of apple when the word for "apple" is heard. This is reflected in a Jewish tradition "of having a young boy lick honeycovered letters before learning the Aleph Bet," www.ou.org/torah/article/tzarich_iyun_milk_and_honey#.UHysumdbpk4It may also reflect in the Masonic tradition that the beehive is the source of sweetness and light.
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