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Post by jackjack on Jul 23, 2012 13:48:01 GMT 9.5
First of all, it is important to understand that miracles (healings, stopping storms, etc) can be performed by Jehovah and the hosts of hell. In Revelation, it even says that false signs are performed by the false prophet who is authorized to utilize the Dragon's power for that purpose. Also, if we read the ancient Egyptian texts, we see that the priests of Egypt had the ability to transform their rods into snakes as they were authorized to do so by the power of the great serpent (nowadays quite often referred to as a dragon).
Magic is simply the practice of calling upon entities outside of Jehovah for help; this violates the very first command which says you are to have no other gods before me. Now some might say "But I don't consider them to be God--they're angels. I'm just asking them for some help." Others might say, "Jack, you don't understand; those spirits and angels people call on are just symbols for different aspects of yourself--that's all. They aren't anything more or less. I'm merely practicing that power resident within me that GAOTU gave me and wants me to use. I'm a child of God after all, right?"
In Genesis 4, we read in the original Hebrew that men began to call on themselves as god; this eventually led them to encounter these beings who eventually destroyed the natural function of things and also part of the reason why God let the flood happen to begin with.
It's a direct affront to God's authority to worship other beings (including people and animals) and yourself as god.
And as for GAOTU...well, as I said elsewhere--he is comparable to OZPINHEAD.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 23, 2012 14:31:58 GMT 9.5
Lol... If you're looking for the meaning of the "star" from a masonic perspective, look no further then the G. Lol... You could be right, we are Generated, by the God of Light?
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Post by paul on Jul 23, 2012 14:35:12 GMT 9.5
> Magic is simply the practice of calling upon entities outside of Jehovah for help
That seems a rather theological definition. Some magi activities are done by the internal power of the practitioner.
>And as for GAOTU...well, as I said elsewhere--he is comparable to OZPINHEAD.
The title The Great Architect of the Universe is a functional name - like bus driver. You may dislike the name but the bus/universe driver still exists.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 23, 2012 14:39:09 GMT 9.5
And as for GAOTU...well, as I said elsewhere--he is comparable to OZPINHEAD. The Great Architect of the Universe's name is Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkel Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs? Oh my.
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Post by jackjack on Jul 23, 2012 14:47:05 GMT 9.5
Lorr; what did Pike say about the source of inspiration of all the magi from the ancient past?
Answer that question and you'll understand the OZPINHEAD analogy
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Post by LorrB on Jul 23, 2012 15:04:46 GMT 9.5
Can you tell me, I'm pushed for time at present. Would appreciate it.
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Post by jackjack on Jul 23, 2012 15:28:42 GMT 9.5
He said that they were all inspired by the same source of light; and if memory serves, he goes on to mention that this light source, while its character remained the same, was called by different names.
This one personage with a thousand different names is referred to as GAOTU in Freemasonry.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2012 10:28:22 GMT 9.5
>Exodus 33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live." The god of Israel also forbade images of himself - unlike other gods. Was there some aspect to the god that meant that those that saw his face would need to be killed - other than Moses who saw him as a friend. What might there have been about the god's appearance that was secret? Boulay asks: why were the gods so shy? www.bibliotecapleyades.net/serpents_dragons/boulay00e.htm
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Post by jackjack on Aug 15, 2012 1:14:51 GMT 9.5
I have a question for you Paul; what does the grace and mercy of God mean to you?
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Post by paul on Aug 15, 2012 7:06:03 GMT 9.5
That is an interesting question with several components:
- distinguishing gods from God - whether God is a particularly accurate concept being somewhat anthropomorphic - the experience of grace (as a flow of energy from on high) - mercy (as a dispensation from natural cause and effect - as you sow so shall you reap).
Then of course the word "mean" has several meanings and the term "you" is implicitly qualified by either "belief" or "experience".
So each morning as I wake, I lie in bed absorbing whatever Chi flows the rising sun brings across the surface of the Earth. Then I typically look at the Source of All (the creator of all the universes that I can see) and draw in a particular blue-white energy that I wish to accumulate.
Sometimes I get an energy (sometimes appearing as cubic) that I did not ask for. I think that is pretty close to what you would call the grace of God.
Generally I do not ask for mercy, being content to receive whatever I am entitled to, both comfortable and uncomfortable.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 15, 2012 9:42:17 GMT 9.5
Generally I do not ask for mercy, being content to receive whatever I am entitled to, both comfortable and uncomfortable. Steady as we go or "Thy Will, not mine, O Lord"
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2012 10:00:31 GMT 9.5
Reminds me of the Tower of Babel .. Reminds me of Royal Arch .. Reminds me of the danger of seeking the secrets of higher degrees before due time ..
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2012 10:01:42 GMT 9.5
oh ... and reminds me of the need for being properly prepared ..
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Post by paul on Aug 16, 2012 13:26:27 GMT 9.5
>So a 9th dimensional entity is basically GOD, as it is a force or complete will set!
Is/was the god of Abraham a 9th dimensional being? He was certainly pretty hungry.
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Post by Henka on Aug 16, 2012 22:03:23 GMT 9.5
Is/was the god of Abraham a 9th dimensional being? He was certainly pretty hungry. Yes, seems to have a taste for foreskins.
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Post by paul on Aug 19, 2012 11:00:06 GMT 9.5
Technically a 9th dimensional being should be able to control all of the Cosmic Physical plane (as it exists within its light body) and thereby be able to meet at least some of the current requirements of being an Ascended Master.
This seems difficult to match with the god of Abraham's fathers that seemed rather keen on eating large entities.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 20, 2012 7:40:16 GMT 9.5
But also remember that a 9th dimensional being would fry a normal fearful person and they would spontaneously combusted, or have a aneurism / heart explosion SO they have to lower or stall their energy or hold a hand over our eyes as we saw their face or were about to see it Royal Arch. The sun would fry us all up, what dimension is its Logos? I read that Jesus 'only' reach the Fifth Heaven, is heaven the same as dimension.
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Post by paul on Aug 20, 2012 7:57:44 GMT 9.5
>remember that a 9th dimensional being would fry a normal fearful person and they would spontaneously combusted I would hope that a 9th dimensional being could control its manifestation on dense levels - rather like an adult human keeps its emotions in check when dealing with a child and as an adept pulls in its aura to leave space for others to have their own experiences. That said, I recall a friend who said he was having a shower when a very powerful entity overlighted him. He said the energy became so intense that he thought he would die. He shouted: Knock it off guys! and the energy diminished and later stopped. Perhaps some of these "guys" are not so experienced in dealing with humans. >I read that Jesus 'only' reach the Fifth Heaven, is heaven the same as dimension As I understand the use of dimension: 3D for the physical world then add 1 per plane thus mental plane is the 5th dimension. For metaphysical operations it is better to use plane numbers as they directly describe the energy resonances - e.g. the 6th subplane of heart (4.6) directly resonates with the 2nd subplane of the emotional body (6.2) of a client and hence can provides a resonant path for the client to rise out of emotional trauma. As far as the Fifth Heaven, I would be inclined to look in the Qabalah for its meaning. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven I would however be wary of interpretations that confound the inner worlds and the outer heavens.
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Post by jackjack on Aug 23, 2012 3:36:35 GMT 9.5
The Dove from above works just fine, thank you.
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Post by paul on Aug 24, 2012 13:10:59 GMT 9.5
>same one who took John the Baptists, fathers voice
That is one I missed. Can you give a reference?
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