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Post by Henka on Apr 20, 2012 11:03:54 GMT 9.5
"In essence, the government has no monopoly on astronomical information, meaning it would be totally against the law to do such a thing." This is false. I've been told that it is against the law for amateur astronomers to publish their findings without it first being reported to the government. It would seem that the heavens is no longer public-domain. You have been wrongly informed. |
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Post by Henka on Apr 20, 2012 11:04:36 GMT 9.5
The OTO have been preparing for this event since its inception; pre-Crowley. First I've heard of that one. Source? |
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Post by blackdragon1 on Apr 23, 2012 2:01:04 GMT 9.5
Did you know that the number of the Sun is 666? A very interesting poposition Lorraine...please can you expantiate on this? I am very interested in knowing more |
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Post by Henka on Apr 23, 2012 7:51:35 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Apr 23, 2012 10:08:10 GMT 9.5
Good link, Henka, thanks for that. Follow throught on all the links provided Blackdragon. The Astrological Symbol of the Sun is...  |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 24, 2012 8:35:47 GMT 9.5
My ancestors lived beneath the sea
One night great grandfather visited me
Te'aroa was his name and out of the sea he came
He showed me he was three circles of light
I marvelled at this and realised my plight
I was a triangle stuck to a square
But grandfather said when I grew more aware
When my spirit grew strong as a tree
I would become just like he, the power of three. Deep in the ocean Deep inside How about Deep in space? In a book I was reading re magnetic energies I came across a reference to three solar suns (the power of three). See post below. |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 24, 2012 8:37:54 GMT 9.5
The position of the planets at the moment of birth represents the influence exerted upon one's personality from the three ruling solar suns. The combination of the radiation from each sun, at different frequencies, establishes one's very life.
At the moment of birth the first breath taken determines the pattern of the individual. According to astrologers that individual will be a fire, earth, air or water sign. That first energy charge determines or establishes the magnetic field and individuality of one but it is influenced in many ways by contact with others of different wave energies.
There are compatible wave energies, neutral wave energies and negative wave energies and those waves or energy currents act within our field similarly to those of mechanically generated electricity in electric appliances. Compatible or matching wave energies together generate two energy currents as required for magnetic fuel. It is the contact of the two energy currents which blends the positive and negative action of the human electric energy and charges the human magnetic field. www.sacred-texts.com/nth/kymf/kymf03.htm |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 24, 2012 8:40:56 GMT 9.5
(sorry henka ;D ) * He [Marduk in context] set fast the position of Nibiru to fix their [the stars] bounds.”
*”…let Nibiru be the holder of the crossing place of the heaven and of the earth.”
*…the red star which stands in the south after the gods of the night [the stars] have been finished, dividing the sky in half, this star is Nibiru, (i.e., Marduk).” (note it’s a red star, and this is often how the Ancients described Sirius)
* “Nibiru is his [marduk's in context] star, which he made appear in the heavens … The stars of heaven, let him [Nibiru] set their course; let him shepherd all the gods like sheep.”
What can be seen clearly here is that the term nibiru is being used to describe a star, that this star sets the course of the other stars, that is to say that it is the source of their precession, and that it is the crossing point.
It is my supposition that Nibiru is referred to as a “crossing point” because when the Sun passed apastron and began its opposite revolution, Sirius would cross the sky. Not only did this crossing of Sirius mark the turning point in the Sun’s orbit, but also the turning point in the Yuga cycles.
The new Sun-Sirius system model satisfies the observational behavior of Sirius and the constellations of the zodiac as they regress throughout the great cycle of 26,000 years. There is no need to introduce a “wobble” in the Earth’s axis, induced by the action of 9 other celestial bodies — a theory which is just a relic from a time when the motion of the Solar System was not yet conceived.
It would be sagacious not to place Sirius at the center of the Solar System, for in a fractal system there is no true center. The fractal nature of the Universe engenders its self-arrangement, or more apropos, the Universe is a holofractal graphic system [15]. Therefore there are many nested orbital interactions, going out as far as the local cluster of galaxies, which themselves have a focal point.
This is nothing new. Previous civilizations understood celestial mechanics at an advanced level, and the mathematical precision of their astronomical observations is a testament to this [16]. The reason why the Egyptians and many other civilizations of that era used Sirius as their marker for the passage of time is because they picked the most stable object as their reference point.
We choose the Sun as our reference point, and this is obviously highly inaccurate. Every 4 years a day has to be added to keep accurate time. But even Sirius was not accurate enough for the “Keeper’s of Time”, the Mayans. With their remarkably advanced astronomy they quickly detected the inaccuracies in using Sirius as a marker for the passage of time, and switched to an even more accurate cycle involving the Pleiades. There is however an even more stable reference point than the Pleiades and that is the Galactic center, which from the perspective of our galaxy is the ultimate center of rotation.
And indeed the Mayan’s chose the Galactic Center as a reference point to mark the passage of time, which is evident as the Mayan Long Count ends with the galactic alignment of the Solar System on December 21st 2012. Therefore, the idea that the Earth orbits the Sun, or that the Sun orbits Sirius, or that Sirius orbits Alcyone and that Alcyone orbits the Galactic Nucleus, is not revolutionary — it’s just a rediscovery of lost knowledge.
by William Brown alternatenewsmedia2012.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/the-suns-astral-companion-a-model-for-the-sun-sirius-system/ |
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Post by paul on Apr 24, 2012 9:03:32 GMT 9.5
... Deep in the ocean Deep inside How about Deep in space?.... The difficulty of course is in applying that reading to the many similar texts in native traditions around the world - some of which provide much more detail. E.g. Ea had his palace in the underworld freshwater ocean. And the Annedotus came out from the sea each dawn to teach the Greeks and went back at dusk - and if I recall correctly, did not eat while on land. Nevertheless the Royal Ark Mariners do steer the ark of the Earth to its appointed place. |
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 11:00:17 GMT 9.5
(sorry henka ;D ) * He [Marduk in context] set fast the position of Nibiru to fix their [the stars] bounds.”
*”…let Nibiru be the holder of the crossing place of the heaven and of the earth.”
*…the red star which stands in the south after the gods of the night [the stars] have been finished, dividing the sky in half, this star is Nibiru, (i.e., Marduk).” (note it’s a red star, and this is often how the Ancients described Sirius)
* “Nibiru is his [marduk's in context] star, which he made appear in the heavens … The stars of heaven, let him [Nibiru] set their course; let him shepherd all the gods like sheep.”
What can be seen clearly here is that the term nibiru is being used to describe a star, that this star sets the course of the other stars, that is to say that it is the source of their precession, and that it is the crossing point.
It is my supposition that Nibiru is referred to as a “crossing point” because when the Sun passed apastron and began its opposite revolution, Sirius would cross the sky. Not only did this crossing of Sirius mark the turning point in the Sun’s orbit, but also the turning point in the Yuga cycles.
The new Sun-Sirius system model satisfies the observational behavior of Sirius and the constellations of the zodiac as they regress throughout the great cycle of 26,000 years. There is no need to introduce a “wobble” in the Earth’s axis, induced by the action of 9 other celestial bodies — a theory which is just a relic from a time when the motion of the Solar System was not yet conceived.
It would be sagacious not to place Sirius at the center of the Solar System, for in a fractal system there is no true center. The fractal nature of the Universe engenders its self-arrangement, or more apropos, the Universe is a holofractal graphic system [15]. Therefore there are many nested orbital interactions, going out as far as the local cluster of galaxies, which themselves have a focal point.
This is nothing new. Previous civilizations understood celestial mechanics at an advanced level, and the mathematical precision of their astronomical observations is a testament to this [16]. The reason why the Egyptians and many other civilizations of that era used Sirius as their marker for the passage of time is because they picked the most stable object as their reference point.
We choose the Sun as our reference point, and this is obviously highly inaccurate. Every 4 years a day has to be added to keep accurate time. But even Sirius was not accurate enough for the “Keeper’s of Time”, the Mayans. With their remarkably advanced astronomy they quickly detected the inaccuracies in using Sirius as a marker for the passage of time, and switched to an even more accurate cycle involving the Pleiades. There is however an even more stable reference point than the Pleiades and that is the Galactic center, which from the perspective of our galaxy is the ultimate center of rotation.
And indeed the Mayan’s chose the Galactic Center as a reference point to mark the passage of time, which is evident as the Mayan Long Count ends with the galactic alignment of the Solar System on December 21st 2012. Therefore, the idea that the Earth orbits the Sun, or that the Sun orbits Sirius, or that Sirius orbits Alcyone and that Alcyone orbits the Galactic Nucleus, is not revolutionary — it’s just a rediscovery of lost knowledge.
by William Brown alternatenewsmedia2012.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/the-suns-astral-companion-a-model-for-the-sun-sirius-system/Sorry Lorr, the sun rotates around the galactic center, not another star. The site linked to is full of misinformation and pseudoscience. It even repeats the nonsense that The Dogon tribe introduced Sirius B to the west, when we now know that it was inserted into their mythology by the very fellow who was studying them. |
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 11:04:55 GMT 9.5
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 11:17:09 GMT 9.5
The position of the planets at the moment of birth represents the influence exerted upon one's personality from the three ruling solar suns. The combination of the radiation from each sun, at different frequencies, establishes one's very life.
At the moment of birth the first breath taken determines the pattern of the individual. According to astrologers that individual will be a fire, earth, air or water sign. That first energy charge determines or establishes the magnetic field and individuality of one but it is influenced in many ways by contact with others of different wave energies.
There are compatible wave energies, neutral wave energies and negative wave energies and those waves or energy currents act within our field similarly to those of mechanically generated electricity in electric appliances. Compatible or matching wave energies together generate two energy currents as required for magnetic fuel. It is the contact of the two energy currents which blends the positive and negative action of the human electric energy and charges the human magnetic field. www.sacred-texts.com/nth/kymf/kymf03.htm, published in 1947? Really? LOL ;D |
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 11:30:24 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Apr 24, 2012 11:48:16 GMT 9.5
For those interested, the Whittaker paper of 1904 established the theoretical basis for the interaction of the aether (life force) with electromagnetic fields. www.hyiq.org/Library/E.T.Whittaker-1904.pdf"Whittaker 1904 showed that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a "scalar potential interferometer" where the potential beams intersect at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse EM fields and energy appear." (aka Tesla howitzer) "this means that it's possible to produce energetic changes in a distant system at a distant place, without transmitting energy "through space" in the normal sense. You transmit "around" space, so to speak, and directly in time or through a higher dimension, depending on the model you're using to understand this. Further, the speed of the internal EM energy transmission is not limited to the speed of light."" "We have a new weapon, just within the portfolio of our scientists, so to speak,which is so powerful that, if unrestrainedly used, it could wipe out all life on earth.It is a fantastic weapon." Khrushchev, to the Presidium, Jan. 1960 The resultant technology has not only been weaponised but is also applicable to intracellular healing. This perhaps is an easier topic than the blessings of the deep. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Apr 24, 2012 14:40:33 GMT 9.5
the nonsense that The Dogon tribe introduced Sirius B to the west, when we now know that it was inserted into their mythology by the very fellow who was studying them. Henka do you have agood source for this as that Dogon book impresssed me, and I want to check it out in case I have been mislead. |
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Post by paul on Apr 24, 2012 14:51:53 GMT 9.5
Stewart I think you might find that the debunking is rather low on dimensionality of data compared with the book: "Was Griaule told by his informants what he wanted to believe; did he misinterpret the Dogon responses to his questions? Either way, the original purity of the Dogon-Sirius story is itself a myth as it is highly likely that Griaule contaminated their knowledge with his own." www.philipcoppens.com/dogonshame.htmlProof for some. Similarly for Castaneda, a key piece of evidence is that some library books borrowed on his account were returned when he said he was in the field. Devastating. Personally I am more interested in what is profound about books. For many readers the Dogon account gave them an entirely new way of considering humanity's place in the cosmos. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Apr 24, 2012 17:12:03 GMT 9.5
For many readers the Dogon account gave them an entirely new way of considering humanity's place in the cosmos. Indeed. Some thoughts:- 1. Some people like to debunk everything that does not accord with their worldview. Remember there was a time you would be imprisoned/tortured for believing in gravity. 2. Mainstream science is full of paradigms, which are just invented best guess models, that only get turned over when new information comes to light or when a chap with an enormous ego/reputation dies. 3. It is possible to argue that a lot of my development has been based on pseudo stuff, yet it has taken me to a place that as far back as 2004 a surgeon who is a mason was publicly claiming on the masonic internet that I should be leading the craft (please no one get their knickers in a twist over this, it is ancient history, it is still evidincable by typing my name and freemasonry into google - 1st or 2nd page a few days ago, mfol (a thread on who was I in a previous life). I am "a" (I had the moderators remove my name when I wanted to sever my energy connection with the forum after the poor behaviour of some masons). The surgeon I have personally met (hi if you are here  . Anyhow my point is not my own ego, but that even if my development has been based on pseudo this and that, it took me to a place 8 years ago that some did feel that I would be good leading the craft (there were other masons as well), which is not a bad place for pseudo this or that to take you in some popular opinion. So what some see as pseudo can help people develop and inspire people to better things. Hope that makes some sort of sense. A bit like ufos it matters not one iota whether they are real or not, the fact is that, as Paul has suggested, such things can and do help some people progress in understanding the place of humanity beyond what they have been told to believe. And thinking is what leads to human evolution. Watching the practical esoterics play out in modern life really is fascinating - it ain't just ancient knowledge, it is living breathing around us all today. |
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 22:22:34 GMT 9.5
So, in other words, facts don't really matter, it's how you feel about it that really does? There is something fundamentally wrong with that premise. Think about it.
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Post by Henka on Apr 24, 2012 22:26:00 GMT 9.5
 That quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father,
throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphanLeo Rosten (defining "Chutzpah") |
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Post by stewartedwards on Apr 25, 2012 2:06:08 GMT 9.5
So, in other words, facts don't really matter, it's how you feel about it that really does? There is something fundamentally wrong with that premise. Think about it. Sorry henka but I have thought about it and facts do matter. You may be surprised to know that I hold a couple of degrees, including some science courses, and hold professional and technical qualifications. I just dont exclude what many people find difficult, for if we did we would still be torturing people for believing in gravity - it doesn't exist and is heresy didn't you know. I understand that currently research into things like quantum dots is overturning generations of physics facts, so it is an ongoing process. Human evolution can only take place when you can think the unthinkable. |
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. Anyhow my point is not my own ego, but that even if my development has been based on pseudo this and that, it took me to a place 8 years ago that some did feel that I would be good leading the craft (there were other masons as well), which is not a bad place for pseudo this or that to take you in some popular opinion. So what some see as pseudo can help people develop and inspire people to better things. Hope that makes some sort of sense.