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Post by paul on May 22, 2012 10:25:58 GMT 9.5
The structure of existence is such that the 7-49 structure is repeated at indefinitely small and large scales - just like a fractal. As above so below.
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Post by cwhite on May 22, 2012 10:27:00 GMT 9.5
49 x 2= 108!
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Post by paul on May 23, 2012 9:07:59 GMT 9.5
An interesting post but not too easily understood.
- it would be useful to have a bit more detail on the "rock operators" e.g. who, what, how, why, when - it is not clear to me that the Holy of Holies was connected to a planetary energy system. The danger was from the Ark of the Covenant and that seems to me to have been a device with localised operations - would you like to expand on "monotheism control techniques"? - and what are "Tertiary methods"? - "the Egypt Pyramids were thought to bleed off this energy difference" any links for this? - "Hebrews were claimed to have exported part of this technology for personal" e.g. the qabalah? - "opened up the ascension path wider for all humans to be able to ascend" - the qabalah can do that, but is a bit outdated now - "hear the call of personal emotion conquest" I suspect that the leading part of the race is interested in managing the mental processes too.
Cheers
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Post by LorrB on May 23, 2012 9:28:14 GMT 9.5
So matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed .. just changed (in the twinkling of an Eye ) - a new stone with a new name?
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Post by LorrB on May 23, 2012 9:41:28 GMT 9.5
So evil does not exist, it is merely a challenge point for someone to attempt to answer, ignore or become engulfed inside of. Or any combination we from free will choose. That is pretty much the same (temporary?) conclusion I have arrived at foxfires. ...Which doesn't make things any easier
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Post by paul on May 23, 2012 10:16:44 GMT 9.5
If we take a Tsimtsum (out-breath/in-breath) view of Creation, then dark is not evil being the complement to light.
It is however possible for out-breath activities to contaminate in-breath activities and vice versa. This is counter to the structure of Creation and might reasonably be called evil.
For example, a baby has a strong dark (out-breath) energy used to form a separated existence (body) and the energy makes the baby ruthless in demanding what is needed.
As the child grows it needs to balance the dark with the light and we teach it how to share and cooperate. If the dark energy remains too strong we refer to a spoiled child.
If the dark energy remains too strong in the adult it is likely to attract and be host to similar imbalances on a cosmic level. This looks pretty nasty and can reasonably be called evil.
Similarly of course excessive light can produce events that can be called evil e.g. devotees who are so giving that they destroy their own health in supporting their guru's organisation.
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Post by LorrB on May 24, 2012 9:58:23 GMT 9.5
..... Jesus responded then in your death will you face, learn and release ..... Self Judgement Day. Better the devil we know
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Post by paul on May 25, 2012 9:41:11 GMT 9.5
>what they spoke was executed >powers and principalities It seems to me that you were observing angels. Angels (higher devas) are considered to drive the lower devas (nature spirits) by voice. The lower devas are known as The Army of the Voice. www.sacred-texts.com/eso/ihas/ihas22.htm>the snakes that were were encoded to fear correlate to our fear of death, and we can not conquer the kundalini as long as we pack fear. In the ancient history of humanity there were traumatic times with snake-like entities. The trauma remains with humanity in its general fear of snakes and crawling entities. Fear certainly needs to be resolved progressively. Most humans have fear on physical, emotional and mental levels. >people have been sort of hood winked through agreement to not go there The human race does not exist in metaphysical isolation. Entities within the greater system have done deals and also intervened and the human race must work its way through the resultant difficulties. >anyone can access Prime Creator God force without help They can certainly call for it without help, but calling within a narrow belief system can be a problem. >people who ascend are supposed to when the understand the process better, to alter the creatures we encounter on the exits guarding earth The classic is the Dweller on the Threshold. www.esoteric-philosophy.net/dweller.html
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Post by LorrB on May 25, 2012 10:18:13 GMT 9.5
If I seemed to contradict the information posed, this is not supposed to be empirical info, but for us to look at things from the heart, as the heart can not lie to us The Centre from which we cannot err. Having read the previous two posts, all I can say is 'oh - wow' - all lower case because I am in awe. I know that what you both say is true. It is nice to see it written. Thought, it takes courage for most of us to say things like that, but it only takes courage if we have fear to start with. Funny that I started a snake gallery just yesterday. Nice to see that there are those that keep the world in balance did we ever doubt it.
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Post by paul on May 26, 2012 7:28:04 GMT 9.5
>telling people what to do is an override feature upon free will, and the powers that be perform cleanup in my wake when I do this.
Do those powers clean up behind every person who tells other people what to do?
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Post by paul on May 26, 2012 8:26:57 GMT 9.5
>before a persons words become empowering, they have to have a dedication of principle to not do certain things un-beneficial to others.
One of the preconditions to the genuine secrets of a Master Mason.
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Post by paul on May 26, 2012 8:29:31 GMT 9.5
>As far as Maya, and the feminine energy of earth, she sort of keeps tabs on how we treat others
This is depicted semi-symbolically as the Recording Angel or the Lords of Karma. Mal-formed actions remain in the body of the Logos as points of tension and discomfort until resolved by various means.
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Post by LorrB on May 26, 2012 17:27:11 GMT 9.5
>telling people what to do is an override feature upon free will, and the powers that be perform cleanup in my wake when I do this. Do those powers clean up behind every person who tells other people what to do? I think no, It has to do with how resolute a person is, I think generally this is normal behavior, as it depends on the level of oath we are under and to whom we answer. But before humanity gets empowered to instantly manifest things into being real and instantly done, some serious work needs to be done. So before a persons words become empowering, they have to have a dedication of principal to not do certain things un-beneficial to others. The ones who are not resolute as far as I know, have been locked out of the power after a few word mishaps, I feel their words become dimensionally shallow an carry smaller weight. I know this is out there, in left field, but still what I feel as part of the playing field Mark Degree?
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Post by paul on May 27, 2012 7:21:49 GMT 9.5
As time goes by I tend to be less directly interventionist on a metaphysical level too and work more with the person's intent. Let them intend the necessary changes and see whether any help is required later.
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Post by stewartedwards on May 27, 2012 17:52:44 GMT 9.5
When helping never forget the law of unintended consequences.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 1, 2012 10:03:32 GMT 9.5
Much must remain esoteric and veiled. The risks of too much knowledge are far greater than the menace of too little. With knowledge comes responsibility and power
... rather like giving a new young male driver a high powered sports car? These words had me thinking about the negative sides of first world and third world countries. Both can produce horrific results by actions taken, but it could be argued that the more highly educated/knowledgeable (?) can cause the most damage. Occultists are well known to be tipped over the edge by pushing things a tad too far. Good post, thought provoking. Reminds one of the significance of the S... of S...
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Post by LorrB on Jun 18, 2012 9:52:43 GMT 9.5
My attention has been refocused onto a small part of the above illustration - the centre bit from the VSL down to the smoking urn. Coincidence / Serendipity ..and Leedskalnin.. (see S & C/Vortex thread in youtube section). The Law (VSL) Two Pillars (duality) Square and Compasses (twin opposing vortices) Square and Compasses (spirit/force/energy to matter and back again) G = Generation, of spirit to matter and matter to spirit Vaporous urn = same message. The Cross (Horizontal arm = matter, Vertical arm = spirit or life force) That particular form of cross denotes centripetal force. Centripetal force = spirit contained ... and so it goes ... (Fear not for the dead for all goes well with them.)
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Post by choochoo808 on Jun 18, 2012 23:49:47 GMT 9.5
before humanity gets empowered to instantly manifest things into being real and instantly done, some serious work needs to be done. What kinds of things can be manifested? What is the work - Masonic?
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Post by paul on Jun 19, 2012 7:58:01 GMT 9.5
>What kinds of things can be manifested?
Years ago I met a teenager who said that nature spirits worked with him to manifest objects. He had to visualise and intend and they would assist in the manifestation.
He said that if he mis-visualised a garden fork then it would manifest physically malformed and he would send it back and try again.
He said the nature spirits had stopped helping him.
When I talked to him about spiritual matters he knew all about Pan and nothing about the Christ energies - his education in such matters being supplied through the nature spirits.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 19, 2012 8:37:29 GMT 9.5
Every faucet of life is designed to lead us away from this point, as this is not a simple or easy task to look within and it said as similar to being blindfolded as we pass the insanity points, and much help is needed for safe crossing omg, I am looking at 'a fall of water' in an entirely new light foxfires, have I told you lately how much I enjoy your posts?!
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