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Post by azaziel on Nov 11, 2011 19:59:21 GMT 9.5
Book of Enoch
Chapter 6
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations(*) 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, (**) because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
(*) "Having confessed your guilt, you are sentenced to suffer severally, according to the imprecations from your on mouths."
(**) Behold! how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! It is like the precious ointment (?) upon the head, that ran down the beard, even Aaron's beard, that went down to the skirts of his garment; As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion;
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Post by paul on Nov 12, 2011 5:15:00 GMT 9.5
I would like to be able to relate Semjaza to Egyptian or Hindu mythology - to triangulate the identity.
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Post by azaziel on Nov 12, 2011 5:17:35 GMT 9.5
I would like to be able to relate Semjaza to Egyptian or Hindu mythology - to triangulate the identity. Then, why don't you The bible is taken from other sources, it is not original, maybe a lose reading of the first sumerian texts will provide a lead for you
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Post by paul on May 29, 2012 8:30:46 GMT 9.5
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Post by Henka on May 29, 2012 10:00:25 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on May 29, 2012 10:44:52 GMT 9.5
In I Remember Lemuria the gods go underground (underworld) to avoid the aging sun that reduces their lifespan - hence the water of life and bread of life required by the Sumerian gods.
Out of the sunlight the gods continue to grow becoming titanic. The older gods therefore are taller so the most senior god is the most high.
The book itself is a dramatisation of data provided by Shaver. The editor dramatised it to provide more interest to the readers. Some of the footnotes are intriguing being the original statements by Shaver.
As far as I recall, following its publication in Amazing Stories, the editor said he was getting 10 000 letters a month saying that it was not fiction.
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Post by paul on May 29, 2012 10:49:10 GMT 9.5
It is perhaps worth noting that there are multiple sources for odd things in the sky. "more things in heaven and earth....."
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Post by LorrB on May 29, 2012 15:55:09 GMT 9.5
Out of the sunlight the gods continue to grow becoming titanic. The older gods therefore are taller so the most senior god is the most high. Has this anything to do with Freemasonry? Is Freemasonry just relating a lost history or does it have a more unique purpose?
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Post by LorrB on May 29, 2012 15:57:02 GMT 9.5
BIBLICAL NAMES OF GIANTS
In chapter 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples: "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Genesis 15:19-21; compare Exodus 3:8,17; 23:23. Deuteronomy 7; 20:17. Joshua 12:8). These were to be cut off, and driven out, and utterly destroyed (Deuteronomy 20:17. Joshua 3:10). But Israel failed in this (Joshua 13:13; 15:63; 16:10; 17:18. Judges 1: 19,20,28,29,30-36; 2:1-5; 3:1-7);
As to their other names, they were called Anakim, from one Anak which came of the Nephilim (Numbers 13:22,33), and Rephaim, from Rapha, another notable one among them. From Deuteronomy 2:10, they were known by some as Emim, and Horim, and Zamzummim (verse 20,21) and Avim, etc.
ANAK (a' nak) HEBREW: ANAQ
A race of giants called the Anakim traced their ancestry to Anak, the son of the Canaanite Arba, founder of Kiriath-Arba (the city later known as Hebron). *Hebron, the land Caleb received for his inheritance, is the focus of contemporary land conflict between Palestinians and Jews, and is much in the news Anak's descendants were conquered and displaced by Caleb, one of the scouts whom Moses had sent decades earlier to spy out the land of Canaan. Giants like the Anakim were also known as Nephilim, thought to be superhuman progeny of the sons of God and the daughters on men cited in Genesis 6:4.
{E2 Dictionary of Biblical People}
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Post by LorrB on May 29, 2012 16:03:50 GMT 9.5
RULING GODS DURING THIS TIME
These creatures could speak the local language and were friendly. They were called "Nommo" meaning "the monitors" and their home planet was in the Sirius system orbiting Emme Ya. The Nommo stayed on Earth for some time teaching. They are described as having arms and legs but also a fish tail, that they breathed through 2 holes in their back, had a slimy skin, and pointed teeth. These holes however could have been some artificial breathing apparatise that they needed due to the fact that they could not breath our air.
Dagon was the fish-god of the Philistines. Dagon was the founder of Sumarian, Babylonian, and Chinese civilizations. It was recorded by the ancient Greeks that the Babylonian civilization had been founded long before the great flood by amphibious beings called Oannes, Musari, or Annedoti. The latter 2 names mean "abominations" and "repulsive ones". Despite the names these rulers were greatly loved and credited with providing us with all knowledge and learning and the founding of civilizations.
The monitorial duties of the Nommo may have included helping to save Noah by providing him with his Ark. The book of Enoch says the ark was built by the Angels or "watchers". Some of these Watchers "fell to earth" (came from the sky ) and became the gods of the olden times - best known to us from the Greek legends and the Indian vedas. Fish tails and Mitres Did some shield their eyes rather than look upon the abominable and repulsive looking ones - who were well loved and respected btw, despite their looks. Watchers we are all familiar with. www.burlingtonnews.net/giants.html
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Post by LorrB on May 29, 2012 16:05:09 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on May 29, 2012 16:15:12 GMT 9.5
..especially that of Thutmoses III and Akhenaten.
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Post by paul on May 29, 2012 20:10:04 GMT 9.5
Out of the sunlight the gods continue to grow becoming titanic. The older gods therefore are taller so the most senior god is the most high. Has this anything to do with Freemasonry? Is Freemasonry just relating a lost history or does it have a more unique purpose? So is the Most High an ongoing influence in Masonry?
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Post by cwhite on May 29, 2012 23:06:21 GMT 9.5
Dagon was the founder of Sumarian, Babylonian, and Chinese civilizations. So the Dagon Nommo predates the Sumerian Nammu?
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Post by Henka on May 29, 2012 23:35:16 GMT 9.5
It is perhaps worth noting that there are multiple sources for odd things in the sky. "more things in heaven and earth....." Odd things in the sky doesn't mean that they are caused by alien frog-gods from Sirius.
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Post by paul on May 30, 2012 7:50:42 GMT 9.5
... It is also notable that Sara, was Abraham's wife and half sister... This was a common practice amongst the Egyptian pharaohs and it seems also to have been practiced by the Sumerian gods. I suspect that it reflects a group attempting to retain their genetics by not breeding with outsiders.
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Post by paul on May 30, 2012 7:55:20 GMT 9.5
.... Odd things in the sky doesn't mean that they are caused by alien frog-gods from Sirius. You could be right about no frog gods. Google only finds trivial links for "frog gods" but of course 1000 times more hits for "sirius gods"
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Post by Henka on May 30, 2012 8:26:53 GMT 9.5
.... Odd things in the sky doesn't mean that they are caused by alien frog-gods from Sirius. You could be right about no frog gods. Google only finds trivial links for "frog gods" but of course 1000 times more hits for "sirius gods" As you probably know, it is a play on "amphibian." Which your hypothetical aquatic gods from Sirius are purported to be, seeing as how they live both on land and sea, in addition to being very tall. One wonders if they play basketball as well?
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Post by paul on May 30, 2012 8:36:24 GMT 9.5
...hypothetical aquatic gods .... As you must know aquatic gods appear in legends all over the world. Christianity uses a fish as a symbol of its saviour. I find it odd that humans across the world believe in aquatic saviours. Even the Messiah was named for annointing with the fat of the messeh (crocodile) One of my friends actually saw one a short distance offshore at a local beach. When I asked her she said it looked just like:
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Post by LorrB on May 30, 2012 8:46:30 GMT 9.5
It is perhaps worth noting that there are multiple sources for odd things in the sky. "more things in heaven and earth....." Odd things in the sky doesn't mean that they are caused by alien frog-gods from Sirius. ... and heaven does not mean sky.
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