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Post by paul on Sept 22, 2011 5:19:38 GMT 9.5
Or perhaps you read your own interpretation into what I wrote
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Post by tamrin on Sept 22, 2011 20:03:46 GMT 9.5
Or perhaps you read your own interpretation into what I wrote As I recall, from our discussions elsewhere, you referred to unicorn fossils and to Chinese emperors having unicorns as pets!? Even this time around, the effort in getting you to deny belief in the physical existence of unicorns was like that of pulling teeth - Have you seen the tooth fairy lately?
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Post by paul on Sept 22, 2011 20:11:11 GMT 9.5
.. As I recall, from our discussions elsewhere, you referred to unicorn fossils and to Chinese emperors having unicorns as pets!?... Your recollection is certainly better than mine
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 8:57:37 GMT 9.5
The Identity of the Unicorn
The unicorn is mentioned 9 times in the Bible ...
Most modern versions of the Bible identify the unicorn as a wild ox. However, the biblical descriptions do not fit a wild ox. The characteristics of the unicorn are as follows:
www.learnthebible.org/the-identity-of-the-unicorn.html They weigh about 4,500 pounds, can run at over 20 miles an hour; they have one large horn on the snout and their scientific name is Rhinoceros UNICORNIS.
www.learnthebible.org/unicorns-in-the-bible.html Love Google!
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 9:04:59 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 9:07:33 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 9:17:37 GMT 9.5
The symbolism of the Ox and the Staff might well be pictured as source of the Unicorn story. Ancient Hebrew Word Meanings God ~ el/elo'ah By Jeff A. Benner
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There are two Hebrew words commonly translated as God, el and elo'ah. When reading the Bible it is better to have an Ancient Hebrew perception of God rather than our modern western view. The word el was originally written with two pictographic letters, one being an ox head and the other a shepherd staff. The ox represented strength and the staff of the shepherd represented authority. First, the Ancient Hebrews saw God as the strong one of authority. The shepherd staff was also understood as a staff on the shoulders, a yoke. Secondly, the Ancient Hebrews saw God as the ox in the yoke. When plowing a field two oxen were placed in a yoke, one was the older and more experienced and the other the younger and less experienced and the younger would learn from the older. The Hebrews saw God as the older experienced ox and they as the younger who learns from him. The plural form of elo'ah is elohiym and is often translated as God. While English plurals only identify quantity, as in more than one, the Hebrew plural can identify quantity as well as quality. Something that is of great size or stature can be written in the plural form and in this case, God, as the great strength and authority is frequently written in the plural form elohiym. The two letters in these Hebrew words are the ox head representing strength and the shepherd staff representing authority. Combined they mean "the strong authority" as well as "the ox with a staff" (a yoke is understood as a staff on the shoulders). www.ancient-hebrew.org/27_god.html
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 9:21:28 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Sept 23, 2011 9:35:04 GMT 9.5
Interestingly both Norse and Sumerian gods are depicted with helmets or headdresses with ox-like horns. Here is Enki with a hat with horns at the rim and smaller horn-like projections above He is near to a fall of water.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 23, 2011 9:36:11 GMT 9.5
The Identity of the Unicorn
The unicorn is mentioned 9 times in the Bible ...
Most modern versions of the Bible identify the unicorn as a wild ox. However, the biblical descriptions do not fit a wild ox. The characteristics of the unicorn are as follows:
www.learnthebible.org/the-identity-of-the-unicorn.html They weigh about 4,500 pounds, can run at over 20 miles an hour; they have one large horn on the snout and their scientific name is Rhinoceros UNICORNIS.
www.learnthebible.org/unicorns-in-the-bible.html Love Google! So, are YOU now asserting the physical existance of unicorns? From elsewhere: In any case aurochs (wild bulls) differed considerably in attributes from medieval depictions of unicorns. Of the four attributes mentioned in your link, three match the auroch, strong, wild and dangerous. The fourth, having a name meaning one-horned, is true only in translation NOT in the original Hebrew.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 23, 2011 9:49:02 GMT 9.5
So, are YOU now asserting the physical existance of unicorns? What gave you that idea? I merely presented the thoughts of other learned people re unicorns. Personally, I got most from the Ox and the Staff story, re God/s. Oddly enough, I came by it accidentally. Often happens when I am looking for answers. And if you take the time to read that link you might see that it will keep both you and Paul happy A miracle!
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Post by tamrin on Sept 23, 2011 9:58:49 GMT 9.5
I AM surprised.
While I was preparing my last post, reponding to your unicorn links, you had posted your subsequent wild bull links (to me it seems like you are wanting to have your cake and to eat it too).
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Post by cwhite on Sept 24, 2011 0:55:56 GMT 9.5
So ham I, Tamrin. j/k From what little I know of unicorns, they are drawn to a certain type of people who exude a certain kind of energy. So, if you have not encountered them, it could be because the a fore mentioned explanation. "You can catch more flys with honey, than with vinegar."
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Post by paul on Sept 24, 2011 6:47:21 GMT 9.5
"I met my first unicorn when I was sitting on the lawn with my laptop on my knee. A beautiful white presence appeared by my side and I was amazed to realize it was a unicorn. It gave me information about the unicorn realms and told me that they are looking for people of high energy who want to help the world. They will connect to them and help them." www.dianacooper.com/unicorns/index.php
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Post by tamrin on Sept 25, 2011 10:35:47 GMT 9.5
Diana Cooper seems to be doing pretty good for herself out of this racket
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Post by tamrin on Sept 25, 2011 10:41:16 GMT 9.5
"You can catch more flys with honey, than with vinegar." Like most flies, those here seem to prefer bull...
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Post by LorrB on Sept 26, 2011 11:29:18 GMT 9.5
You're the only one here with wings, and as you say, you think we are full of the proverbial.
The rest of us prefer honey, we must be busy little bees.
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Post by paul on Sept 26, 2011 11:34:32 GMT 9.5
..... Diana Cooper seems to be doing pretty good for herself out of this racket Is this an attack on her character?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 17:42:01 GMT 9.5
You're the only one here with wings, and as you say, you think we are full of the proverbial. The rest of us prefer honey, we must be busy little bees. I see it is not the flying pig swallowing the bull here.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 26, 2011 21:21:52 GMT 9.5
..... Diana Cooper seems to be doing pretty good for herself out of this racket Is this an attack on her character? It is more of an invitation to others to consider possible motives and draw their own conclusions.
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