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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 12:57:59 GMT 9.5
Perhaps Dodgson was speaking from experience when he spoke of the body filling up the whole room and leaving no space for learning. And who here is claiming to be in privileged possession of special knowledge?
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Post by paul on Aug 22, 2011 13:28:08 GMT 9.5
Perhaps Dodgson had acquired knowledge by experience. I am not sure how privileged that would be. I rather think that any human with effort can experience many of the mysteries of human existence.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 14:37:29 GMT 9.5
Dodgson later said of The Hunting of the Snark, I'm very much afraid I didn't mean anything but nonsense!" I expect he would have said the same in this case. Back to my earlier question: Certainly it was/is important for the ancient gods who were dying on this planet (probably due to the aging Sun). Certainly!?
OK, I'm calling B.S. on this. Come up with some extraordinary proof for this extraordinary assertion.
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Post by paul on Aug 22, 2011 15:12:56 GMT 9.5
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 15:51:49 GMT 9.5
Please be specific.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 15:53:50 GMT 9.5
Please, Please, don't rely on Sitchin.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 15:57:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Aug 22, 2011 16:30:48 GMT 9.5
Please, Please, don't rely on Sitchin. If you click on the link you will find the tablets were translated by Maureen Kovacs. Not a sitchin in sight. If the information contained on the oldest tablets so far discovered are in error then we can blame the author of the tablets. But in all seriousness, how would we know... after such a long time. The tablets mention a great flood, the Bible and other ancient documents mention a great flood, maybe there was a great flood... etc etc
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Post by tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 17:41:59 GMT 9.5
Please, Please, don't rely on Sitchin. If you click on the link you will find the tablets were translated by Maureen Kovacs. Not a sitchin in sight. I had clicked on the link: I was wary of his next move, after being asked to be specific.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 17:47:09 GMT 9.5
The tablets mention a great flood, the Bible and other ancient documents mention a great flood, maybe there was a great flood... etc etc Everywhere there have been vast, destructive floods which have become part of folklore, growing in the telling and retelling to become great floods of universal extent.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 22, 2011 17:54:48 GMT 9.5
As in when we have enriched/evolved/expanded our Being to such an extent that we encompass all knowledge and arrive at a state of Knowingness?
Some that die and come back experience a state of being like this, they cannot remember the detail upon returning to the body however. From my desk calendar for this week: Some people think they are in tune with the infinite when they are only out of tune with the definite
W.G.P. (Walnut Grove Press)
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 23, 2011 6:51:34 GMT 9.5
Certainly it was/is important for the ancient gods who were dying on this planet (probably due to the aging Sun). One of the few certainties in life is that persons of certainty should certainly be avoided
Willy Russell (Born this day 1947)
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 23, 2011 7:06:20 GMT 9.5
Perfect truth is not attainable anywhere. We style this Degree that of Per- fection; and yet what it teaches is imperfect and defective. Yet we are not to relax in the pursuit of truth, nor contentedly acquiesce in error. It is our duty always to press forward in the search; for though absolute truth is unattainable, yet the amount of error in our views is capable of progressive and perpetual diminution; and thus Masonry is a continual struggle toward the light
Albert Mackey Morals & Dogma
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Post by paul on Aug 23, 2011 7:58:57 GMT 9.5
One of the few certainties in life is that persons of certainty should certainly be avoided.... That is certainly good advice. I think I shall take it.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 23, 2011 8:53:35 GMT 9.5
..thus Masonry is a continual struggle toward the light Albert MackeyMorals & DogmaI continually struggle, I must be on the right track.. The song He Ain't Heavy, He's my Brother just sprang to mind. Love rules ok. Now, another song has just sprang to mind Lead Kindly Light. Wonder where they came from.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 23, 2011 12:04:18 GMT 9.5
I see the censor has struck again (I'll not again put my name to the membership here while such action is used in any instances which, while fair and civil, are telling or otherwise critical). As in when we have enriched/evolved/expanded our Being to such an extent that we encompass all knowledge and arrive at a state of Knowingness?
Some that die and come back experience a state of being like this, they cannot remember the detail upon returning to the body however. From my desk calendar for this week:
Some people think they are in tune with the infinite when they are only out of tune with the definite
W.G.P. (Walnut Grove Press) [/center][/quote] Many people experience a state of transcendence, where they perceive the unity with and of all that is. This, however, is not a state of omniscience . They do not know everything and, at this level of the One Life, they are not capable of omniscience. By way of analogy, were it possible for one of our liver cells, as part of its rudimentary mentation, to experience transcendence whereby it apprehends that, in performing its natural functions, it is contributing to a greater purpose (us), its knowledge would not exceed a general awareness. Our functioning at this human level is completely beyond the possibilities of our hypothetical liver cell’s understanding: The simplest of our tasks, such as tying our shoes laces or brushing our teeth, let alone the knowledge, language, skills and technology involved in my typing this post are outside the possibilities and indeed outside the realities of its cognition. Thus it is with us and our states of transcendence.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 23, 2011 13:21:38 GMT 9.5
Yes, I see what you mean. Omniscience is acquired when we become One with the All ?
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Post by paul on Aug 23, 2011 13:36:49 GMT 9.5
Many human biological and psychological functions operate at the subconscious level, but with effort the partially transcendent human may recover consciousness of them. Generally, however, the human (transcendent or not) does not wish its consciousness to be flooded with the situational flow of each organ and cell.
Similarly the omniscience of the Source is focused to meet specific needs.
The human, may link its consciousness with other aspects of Creation, depending upon relationship, need and structure, and restricted by accessible levels of transcendence.
Gardening is a good place to practice.
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Post by Tamrin on Aug 23, 2011 17:39:29 GMT 9.5
One of the few certainties in life is that persons of certainty should certainly be avoided.... That is certainly good advice. I think I shall take it.Aaah, the futility of life! The Self forever seeking to evade itself and, in the process, giving rise to the illusion of separation. Look about you! This futile quest is the root cause giving rise to all the superficial wonders which constitute creation. The priority now is to recall the unity at the core of our being.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 24, 2011 9:53:24 GMT 9.5
That's right, you're Paul! Be kind to yourself.
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