The Eagle

[paul]

The Eagle appears in the 18th degree as a white eagle with wings extended as if rising in the air.

This is asserted by the ritual to be a Christian symbol but a white eagle does not appear in the OT or the NT.

In alchemy there is a process of purifying solids by sublimation. The solid is heated in the bottom of a closed container. The vapour rises and condenses on the top of the container, usually as a white powder - the whiteness is a property of the very fine crystalline structure.

Commonly in an alchemical process such a purification is repeated and the instruction may appear as: Fly the eagle seven times.

Thus in alchemy the white eagle does indeed rise in the air.

But why "eagle"?

[LorrB]

Nov 21, 2013 8:53:23 GMT 9.5 paul said:

The Eagle appears in the 18th degree as a white eagle with wings extended as if rising in the air.

This is asserted by the ritual to be a Christian symbol but a white eagle does not appear in the OT or the NT.

In alchemy there is a process of purifying solids by sublimation. The solid is heated in the bottom of a closed container. The vapour rises and condenses on the top of the container, usually as a white powder - the whiteness is a property of the very fine crystalline structure.

Commonly in an alchemical process such a purification is repeated and the instruction may appear as: Fly the eagle seven times.

Thus in alchemy the white eagle does indeed rise in the air.

But why "eagle"?

The Eagle represents the Soul?
The physical person/personality is heated in a closed container (Body). And repeatedly so, over a life and/or lifetimes.
White powder/white stone
Fly the Eagle Seven times.... the seven major subtle energy centers of the body must be fully 'opened'. (Seven officer of the body lodge?)
The eagle might have been chosen because it are usually found living in tall trees near a body of water. Keen eyesight and distant views spring to mind.. soul sight.

Just thoughts.

[paul]

Certainly it is possible to relate the sublimation process to the soul rising out of the dense matter.

Flying the eagle 7 times might well have an esoteric underpinning - e.g. 7 subplanes to be addressed.

The eagle is quite a good metaphor for the soul - soaring above the material plane, watching.

[Deleted]

What if the eagle is Horus, and the wolf is the Seth animal



>Notice how the mast of the ship seems fixed to the tree? The mast of the ship intersects with 3 branches on the tree, which represents Orions belt. The dog is Canis Majoris. The compass with a star in it is the dogs star, Sirius.

[paul]

I rather think that Leonardo's depiction of the Eagle shows how to see it and what its function is.

Horus was commonly represented by a hawk. I don't know if the Egyptians had eagles too.

[Deleted]

Jan 20, 2014 20:37:06 GMT 9.5 paul said:

I rather think that Leonardo's depiction of the Eagle shows how to see it and what its function is.

Horus was commonly represented by a hawk. I don't know if the Egyptians had eagles too.

Can we not compare the weighing of the heart in the Duat with a boat on the sea? The place where the Sun sank into at Sun Seth?





A hawk is not so dissimilar from an eagle,



"The heart of Osiris is joyful, and the heart of Horus is glad; therefore the Temples of Upper and Lower Egypt are in peace."

[paul]

>Can we not compare the weighing of the heart in the Duat with a boat on the sea?

The boat is in the ocean of the Cosmos, as the "wolf" approaches the planet Earth where the Eagle wears a crown that floats above the head.

The Eagle (in 2 headed form) is used as a national symbol only by northern hemisphere countries afaik. This may tell us that the Eagle stands on the north pole.

The Eagle is commonly depicted with 2 heads as it looks two ways at once - into the Earth and into the Solar System.

Perhaps we may see the Eagle if we look.

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So we have the wolf in a boat, and the tail is curled in such a way to appear as a lunar crescent.




Earth, Air, Water and Fire are depicted clearly.
The eagle is viewed as being equivalent to the five-pointed star,
the crown represents transmutation in the alchemical sense.





The wolf, in a bent over position, lunar,
being guided towards the upright eagle and Kether, standing on Malkuth, by the rays of Tifereth.

[paul]

A symbol, in order to be a symbol, needs to be structured so at to resonate with the target aspect of reality. For example, a TV antenna only is one if it is structured to resonate with TV signals.

Thus we might start our investigation of the alleged symbol by looking to see if it has relationship with any known symbols.

Having surveyed the context we might proceed by:

- testing to see if the design is actually resonating with significant energy (Lorr sometimes does that with a pendulum)
- attempting to identify the nature of the energy and its origin and function.

If we are not so skilled or oriented, we might contemplate the alleged symbol to feel if it has recognisable effects and consider whether those effects are beneficial to us.

Then if the design is indeed a symbol and is of value to us, then we consider how to draw upon the influence that flows through it.

[LorrB]

I was getting all carried away with this image when I looked at it again more closely.
Fibon.. mentioned the crescent moon shape tail on the animal and then I noticed that:

the boat is egg shaped
the globe cannot be earth as it is resting on a shoreline
rough sailing ahead with turbulence
the compass seems to be pointing between cardinal points

So I did the old Google bit and found this

There are many interpretations but one that has historical merit would be that the wolf represents a corrupt church navigating a peace loving ship of the church towards the eagle who represents the holy roman emperor. In this case the eagle is a representation of the french king, king Francis I, and bears a crown decorated with the fleur de lis, which is a common symbol of French heraldry (coats of arms).

This piece could then be a reference to the Concordat of Bologna agreed upon by Pope Leo X and Francis I in 1516. The agreement allowed the Pope to collect all the incomes made by the church and provided the king with rights to tithe clerics and appoint archbishops.

The use of an eagle on a globe would represent the imperial goals of King Francis I who began his reign a year before, in 1515, and brought about the beginning of French exploration in the new world. Da Vinci would have been a fan of the king who was a generous patron of the arts.

The use of a wolf has negative connotations in terms of catholic religion where symbolically the church is meant to be protecting its flock of sheep. In this case the wolf most likely does not represent the pope but the corrupt clergy of church.

Although the eagle on the globe represents the holy roman emperor - King Francis I never became the holy roman emperor - and the title belonged to Maximilian I beginning in 1519. This could mean Leonardo is referencing the prophesy of the second Charlemagne, in which a french king, contrary to tradition, becomes the holy roman emperor. According the prophesy God would use the king as a instrument to cleanse the church, convert infidels, and gain supremacy over the entire world.


easyartsymbols.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/da-vinci-allegories-i.html

Checked it all out and the dates fit well. The Concordat of Bologna was in 1516 and that is the year Leonardo did the artwork. He died in 1519.

I guess the crown with its Fleur de Lys might indicate that France is involved and Francis I never did become the Holy Roman Emperor (raised crown).

I can imagine why DaVinci depicted the Pope as a wolf at that time.

[paul]

Let me suggest that Leonardo was interested in more profound matters than transient human politics and theo-politics.

The key is the Eagle has a crown above the head but not touching the head.

Note also that the compass points towards the heart of the Eagle.

The same Eagle appears in various forms in Masonry.


It is possible to go out to meet that Eagle

[LorrB]

Has it got a silver chest?

[paul]

Certainly it has a very bright chest - perhaps more to the white.

Leonardo emphasised the brightness of the chest in his depiction.

[Deleted]

The globe has not been drawn to resemble the Earth, surely the continents would have been more accurately represented?

>The key is the Eagle has a crown above the head but not touching the head.
The crown is not touching the rising eagle's head suggests it has not yet reached Keter.
The eagle shown is not double headed, if it were then it may refer to Da'ath,

The heart is emphasised, the rising eagle has reached the stage of Tifereth?

[paul]

Try entering into the scene and experiencing it directly.

[LorrB]

Your explanation re the TOL struck a note Fibon..

I am also reminded of that image of scorpion, eagle and phoenix ... representing body, soul and spirit.

[Deleted]

Jan 24, 2014 12:11:33 GMT 9.5 LorrB said:

Your explanation re the TOL struck a note Fibon..

I'm glad I'm not on my own on this one.


>Try entering into the scene and experiencing it directly.
Having done this, I did not connect with the Eagle, instead I went into a sort of subconscious journey of the Wolf.

The tree as growth, and the model for that growth, a tree of life, of evolution and transmutation.
The Axis-Mundi in the boat, just as the Eagle stands atop the North Pole.

The back of the boat is wide, sweeping to a point at the front, an analogy of the direction of the compass point,
where magnetic north is Light. Beginning in darkness, pointing this way and that, over the journey,
the destination is more clearly visible, the heart of the Eagle, the closer he comes.

The shape of the boat also mirrors the shape of the Eagle's head, coming to a point, the single point representing the 'Infinite Being',
a single point of light.

The wind pushing the sail is the same wind that catches the wings of the Eagle by which it soar upwards.

The Wolf's compass also stands on a cube (Earth), the Eagle upon a sphere (Heaven). Yet this is contradictory as the sphere is earth-like,
yet perhaps deliberately not depicted as planet earth, given the features on it.

The Wolf, is seated, possibly on the way to becoming upright? I feel he would have been shown as a little more human-like if that were the case though.

So the tree in the boat mirrors the Eagle on the globe.
The shape of the boat mirrors the shape of the Eagle's head.
The sail of the boat mirrors the Eagle's wings.

Leaving me to conclude that the globe starts as the boat, which goes from being a rocky Lunar-like sphere with Wolf consciousness, through the sea of the cosmos, a journey, receiving Light, and
rising 'upwards' to higher states of being. An analogy for the process every consciousness undertakes, a transmigration and ultimately a consecration of power, the crowning of the Eagle.

Lastly, for now, the crown not touching the head of the Eagle reminded me of the Eye of Providence, which shown below, 'floats' above the pyramid.



I will try and connect with the Eagle again, hopefully more successfully, and research the meaning of the Eagle more deeply in the meantime.

[Deleted]

>The Eagle is commonly depicted with 2 heads as it looks two ways at once - into the Earth and into the Solar System.
The two headed Eagle as the Rebis, the White Eagle as the white head/half of the Rebis, and the sublimation of the black/white antithesis.

[paul]

Jan 24, 2014 20:15:17 GMT 9.5 @fibonaccimatrix said:

The two headed Eagle as the Rebis, the White Eagle as the white head/half of the Rebis, and the sublimation of the black/white antithesis.

I have not detected any sign of the rebis in the depiction. Have I missed something?

[paul]

>I went into a sort of subconscious journey of the Wolf.

So what is your experience of the wolf?