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Post by LorrB on Oct 12, 2011 8:31:48 GMT 9.5
Key 26
Everything is created by a word. This word is a rate of vibration and is said to be the true name of the thing or body which it builds around itself. We may say that bodies are spiritual thoughts put into words. The letters of the alphabet which form the constituents of words in the physical world are the chemical elements. Therefore, our forms are words made up of a certain number of chemicals. An example of this can be studies first hand by the advanced student who sees the word-forms created by the rates of vibration of a person's voice; for man is a creator on a small scale, giving a certain degree of immortality to his thought-forms and word-pictures. Hence, he is held responsible by Karma for these invisible creations.
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Post by paul on Oct 15, 2011 8:41:29 GMT 9.5
The term "word" is symbolic I once saw out past the solar system an immense female entity and from its mouth projected 7 (?) long hexagonal(?) columns like basalt that vibrated together to produce an immense complex sound - of Creation. I seem to recall that it was in the context of the 7 Rays.
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Post by tamrin on Oct 16, 2011 7:05:53 GMT 9.5
I once saw out past the solar system an immense female entity and from its mouth projected 7 (?) long hexagonal(?) columns like basalt that vibrated together to produce an immense complex sound - of Creation. I seem to recall that it was in the context of the 7 Rays. I presume this impression arose from your practice of rising on the planes (which, on several occasions, you described as being the "core masonic skill" of "climbing Jacob's ladder"). What is your understanding of this experience? Is it akin to your experience of riding a unicorn over around the North Pole? Or, in travelling past the solar system, would you be able to describe phenomena observable through a telescope (e.g., volcanic eruptions on planets and their moons)?
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Post by tamrin on Oct 16, 2011 10:07:37 GMT 9.5
I once saw out past the solar system an immense female entity and from its mouth projected 7 (?) long hexagonal(?) columns like basalt that vibrated together to produce an immense complex sound - of Creation. I seem to recall that it was in the context of the 7 Rays. Would this impression be more or less reliable than your well known impression of an Egyptian apron at the Gold of the Pharaohs exhibit?
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2011 10:39:48 GMT 9.5
I once saw out past the solar system an immense female entity and from its mouth projected 7 (?) long hexagonal(?) columns like basalt that vibrated together to produce an immense complex sound - of Creation. I seem to recall that it was in the context of the 7 Rays. I presume this impression arose from your practice of rising on the planes (which, on several occasions, you described as being the "core masonic skill" of "climbing Jacob's ladder"). What is your understanding of this experience? Is it akin to your experience of riding a unicorn over around the North Pole? Or, in travelling past the solar system, would you be able to describe phenomena observable through a telescope (e.g., volcanic eruptions on planets and their moons)? I don't know about Paul, but one of our members is able to see things that other can't (with eyes wide open). I remember some years ago she told us all about mentally (?) travelling through the solar system and she saw what seemed like an explosion on Mars. We just took it for what it was at the time, we liked her , but I must admit to being almost shocked when several days later what she had seen was also seen by scientists, through their telescopes (?), and reported in the daily newspaper.
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Post by paul on Oct 16, 2011 10:47:23 GMT 9.5
Tamrin
The core skill of rising on the planes (climbing the "the theological ladder, which Jacob in his vision saw, reaching from earth to heaven,") is preserved in various of the ancient mysteries and their descendents - including in craft Masonry and some of the higher degrees (most clearly in RoS). Even it is preserved symbolically in children's games such as snakes and ladders.
While the actual practices have been carefully concealed over the centuries, in the last generation simple forms of the practices have been in the public domain for those interested. Typically they take the form of a sequence of steps or colours or both.
The simple practices, when properly assimilated, by an upright candidate for initiation, will generally attract an inner sponsor who will teach more subtle forms - including, where appropriate, those suited to metaphysicists
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2011 10:54:55 GMT 9.5
I once saw out past the solar system an immense female entity and from its mouth projected 7 (?) long hexagonal(?) columns like basalt that vibrated together to produce an immense complex sound - of Creation. I seem to recall that it was in the context of the 7 Rays. Would this impression be more or less reliable than your well known impression of an Egyptian apron at the Gold of the Pharaohs exhibit? In their book Amazing Secrets of the Psychic World, Raymond Buckland and Hereward Carrington explain that communication between worlds is very difficult. Each world is unique and our words are often inadequate to describe it. It seems that the 'easiest' way of communicating is by using visualisation. We do the same in lodge. Jacobs ladder, the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. Three Pillars. ?
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Post by tamrin on Oct 16, 2011 10:58:37 GMT 9.5
I don't know about Paul, but one of our members is able to see things that other can't (with eyes wide open). I remember some years ago she told us all about mentally (?) travelling through the solar system and she saw what seemed like an explosion on Mars. We just took it for what it was at the time, we liked her , but I must admit to being almost shocked when several days later what she had seen was also seen by scientists, through their telescopes (?), and reported in the daily newspaper. Does she often relate such travels? Did her account bear more than a superficial resemblance to the report later published? Did she also report other explosions or phenomena elsewhere in her travels? Remember too, some media takes much longer than others to publish the news. If it's all ridgy-didge then this is indeed news-worthy. It would turn just about every mainstream intellectual premise on its head. This deserves to be followed-up. Unless its an extremely rare (almost non-existent) occurrence then it's surprising there hasn't already been some verifiable proof of such abilities.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 16, 2011 11:04:55 GMT 9.5
I guess she was just doing some Remote Viewing, which various governments have been interested in for some time. Govts had successes with their experiments, but not enough to warrant keeping the program going. Or that is the story we are told.
I have tried to do some of this myself, but didn't get anywhere with it.
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Post by paul on Oct 16, 2011 11:06:06 GMT 9.5
... travelling through the solar system and she saw what seemed like an explosion on Mars. .... Did she see the Sun at its meridian at night - just like the ritual?
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Post by tamrin on Oct 16, 2011 11:08:22 GMT 9.5
The core skill of rising on the planes (climbing the "the theological ladder, which Jacob in his vision saw, reaching from earth to heaven,")... Elsewhere you described this "core skill" as the "core masonic skill" yet you were unable to name a single core figure in masonic history who appears to have been adept at it!? This fantasy (no more or less than imaginatively and creatively exploring our mythosphere) highlights my objection to the administrator of this forum, as Freemasons, publishing preposterous assertions under the banner of Freemasonry.
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Post by paul on Oct 16, 2011 11:25:37 GMT 9.5
... you were unable to name a single core figure in masonic history who appears to have been adept at it!?..... Perhaps it is a secret practice - veiled in allegory until taught in the Golden Dawn. Even today few Qabalists are prepared to teach it. I am reminded of HPB's assertion in the 19th century that no lodges retained the genuine Masonic secrets. That statement however does not exclude individual brethren
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Post by tamrin on Oct 16, 2011 11:33:45 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Oct 17, 2011 7:58:06 GMT 9.5
The core skill of rising on the planes (climbing the "the theological ladder, which Jacob in his vision saw, reaching from earth to heaven,")... Elsewhere you described this "core skill" as the "core masonic skill" yet you were unable to name a single core figure in masonic history who appears to have been adept at it!? This fantasy (no more or less than imaginatively and creatively exploring our mythosphere) highlights my objection to the administrator of this forum, as Freemasons, publishing preposterous assertions under the banner of Freemasonry. Tamrin, Freemasons are free to think their own thoughts and share them. The secrecy part of Freemasonry was to protect it from State and Church and other dogmatists. I find some of your posts quite objectionable, most especially with your repeated attacks on individuals, rather than the ideas under discussion. Remember the Stone that was rejected by the Overseers.
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Post by tamrin on Oct 17, 2011 8:14:51 GMT 9.5
Tamrin, Freemasons are free to think their own thoughts and share them. Think their own thoughts, fair enough: It could not be otherwise (absurd notions of thought control aside). Sharing them in an untyled context, when it amounts to publication, is quite another thing. More people than you have an interest in Freemasonry and your wild, pathological and otherwise baseless assertions, especially AS Freemasons yourselves and under the banner of Freemasonry, have the capacity to defame masonry and to entrench prejudices against our rational Craft.
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Post by paul on Oct 17, 2011 8:19:42 GMT 9.5
Funnily enough "rational" is not one of the principles of Masonry. The first of course is brotherly love. Perhaps it is the most important.
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Post by tamrin on Oct 17, 2011 8:22:56 GMT 9.5
But we are charged to develop our moral and intellectual capacities, with logic one of the subjects we are to master.
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Post by paul on Oct 17, 2011 8:38:40 GMT 9.5
It is only recently that I understood how important the liberal arts and sciences are to a brother seeking the hidden mysteries of nature and science.
There are 3 key aspects:
- training the intellect and other senses in multiple fields - learning to perceive in multiple dimensions simultaneously - using data from other arts and sciences to illumine matters not well understood (hidden mysteries).
The last turns out to be quite important. For example a poet or artist might make an observation of nature that is relevant to a problem in physics.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 17, 2011 9:06:59 GMT 9.5
I'm thinking Vincent Van Gogh
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Post by LorrB on Oct 31, 2011 8:36:49 GMT 9.5
Key 27
The great vibratory fiats of cosmic creation (called in the ancient Qabbalah the Sacred Names) when placed in the hands of the wise, unlock the mystery of being. In the hands of the foolish, however, they are destructive forces which will ultimately destroy all who seek to desecrate them. They are, in truth, the flaming letter which illuminate the way of the sincere aspirant, but which burn the unpurified and insincere with a consuming fire.
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