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Post by Henka on Oct 17, 2011 1:05:11 GMT 9.5
The serpent knowledge relates to the Kundalini within us. Henka, if you dont mind me asking, but I am assuming that you have enjoyed the experience of Kundalini growth and movement, but how did it feel to you when it first began to rise? What about subsequent times? How did you feel when it touched your throat for the first time, and also your head? Just being nosey I have said all I am willing to say in a public venue. You will understand, I trust.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 17, 2011 2:15:36 GMT 9.5
Henka, if you dont mind me asking, but I am assuming that you have enjoyed the experience of Kundalini growth and movement, but how did it feel to you when it first began to rise? What about subsequent times? How did you feel when it touched your throat for the first time, and also your head? Just being nosey I have said all I am willing to say in a public venue. You will understand, I trust. I do understand Henka. Sometimes I forget that having accidentally stumbled across all of this that not everyone, for various reasons, prefer to keep it quiet [ranging form obligations, belief that they will loose it, not wanting ridicule, etc]. One thing about esoteric theory that seems to be incorrect to me though based on my own personal experiences is that you should keep quiet else you will loose what you have gained. Something that life experience tells me isn't true, for the more that I have talked the more doors have opened for me. Anyhow let me share my own experience with you. The first time that I felt my Kundalini rise I was walking down the street and it just happened, like a warm fire inside me flowing upwards. I had no idea what it was at first then I began to put two and two together. Now even if there was a perfectly mundane explanation for it from that moment my esoteric growth catapulted forwards. The first time it hit my throat - it hurt, like my throat was clogged. And the first time it hit my head, well - wow. Clearly it may be different for someone who went through esoteric training to achieve this, but when you are not even looking for it, that was the result.
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Post by Henka on Oct 17, 2011 2:38:18 GMT 9.5
That is because it was uncontrolled.
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2011 11:49:05 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2011 15:20:27 GMT 9.5
And here is Mithras as the lion-headed initiator - presumably with a lion's grip Notice the snake (cable tow) wound around 7 times. It finishes with the snake head on top of his. And the thing that looks like a square in his hand is actually a key (to the kingdom of heaven)
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2011 15:25:04 GMT 9.5
And here is Mithras with his cape (canopy) of the heavens
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Post by Henka on Oct 18, 2011 21:32:49 GMT 9.5
And here is Mithras as the lion-headed initiator - presumably with a lion's grip Notice the snake (cable tow) wound around 7 times. It finishes with the snake head on top of his. And the thing that looks like a square in his hand is actually a key (to the kingdom of heaven) You say presumably - which indicates that this is a guess, not knowledge. You want to believe there is a lion's grip, when there is no evidence from the image. The snake symbolizes two things: Wisdom, and the rising Serpent Power, or Kundalini, which is what the symbology of seven steps, coils and seven rungs on the ladder, etc. represent. The serpent's head rising above the head of the image represents illumination, or an open crown chakra. The "key" to heaven is the open crown chakra, which enables us to receive messages from the divine, which is interpreted through the pineal gland, or brow chakra.
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2011 5:41:50 GMT 9.5
The other lion initiator is Sekhmet
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Post by LorrB on Oct 19, 2011 8:01:08 GMT 9.5
A little aside...
A line becomes a plane by moving 90 Deg to itself, likewise the plane to become a cube.
Might not the square indicate the rule/law for understanding and gaining access to other dimensions?
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2011 8:09:56 GMT 9.5
Does that mean we have to think out of the box (cube) to find the next dimension? Oh dear.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 19, 2011 8:47:53 GMT 9.5
;D
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Post by LorrB on Oct 20, 2011 12:03:20 GMT 9.5
Ancient Origins, Astro Archeology, Solar Myths et al From The Secret Doctrine, H P Blavatsky writes... “Moses, an Initiate into the Egyptian Mystagogy, based the religious mysteries of the new nation which he created upon the same abstract formulae derived from this Sidereal Cycle, symbolized by the form and measurements of the Tabernacle, which he is supposed to have constructed in the Wilderness. On these data, the later Jewish High Priests constructed the allegory of Solomon’s Temple – a building which never had a real existence, any more than had King Solomon himself, who is as much a solar myth as is the still later Hiram Abif of the Masons, as Ragon has well demonstrated. Thus, if the measurements of this allegorical Temple, the symbol of the cycle of Initiation, coincide with those of the Great Pyramid, it is due to the fact that the former were derived from the latter through the Tabernacle of Moses.”
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Post by LorrB on Oct 24, 2011 8:36:11 GMT 9.5
But, again, we are met with the objection that such a truth is only apparently a truth; i.e., on the plane of embodied appearances, and naturally the question arises, where (if at all) is the real truth of the mythos? That truth which is beyond the mere metaphysical thinker and commonplace philosopher; the truth which the Initiates recognize--where is it? That truth lies far beyond the purview of Astro-Mythology. It is connected with the center of angelic life.
Sufficient here to say that, as there are seven races of humanity, seven divisions to the human constitution, seven active principles in Nature, typified by the seven rays of the solar spectrum, so are there seven centres of angelic life, corresponding to the seven planetary forces formulated in "The Science of the Stars," and, as each one of us must of necessity belong to one of the particular angelic centres from which we originally emanated, the Initiate can see no reason why AENEAS MAY NOT IN REALITY belong to that celestial vortex represented by Venus upon the plane of material life.
This being the case, we see how beautiful the ancients' system of temple worship must have been. The simple rustic, in reverence and awe, accepting the gross and physical meaning--the only one possible to his dark, sensuous mind. The scholar and philosopher bow their wiser heads with equal humility, accepting with equally sincere faith the more abstract form of the allegory; while on the other hand, the priest and the Initiate, lifting their loftier souls above the earth and its formulas of illusion and matter, accept that higher and more spiritual application, which renders them equally as sincere and devout as their less enlightened worshipers. It is thus we find these astro-myths true for all time, true in every age of the world, and EQUALLY TRUE OF ALL NATIONS. And this is the real reason why we find every nation under the Sun possessing clear traditions relating to the same identical fables, under different names, which are simply questions of nationality. THE LIGHT OF EGYPT OR THE SCIENCE OF THE SOUL AND THE STARS Volume II, by Thomas H Burgoyne www.phoenixmasonry.org/the_light_of_egypt.htm
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Post by paul on Oct 27, 2011 17:01:28 GMT 9.5
The sons of the widow preceded the modern form of Masonry: "the Gnostics were often called the “Sons of Light”, or sometimes the “Religion of Light”- especially in the case of the Manichean Gnostics. They were also referred to as the “Sons of the Widow”, as found in the Manichean, Valentinian and Mandean traditions." www.freemasoninformation.com/2009/07/gnostic-reflections-in-freemasonry/And Horus, the Lord of Life (having raised Asar/Osiris) was also the son of the widow.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 28, 2011 8:12:34 GMT 9.5
Was Mother Mary a widow when her son, Jesus, raised up L-Asar-us?
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Post by paul on Oct 28, 2011 8:22:00 GMT 9.5
Was Mother Mary a widow when her son, Jesus, raised up L-Asar-us? Give me a minute with the gospels and a pen and I can arrange that.
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Post by LorrB on Nov 14, 2011 13:41:39 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Apr 20, 2013 8:41:49 GMT 9.5
I am currently interested in the origins of the 18th degree - Rose Croix. It is overtly a Christian degree but very little of the symbolism appears in the New Testament and none of the ritual actions. When I exclude the Christian interpretations I have a ruler from the heavens who descends to a group of princes (relatives) with two primary princes that seem to be militant (generals).
This could be a reflection of Sumerian texts where the heavenly ruler (An/Anu/On) descends to sort out the conflict between Enlil (Baal/Bul) and Enki (Ea). The conflict is difficult to sort out as both wish to inherit the celestial crown and the heavenly sovereign descends and ascends several times in the negotiations.
The princes (sons of The Most High) are suffering early deaths on Earth (noxious Sun?) and need special food and drink (bread of life and water of life) to maintain their immortality.
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Post by stepnwolf on Apr 23, 2013 17:00:42 GMT 9.5
Stewart Early in my studies I was taught that messing with Kundalini is dangerous. I didn't listen. I wasn't prepared. The experience was one enormous weight and fear. There was a blast of light, red not white. There was a sense of isolation I never want to experience again in this lifetime. I don't know how one could be prepared for such an experience.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 23, 2013 17:41:27 GMT 9.5
I am with you on that subject stepnwolf. I woke one night when I felt I my body had leapt into the air about a foot as the result of electrocution. It was at the base of the spine.
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