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Post by paul on May 27, 2011 7:33:39 GMT 9.5
To be a member only means the opportunity to associate with a particular group of people while others are off limits, nothing more. I recall a predatory male who would come to the daily meditations. I found that the spiritual energies curdled when he was in the room so if I was leading the meditation I would not invoke them. The more profound energies would not enter at all. Thus a lodge needs to be tyled inside and out.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2011 8:44:59 GMT 9.5
To be a member only means the opportunity to associate with a particular group of people while others are off limits, nothing more. You are confusing regularity with recognition.
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Post by roman on May 27, 2011 9:42:01 GMT 9.5
To be a member only means the opportunity to associate with a particular group of people while others are off limits, nothing more. You are confusing regularity with recognition. No , not at all. I was simply explaining the 101 of membership.
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Post by roman on May 27, 2011 9:42:46 GMT 9.5
Lorr, we all know girls are Freemasons. If this is so commonly known why isn't more done about the issue?
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Post by Henka on May 27, 2011 9:45:27 GMT 9.5
You are confusing regularity with recognition. No , not at all. I was simply explaining the 101 of membership. No, you are trying to set up the argument that your particular flavor of irregular Masonry is legitimate - just as all of your recent posts have done.
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Post by roman on May 27, 2011 9:48:16 GMT 9.5
No , not at all. I was simply explaining the 101 of membership. No, you are trying to set up the argument that your particular flavor of irregular Masonry is legitimate - just as all of your recent posts have done. Nope, you're just showing your total lack of understanding of Masonic jurisprudence. To be a Master is to show mastery. You should hold your mentors accountable.
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Post by Henka on May 27, 2011 9:56:23 GMT 9.5
No, you are trying to set up the argument that your particular flavor of irregular Masonry is legitimate - just as all of your recent posts have done. Nope, you're just showing your total lack of understanding of Masonic jurisprudence. To be a Master is to show mastery. You should hold your mentors accountable. Sure I should Brad.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2011 19:06:49 GMT 9.5
If the work is worked to wear the apron is always tied around the waist in a sense than it's effective. I am confused by your bizarre grammar and spelling (which betrays your identity) but, if you are trying to say that the work of a Freemason involves more than wearing an apron, then I agree. I especially agree that it involves more than the wearing of a cut-out paper apron received in the post. The work requires considerable time and effort from the aspirant or newly initiated Brother, his or her sponsors and the lodge, followed by a lifetime of application, mutual support, further unfoldings and earnest development.
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Post by paul on May 27, 2011 19:46:28 GMT 9.5
Let's keep this on the level of brotherly love please.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2011 19:50:16 GMT 9.5
Nope, you're just showing your total lack of understanding of Masonic jurisprudence. "Regularity and Recogition" [Masonic Jurisprudence 1.01] by W.Bro. Tony Pope www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/pope4.htmlThe terms 'regular' and 'irregular' are used to describe individual Masons, their lodges, and their Grand Lodges or other ruling bodies. 'Recognition' (and its verb, 'recognise') are used to describe the relationship between Masonic ruling bodies. These terms are often confused, with 'regular' being treated as a synonym for 'recognised', which it is not.
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Post by roman on May 28, 2011 0:29:46 GMT 9.5
I've never stated that regular was a synonym for recognized.
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Post by mgc on May 28, 2011 1:28:14 GMT 9.5
a new standard which dissolves the difference between regular and irregular, recognized and not recognized, supports unity.. who here wants unity?
imo 1 shouldnt look to the letter but to the spirit of the law in creating a new standard..
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Post by paul on May 28, 2011 6:55:15 GMT 9.5
the spirit of the law in creating a new standard.. The problem however is that while some brethren can interact directly with Spirit and/or the GAOTU, Masonic institutions have largely lost that ability. As a result human interests predominate.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 6:57:50 GMT 9.5
I've never stated that regular was a synonym for recognized. In a discussion about regularity you raised an issue of recognition and, when that matter was pointed out, you reckoned there was no inconsistency and that it was others who lacked a basic understanding of masonic jurisprudence. To be a member only means the opportunity to associate with a particular group of people while others are off limits, nothing more. You are confusing regularity with recognition.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 7:02:09 GMT 9.5
a new standard which dissolves the difference between regular and irregular, recognized and not recognized, supports unity.. who here wants unity? imo 1 shouldnt look to the letter but to the spirit of the law in creating a new standard.. I'd be in favour of an informal unity of all regular freemasons (obviously not including instant, mailorder types and other scam jobs).
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Post by roman on May 28, 2011 7:41:42 GMT 9.5
I've never stated that regular was a synonym for recognized. In a discussion about regularity you raised an issue of recognition and, when that matter was pointed out, you reckoned there was no inconsistency and that it was others who lacked a basic understanding of masonic jurisprudence. You are confusing regularity with recognition. [/quote] A point was made that regularity meant a direct lineage. I pointed out that was false. and it is.
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Post by mgc on May 28, 2011 11:06:51 GMT 9.5
the spirit of the law in creating a new standard.. The problem however is that while some brethren can interact directly with Spirit and/or the GAOTU, Masonic institutions have largely lost that ability. As a result human interests predominate. i suppose there r ways to correct those who have lost their way? i sense a polar shift comming.. irregular becomes regular and vice versa.. a shift in balance is evident.. the resulting friction between the 2 has been increasing for a while now.. how long will it take befor mfm becomes the underdog?
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Post by roman on May 28, 2011 11:24:59 GMT 9.5
Sands always shift.
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Post by paul on May 28, 2011 12:01:24 GMT 9.5
I hope that if a Grand Lodge that is not recognised by mainstream Masonry but is close to the practices of the large Grand Lodges, lasts more than a century then recognition will extended progressively.
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Post by roman on May 28, 2011 12:23:07 GMT 9.5
Recognition is not important, realization is.
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