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Post by Henka on May 11, 2011 6:36:34 GMT 9.5
ppl dont "just" do something.. ive proven this to u befor.. why do they want to get high? because it feels good.. why does it feel good? melatonin.. what does melatonin do? did u bother to read the file? or r u just pissed i dont agree with your view of the usa? I could care less of your views of the US. Melatonin can be taken as a supplement, so your file, which I did not read as I do not open files other people link to, is apparently (going on what you stated) using lack of melatonin to rationalize use of dope. That is a no-go.
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Post by Henka on May 11, 2011 6:39:03 GMT 9.5
If you, or anyone else, wants to smoke weed, be honest with yourself and others and say "I smoke weed because I like to get high." I would sooner give the bum on the corner money if his sign said "I need money for beer" than "I will work for food," which we all know is a lie.
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Post by mgc on May 11, 2011 8:25:38 GMT 9.5
first of all, i didnt link it, i referred to it..
i suggest u read the material befor commenting.. its worth the read..
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Post by LorrB on May 11, 2011 9:48:16 GMT 9.5
Time out! The pointy end of the pine cone seems to be causing some irritation. Henka, why do you condemn others for what you once did yourself? I agree with you that it is a behaviour that should be avoided as it is detrimental to the body (and more importantly the subtle bodies-if you are into such things). Good advice. But I more or less got the idea that mgc came to a sudden realisation of just what "seeking the secrets of higher degrees" might actually encompass. It just isn't a matter of peeking into rituals ahead of time. Message for all - don't do drugs to discover secrets.. they will overwhelm you and retard your evolution. I must remind myself of that next time I have a wine too many Now back to topic.
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Post by paul on May 11, 2011 10:17:23 GMT 9.5
From my observation drugs that alter consciousness (legal or illegal) are often accompanied by a range of entities that may have agendas unrelated to human well-being.
Unless well managed, use of such drugs constitutes an invitation to other entities to come in for a party. Some of those entities make the human their new home.
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Post by Henka on May 11, 2011 13:04:41 GMT 9.5
Henka, why do you condemn others for what you once did yourself? Because it is a stupid waste of time, money and mental capacity. As a teenager in the 70s, I didn't know better, now I do, and would be remiss to encourage or condone the use of mind altering substances outside of ritual use under the guidance of a shaman/medicine person.
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Post by LorrB on May 11, 2011 13:25:49 GMT 9.5
It's nice that you care about others enough to share your experience with them henka.
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Post by mgc on May 13, 2011 19:08:10 GMT 9.5
has any1 else read the file on melatonin yet?
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Post by cwhite on Aug 16, 2011 1:07:40 GMT 9.5
In Gen 32, it is said that Jacob met God on the isle of the Pineal... It is my belief that you too can meet God on the Isle of Pineal. If you look at the brain, it would seem that that little node in the middle of you're brain could seem like a island in a sea of brain matter. It is also the only part of your brain that is not dualistic in nature.
Another interesting thing is if you cut the brain in half horizontally directly in the middle, it would look like the "all seeing eye". The Pineal being directly in the middle. It is also of interest, the fact that the Pineal is made up of optical cells. Why bring up pot on the pine cone thread? If anything, you should smoke DMT for the pine cone.
Google DMT
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Post by cwhite on Aug 16, 2011 1:15:43 GMT 9.5
It is said that the Pineal is the seat of the soul. I equate that with stories of the throne of God.
Stories I was told as a child in sunday school about how God could rule/control the universe because the throne of God. Lucifer wanted to sit in the throne of God and was cast from heaven because of it.
As above so below.
The story of the heavenly body is a story of the human body. I see Lucifer (from this story) as the personification of the ego. It was said that Lucifer was Gods favorite angel. What do most people favor more than ego? Self?
Still havn't worked out the bugs yet, but I feel that it somehow relates to the Kundalini raising (serpent power, Lucifer being the spirit of the serpent and the "throne of God" being the "seat of the soul").
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Post by paul on Aug 16, 2011 7:54:38 GMT 9.5
The war in the heavens is a theme in native histories throughout the world. As above so below.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2011 10:13:24 GMT 9.5
Chris... found this, further to what you posted.. First the KJV..
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh
I wonder why it is spelled differently, accident or a clue? PENIEL
pe-ni'-el, pen'-i-el, pe'-ni-el (peni'el, "face of God"; Eidos theou): This is the form of the name in Gen 32:30. In the next verse and elsewhere it appears as "Penuel." The name is said to have been given to the place by Jacob after his night of wrestling by the Jabbok, because, as he said, "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." It was a height evidently close by the stream over which Jacob passed in the morning. Some have thought it might be a prominent cliff, the contour of which resembled a human face.
www.bible-history.com/isbe/P/PENIEL/
Alvin Boyd Kuhn was convinced by his researches that the Red Sea was the blood (and that we had to pass 'through' it to get to the other side.) Jacob is passed over the 'a stream'... and the cliff mentioned above remind me of that one finds in Freemasonry, with help stationed above.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2011 10:17:04 GMT 9.5
Rose Croix? Fits perfectly... especially with what Paul had to say ...
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Post by paul on Aug 16, 2011 10:21:30 GMT 9.5
A remarkable conclusion - but certainly allowing a simplicity of theory.
I recall that Abraham saw the god of his fathers face to face - and eventually cooked a ram for him?
Presumably in that case it was not a cliff contour that he saw.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2011 11:01:40 GMT 9.5
What if Abraham was not a real person but an allegory .. like Hiram. (all those rams... )
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Post by LorrB on Aug 16, 2011 11:03:55 GMT 9.5
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Post by cwhite on Aug 17, 2011 0:30:59 GMT 9.5
"I wonder why it is spelled differently, accident or a clue?"
The difference is from "i" to "u"..... conversion from STS to STO?
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Post by blackdragon1 on Aug 30, 2011 17:56:44 GMT 9.5
In Gen 32, it is said that Jacob met God on the isle of the Pineal... Google DMT I did not find any reference to the pineal in the Genesis 32...did a search on the whole bible..and none popped up(KJV) what version of the bible are you refering to..and which verse?
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Post by blackdragon1 on Aug 30, 2011 18:03:07 GMT 9.5
Chris... found this, further to what you posted.. First the KJV..
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh
I wonder why it is spelled differently, accident or a clue? PENIEL
pe-ni'-el, pen'-i-el, pe'-ni-el (peni'el, "face of God"; Eidos theou): This is the form of the name in Gen 32:30. In the next verse and elsewhere it appears as "Penuel." The name is said to have been given to the place by Jacob after his night of wrestling by the Jabbok, because, as he said, "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." It was a height evidently close by the stream over which Jacob passed in the morning. Some have thought it might be a prominent cliff, the contour of which resembled a human face.
www.bible-history.com/isbe/P/PENIEL/
Alvin Boyd Kuhn was convinced by his researches that the Red Sea was the blood (and that we had to pass 'through' it to get to the other side.) Jacob is passed over the 'a stream'... and the cliff mentioned above remind me of that one finds in Freemasonry, with help stationed above. and here lies the challenge in decoding allegories...they are so vague that any interpretation can be given to them..hence the different factions of the major religions, each one believing their own interpretations to be the correct one...not to mention the varying views of the bible accross christian & esoteric groups while i see strong sense in the view presented above, how do we confirm that peniel really represents pineal?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 31, 2011 9:07:49 GMT 9.5
and here lies the challenge in decoding allegories...they are so vague that any interpretation can be given to them..hence the different factions of the major religions, each one believing their own interpretations to be the correct one...not to mention the varying views of the bible accross christian & esoteric groups Purposely vague, do you think? As each person is an individual and working from their own unique place (centre) in the Universe, they are only able to see and interpret the allegories from their own current stand point. As individuals evolve and expand their consciousness so will they, in due time, expand their ‘centres’ and understand the interpretations of others, who are also evolving and expanding their ‘centres’. Eventually synthesis will occur. Each will understand the other and negative thoughts, words and deeds will cease. Understanding – knowledge -> Wisdom
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