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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2011 12:43:28 GMT 9.5
To simplify the chart use this list
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Of course it does help to know the properties of each of the steps and the above chart assists in that.
Further properties are derivable from the numeric relationships and this is a major advantage over the ToL representation.
For example if needing to deliver uplifting energy into 6.2, the numerical resonances would suggest using 5.2, 4.6, 4.2 etc - depending upon one's capacity
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2011 12:47:27 GMT 9.5
>Where on this ladder would you place the 7 Officers of a Lodge - yours and the masonic types.
I would prefer a ray structure - hence linking the officers with the logoic spirits - and thus to the temple in the heavens
There is an interaction of rays and planes but I am not sure how useful it is to apply planes to the officers. You might do better applying planes to degrees
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Post by Henka on Feb 17, 2011 13:10:00 GMT 9.5
To simplify the chart use this list 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 2.1 2.2 . . . . . . 7.7 Of course it does help to know the properties of each of the steps and the above chart assists in that. Further properties are derivable from the numeric relationships and this is a major advantage over the ToL representation. For example if needing to deliver uplifting energy into 6.2, the numerical resonances would suggest using 5.2, 4.6, 4.2 etc - depending upon one's capacity This doesn't help any. I must be dense, but I don't get these complex numerical relationships. Same problem I had with the GD, too complex. Zen is looking better every day. |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2011 13:26:27 GMT 9.5
It is all about controlling one's level of consciousness in order to undertake specific tasks. (veiling in allegory: bend down to look in the key hole and use a stool to get to a high shelf)
Various maps of consciousness are available. Provided we can use the particular map to trigger changes in consciousness and provided the map relates to the task in hand, then the choice of map is based on personal preference.
I like numbers. Others like imagery - as in the traditional ToL
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Post by LorrB on Feb 17, 2011 13:46:51 GMT 9.5
So if we can continue with the imagery of the ToL here (I'm an image person) then maybe we will begin to understand the numbers.
The first things I see when looking at your diagram are the groupings of threes and fours together... like our aprons.
I can also see a possible explanation for the r.... s.... in FM.
(Although the diagram I posted may make that clearer because of image quality)
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Post by LorrB on Feb 17, 2011 13:53:19 GMT 9.5
Zen is looking better every day.  I took the pen name of Zita on another forum. St Zita became a saint by doing her best, even if that was sweeping a floor. Her holy picture shows her as sweeping a door step. I just want to sweep floors! My brain hurts. (But I am rather fond of pearls and wish to collect them from whomever is generous enough to throw a few my way) |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2011 14:05:11 GMT 9.5
That is an interesting concept for the r.s. - although I suspect an historical mystery precedent as well.
Perhaps the ir.s occurs when the choice of step on Jacob's Ladder is accidental rather than by Masonic science
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Post by Henka on Feb 18, 2011 3:38:51 GMT 9.5
So if we can continue with the imagery of the ToL here (I'm an image person) then maybe we will begin to understand the numbers. I'm an image person as well. |
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Post by LorrB on Feb 18, 2011 7:29:22 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Feb 18, 2011 7:30:35 GMT 9.5
Found this on Facebook - and I wasn't even looking for anything!
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Post by LorrB on Feb 18, 2011 7:30:36 GMT 9.5
Found this on Facebook - and I wasn't even looking for anything!
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2011 19:14:24 GMT 9.5
Did you forget the link?
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Post by Henka on Feb 19, 2011 2:33:57 GMT 9.5
I believe she is referring to the TOL diagram in her previous post. |
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Post by LorrB on Feb 21, 2011 8:56:12 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Feb 21, 2011 9:07:13 GMT 9.5
From that same site.. Who would dare emit it from the heart of the masses and scrutinize their way when their attainment is incomplete even in the two parts of the Torah called “ Pshat” (literal) and “ Drush” (that you have to delve in to understand)? In their opinion, the order of the four parts of the Torah (PARDES) begins with the Pshat, then the Drush, then Remez (insinuated), and in the end the Sod (Secret) is understood. |
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Post by paul on Feb 21, 2011 10:06:12 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Feb 21, 2011 11:46:49 GMT 9.5
Keep the best bits for themselves. I sometimes wonder about that with 'the secrecy' in Freemasonry.
The best excuse I can come up with is that if you feed someone too quickly they'll likely 'chuck up'.
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Post by paul on Feb 21, 2011 12:04:42 GMT 9.5
Arguably there are several levels of content in Masonry and, other than on the most profound level, each level may contain several agenda.
For example HRA shows signs of:
- spiritual practices of the gods
- modification for their Sumerian descendants
- modification to meet Jewish and ToL requirements
- modification to meet Rosslyn requirements
- addition of Hindu aspects
- a Judao-Christian religious context.
And none of these layers is particularly important if alignment to the GAOTU is achieved.
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Post by Henka on Feb 21, 2011 13:48:01 GMT 9.5
Arguably there are several levels of content in Masonry and, other than on the most profound level, each level may contain several agenda. For example HRA shows signs of: - spiritual practices of the gods - modification for their Sumerian descendants - modification to meet Jewish and ToL requirements - modification to meet Rosslyn requirements - addition of Hindu aspects - a Judao-Christian religious context. And none of these layers is particularly important if alignment to the GAOTU is achieved. Good thing I decided not to join, even though I petitioned and was accepted. The more you spread yourself out in Masonry, the less you enjoy it, IMO. |
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Post by LorrB on Feb 21, 2011 14:46:29 GMT 9.5
I think you would enjoy the HRA, henka. It goes a long way to explaining 'the plan'.
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I took the pen name of Zita on another forum. St Zita became a saint by doing her best, even if that was sweeping a floor. Her holy picture shows her as sweeping a door step.