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Post by LorrB on May 15, 2012 8:16:11 GMT 9.5
... that is when we keep bumping into things all day.
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Post by LorrB on May 15, 2012 8:20:40 GMT 9.5
Talking about the earth moving... how about that involuntary jump the body sometimes does as one falls off to sleep. I think that is to do with the etheric body having second thoughts about separating.
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Post by paul on May 15, 2012 8:40:22 GMT 9.5
... that is when we keep bumping into things all day. Quite so
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Post by paul on May 15, 2012 8:42:27 GMT 9.5
Talking about the earth moving... how about that involuntary jump the body sometimes does as one falls off to sleep. I think that is to do with the etheric body having second thoughts about separating. That may also be the astral body starting to release and jumping back.
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Post by paul on May 16, 2012 7:56:26 GMT 9.5
Banning on this forum has only resulted from abuse of other posters. Certainly it is true that sexual activity can be a doorway to the inner worlds. The doorway goes both ways so it is important to protect the unwary and ignorant from improper intrusions. On the other hand, proper intrusions may lead to greater spiritual insight and function and perhaps a degree of heretical opinion "The word "heresy" comes from the Greek αἵρεσις, hairesis (from αιρεομαι, haireomai, "choose")" orthodoxwiki.org/Heresy
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Post by paul on May 16, 2012 8:31:17 GMT 9.5
The Garden of Eden story of shame at nakedness is rather odd. Many societies do not have the English aversion to nakedness and nudism. Why should the state of birth be shameful?
I think the clue may be found in the tendency over millennia, in warm climates, for slaves to be left naked, particularly if working in the fields.
I suspect the Genesis story is that the people discovered they were slaves and were ashamed.
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Post by LorrB on May 16, 2012 16:13:33 GMT 9.5
What are the benefits of celibacy?
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Post by Henka on May 16, 2012 18:04:59 GMT 9.5
What are the benefits of celibacy? None whatsoever, pretty foolish, I think.
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Post by paul on May 17, 2012 8:25:58 GMT 9.5
If the focus of energy needs to be moved from the sacral chakra, then it may be useful to reduce sexual activity for a time.
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Post by paul on May 17, 2012 10:03:33 GMT 9.5
I have met someone with whom the connection exists from outside the solar system. I am not sure that I would call that twin flames - more like "partners in crime" Human souls exist within hierarchical groups and are not as separable as appears to the brain consciousness. It is certainly possible for those groups to work out their agendas through human couples and this can provide very intense experiences on various levels. Perhaps some of those experiences are flame-like. An obvious example of management of group outworkings is the Chinese tradition of keeping the ancestors happy so that they do not adversely affect those in incarnation. I have myself experienced such impacts, both pleasant and unpleasant.
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Post by stewartedwards on May 17, 2012 21:19:17 GMT 9.5
Now that is an interesting observation Paul. As you may know my wife and I have some quite opposing views on a range of things to do with global and political affairs. And our energies and their development are somewhat interesting, at least to me. And we have this year been together for 25 years (married 21).
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Post by LorrB on May 18, 2012 10:53:53 GMT 9.5
Cave of the Heart - the Centre from which Masons cannot err ?
I liked your take on Lust and the Priesthood, foxfires, and the knowledge fast idea as well.
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Post by cwhite on May 19, 2012 2:40:32 GMT 9.5
The birds and the bees...
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Post by paul on May 19, 2012 17:02:04 GMT 9.5
...there is a nature calling for all creatures here above and beyond what is commonly understood. ... This is reflected in the human expression: to fall pregnant. This suggests that there is a force like gravity that induces humans to become pregnant. The same elemental entity can be observed at the birth. The entity is vastly stronger than the human mother and may kill her in its determination that the child will be born. There are however higher plane entities that induce human sexual activity including ancestors, sponsors from on high, and flow of Creation itself. Some entities however have dark agendas as demonstrated by the contagious nature of sexual abuse.
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Post by cwhite on May 20, 2012 1:27:28 GMT 9.5
The birds and the bees... The birds and the bees generally make their homes in trees... Mark 4:30-32 And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? 31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: 32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. Sorry, trailed off a bit. Didn't mean to shake anyones tree...
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Post by cwhite on May 20, 2012 2:27:30 GMT 9.5
The birds and the bees... The birds and the bees generally make their homes in trees... Mark 4:30-32 And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? 31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: 32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. Sorry, trailed off a bit. Didn't mean to shake anyones tree... Zech 4:1-14 Oops, did it again...
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Post by paul on May 20, 2012 6:44:50 GMT 9.5
... As lust is the primeval force keeping the engine of life running.... Are you sure this is true? Do animals experience lust? If not, what is their primeval force? Perhaps lust is what appears in humans when the primeval force is expressed through imperfect personalities.
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Post by paul on May 20, 2012 6:51:59 GMT 9.5
I do not personally feel there are dark forces from my perspective..... Under the concept of Tsimtsum, Light may be seen as in-breath to the Source while Dark is the out-breath to manifest density and separation. Both occur simultaneously in the manifested Creation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TzimtzumIn the Christian context Tsimtsum may be referred to as The Revelation of the Word. You may like to read Spirit Releasement Therapy by a dentist who used to hypnotise his patients. It is arguably the best account of how to deal with dark entities. www.amazon.com/Spirit-Releasement-Therapy-Technique-Manual/dp/092991516XHis daughter runs this site. www.spiritreleasement.org/NSITE/index.htmlIn the Jewish tradition there were various earlier creations that were unbalanced hence the repeated checking in Genesis to ensure that each stage was good.
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Post by paul on May 20, 2012 7:03:03 GMT 9.5
... Luke 12:10 But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. ... This is an interesting theological construct. Why would blaspheming against one particular member of the Trinity be such an issue? Theologically it seems that the concept of the Holy Spirit is derived from the Shekinah. The word Shekinah can be translated as: she who dwells in a tent. When the god of Israel, who lived in a tabernacle (tent) in the desert departed from the Jews he left his female consort behind for quite some time. She was known as the Glory of the Lord. This is similar to the modern saying: His better half. Eventually she left too. This constituted a problem for the priests: what to do when there was no god in residence. So the presence of the Glory of the Lord was translated into a metaphysical concept of a disembodied spirit (Shekinah) that remained to guide, even thought the goddess was no longer visible to humans. The same problem occurs with the departure of Jesus: how to maintain a presence for the faithful.
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Post by cwhite on May 20, 2012 7:03:30 GMT 9.5
There are passages in various theologies of higher entities that succumbed to lust, at a higher price usually. Sumerian and Hebrew theologies immediately come to mind.
Maybe the higher the kingdom, the more difficult it is to properly channel that energy?
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