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Post by paul on Dec 19, 2023 14:15:46 GMT 9.5
The Apsu/Abyss is the freshwater underworld ocean known to the Sumerians and only recently detected by modern humans "There's as much water inside the earth as there is in all of the oceans. That's the conclusion that scientists are reaching after a 2014 discovery planted the seed of the idea." www.discovery.com/science/Massive-Ocean-Beneath-Earths-Surfacewww.dnaindia.com/science/report-shocker-researchers-uncover-gigantic-ocean-near-earth-s-core-2989449My forum avatar shows Enki standing next to one of the fountains of the deep referenced in the Old Testament The key is in the work of Thomas Gold www.amazon.com.au/Deep-Hot-Biosphere-Fossil-Fuels/dp/0387952535The bugs that turn geologic methane into longer chain hydrocarbons, then oil then coal, produce water as a byproduct and sulphide ions that precipitate metals. Thus one process gives endless hydrocarbon fuels, endless freshish water and endless deposits of metal ores. Who would have organized that? Where there is a shortage of sulphates, the bugs get their oxygen from nitrates. In that case the nitride ions combine to form N2 gas. As I recall, in Hungary there is sometimes 50% nitrogen in shale gas, so that it will not burn Then of course you will wonder why the surface oceans are salty when the much bigger underworld ocean is fresh. Welcome to human science. Here is Lloyd Pye explaining that "everything you know is wrong" www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr3QiS5-aJMWhile he deals with human biology, the proposition is more widely true |
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Post by stewartedwards on Dec 19, 2023 14:59:54 GMT 9.5
Enki and Enlil were Sumerian Gods. Sitchins books offer an insight, eg “Wars of Gods and Men” but the whole series are interesting. Their energies still resonate in our world today. I dearly hope that you are correct theancienthuman rebalanced reillumination in our lifetime would be a wonder. A quarter of a century ago I thought it possible, and I tried hard to help this occur, maybe I am just too cynical nowadays. You really cannot trust historical dates but, from about 3000 BCE to 400 CE Enki and Enlil? This would suggest when Sennacherib's (Assyrian) failed siege of Jerusalem in 720 B.E it began their down fall. In that siege, Mesopotamian mythology impaled thousands of humans. It is said that the death and blacked bodies created a mouse plague that infected the Assyrian army into defeat. It is hard to ascertain light. This also coincides with Western (Rome) infiltration from 753 B.C. to 395 A.D. Your thoughts? . For instance, how would you separate Enki and Enlil from modern mankind applying a similar conjure to the Apocalypse along with the fear, smear and false labeling that comes with it? 1. I agree dates are to be taken with a pinch of salt theancienthuman. Especially when translated from one calendar to another. I look at Enki and Enlil like this… 2. The legendary brothers who saw humanity different. That is also reflected in other ancient accounts iirc. Caring for v cattle. 3. In a way I see those energies a bit like the angel of conscience v the daemon of desire, that affects each and every one of us. Not a problem and a valuable learning took, until it spills into power, when civilisations can rise and fall, as power does tend to corrupt due to yes men, egos, desire not to lose power, etc. 4. Just now our world has insufficient Enki energy and too much Enlil energy. If as Paul suggests Enlil has been banished this planets future should be secure for the foreseeable future, though in time is likely to unbalance by going too far into the light. Hence for me case closed. 5. I tend to look at global issues through such lenses, as they help me understand what is happenening as the US cedes hedgemony to China, and as other global issues develop. 6. I am not very apocalyptic myself, for all our world needs is for every nation to become a bit nicer. Fantasyland I know. If we as a species can’t manage it, I am confident that powers above will force it, again perhaps through genetics. 7. Enki, caring, nurturing. Enlil, greed, desire for power etc. They have just got out of balance again. |
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Post by sammy on Dec 19, 2023 23:10:29 GMT 9.5
If you refer to divine intervention as the "powers that be" they cannot interfere with the will of humans. If we decide to destroy ourselves that will just be what happened.
Side note.. not the first alpha species to do so to their home planet. Survivors will be seen as refugees (not a good life).
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 20, 2023 0:28:45 GMT 9.5
You really cannot trust historical dates but, from about 3000 BCE to 400 CE Enki and Enlil? This would suggest when Sennacherib's (Assyrian) failed siege of Jerusalem in 720 B.E it began their down fall. In that siege, Mesopotamian mythology impaled thousands of humans. It is said that the death and blacked bodies created a mouse plague that infected the Assyrian army into defeat. It is hard to ascertain light. This also coincides with Western (Rome) infiltration from 753 B.C. to 395 A.D. Your thoughts? . For instance, how would you separate Enki and Enlil from modern mankind applying a similar conjure to the Apocalypse along with the fear, smear and false labeling that comes with it? 6. I am not very apocalyptic myself, for all our world needs is for every nation to become a bit nicer. Darkness illuminated in awareness: Inn further thinking, the universe is not made up of more dark than light, that is deception and incorrect. For an example, when you look up at the stars; pick one, envision it in the center of a sphere, no matter where you directly look at that star in the universe, its light pierces the dark (such as repeating life). Therefore, just from one star, source, all of the universe is light. Darkness’s existence only hides in shadows behind hosts or objects to survive. Perhaps that is why God assigned star light to reflect in all directions. The nature of darkness is pierced by light, opposite from the current Sphere of Destiny (unholy lance). Nice is only a passive word in a world of only rightfulness and wrongfulness. |
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 20, 2023 1:08:40 GMT 9.5
If you refer to divine intervention as the "powers that be" they cannot interfere with the will of humans. If we decide to destroy ourselves that will just be what happened. Side note.. not the first alpha species to do so to their home planet. Survivors will be seen as refugees (not a good life). Powers that be cannot intervene, they already have. There is a purge coming against God given Free-Will and nations/worlds collective. There will be no refugees, there is nowhere to run. |
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 20, 2023 1:21:36 GMT 9.5
Paul, I'd call it The Hydrosphere of Noah to add a spiritual connection. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Dec 20, 2023 3:59:17 GMT 9.5
Nice is only a passive word in a world of only rightfulness and wrongfulness. Our world is full of shades of Gray, theancienthuman. The most obvious example being illustrated by the well worn phrase, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Right and wrong are dependent on the laws and morals of a nation at a specific point in time. When I was young it was considered wrong to display yourself naked to everyone, nowadays many women make a lot of money on Onlyfans. Are they wrong, when society says it’s ok, are they right when they use that money to feed their family? Is China right or wrong to claim most of the South China Sea? China says yes as they have a historic claim. International law and bordering nations say it is wrong. Right and wrong are relative. Being a bit nicer every year is progress everyone can agree on. Being nice is one of the most active things any of us can do, in a positive way. |
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 21, 2023 1:54:32 GMT 9.5
stewartedwards:
As you have said, the meaning of words in-time have different narration. I faced that experience in an event that happened today. I went to a coin car wash to baptize my car and wash away its sin. I put up fist full of quarters next to the coin feed to insure I would not stop cycle before completion. I finished with roughly $3.00 in change left over. After reloading the car mats, I forgot to grab my change. I realized this in less then a block away. When I left there was no one else there. I circled back around to find two young kids in the wash-stall I just left soaping their truck. As I approached them the kid washing his truck immediately walk over and added in the quarters from the same arrangement I left them. He denied the quarters were mine. I could have easily smashed them both. I used a couple of choice phrases such as, what comes around goes around instead of old school action. Decided to be nice and walk away from the principle. Seems I grasped on to the old meaning of nice. Being nice and a better man or turning a blind eye gave them a pass to keep doing whats not right. A groomed problem that turned against me. Nice, compassion, trust are being redefined by the wizards of darkness along with the words marriage, family, education etc. These kids fill the very definition of Enki who killed his forefather while he slept. Apsu died because the aforementioned words were simply redefined. I have evolved with the time. You mentioned refugees, if they did not flee their numbers would fix the dark dilemma. Now the Middle Eastern refugees are lighting the world on fire. |
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 22, 2023 5:53:32 GMT 9.5
Enki and Enlil were Sumerian Gods. Sitchins books offer an insight, eg “Wars of Gods and Men” but the whole series are interesting. Their energies still resonate in our world today. I dearly hope that you are correct theancienthuman rebalanced reillumination in our lifetime would be a wonder. A quarter of a century ago I thought it possible, and I tried hard to help this occur, maybe I am just too cynical nowadays. Stewartedwards, I want to thank you for your introduction to the Anunnaki. Awareness is a great thing, for me, it is just old Babylon that still has the Middle East on fire. The same remnants that removed the Persian King Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in 1979 and, the same who the dark elite are now trying to breath life into at Burning Man in the Black Rock Desert, Pershing County, Nevada. I am old Persian by default and the Anunnaki script invoked more darkness in me than light. The same darkness conjugates inside while reading about Alexander the Great and Western influence. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Dec 22, 2023 6:03:26 GMT 9.5
Theancienthuman we all have both darkness and light within us. The struggle is to realise this, balance it, then harness it without wobbling too far in the future.
This is why…
1. Power corrupts even good men.
2. Nazi executioners could gas people while being caring fathers and husbands.
3. An awareness of such things is beneficial.
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Post by stewartedwards on Dec 22, 2023 6:05:10 GMT 9.5
Quite frankly theancienthuman knowing this scares the begeevies out of me, for I am aware that if I were in a position of earthly human power I would have to be very careful. But I am not so it is academic.
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Post by sammy on Dec 22, 2023 11:28:27 GMT 9.5
A good perspective for the thoughts here.. I tip my hat to you both.
How I see this all..
The Annunaki originally, a mix of species and races. Who some would call angels and demons. All under the same agenda.. a united front toward peace and a prosperous future for all who live (life goes way beyond our understanding of it).
More or less.. balance. Perhaps one could use "what's best" but surely not right and wrong. A broken logic in their eyes. No individual should have more power over another more than anyone else (accountability). Also no power should have more than any other.
Over time.. slipping on these rules of engagement almost undid their entire council. They exist not to be just rules or stogey rubs.. but because without it is chaos. What you have heard in stories about pandora's box. Any living entity will do what they think is best regardless of outside influence to the contrary. In most cases as just survival instincts when confronted with an unknown shadowed by fear.
Alot of natural designs and structures hold truths sometimes even beyond words. Our truth exists regardless of what we call it or theorize beyond..
We are here.. and always have been. The change was how we see it. More to the point the memory of it.. a beginning and end. The onset of time. A punishment on the human species because of choices long ago. Abusing and enslaving other races and also trying to hide it.
Regardless of anything it does seam that we are "starting" to learn that lesson.. atleast.
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 25, 2023 1:33:36 GMT 9.5
Theancienthuman we all have both darkness and light within us. The struggle is to realise this, balance it, then harness it without wobbling too far in the future. Quite frankly theancienthuman knowing this scares the begeevies out of me, for I am aware that if I were in a position of earthly human power I would have to be very careful. But I am not so it is academic. I consider it dusk darkness that steadily takes over light. Since you use world events, take for instance Russia’s allegiance with Iran. Russia's president has a picture of Alexander the Great idolized on his wall, which was the Western infiltration that destroyed our Middle East for the last two thousand years. Darkness thrives in ignorance. Or, the Chinese world purchased influence that reaches into the dark much further than the Black Sea. The dusk darkness comes comes at the end of each day whether we like it or not. No utopia, enlightenment etc. can ever change that outcome. At twilight when eyes slowly adjust to the approaching dark and; as light is plunged into darkness, it WILL rise the light of the next day. At each dawn, light always balances itself. |
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Post by theancienthuman on Dec 25, 2023 1:35:01 GMT 9.5
A good perspective for the thoughts here.. I tip my hat to you both. How I see this all.. The Annunaki originally, a mix of species and races. Who some would call angels and demons. All under the same agenda.. a united front toward peace and a prosperous future for all who live (life goes way beyond our understanding of it). More or less.. balance. Perhaps one could use "what's best" but surely not right and wrong. A broken logic in their eyes. No individual should have more power over another more than anyone else (accountability). Also no power should have more than any other. In most cases as just survival instincts when confronted with an unknown shadowed by fear. Abusing and enslaving other races and also trying to hide it. Regardless of anything it does seam that we are "starting" to learn that lesson.. atleast. The Anunnaki: After viewing some of the sources from which are promoting alien introduction, I see it more as black ops (they should be retrained) or darkness PSYOP soldiering light. You can easily see the agenda undermining humanity and its achievements (became to brazen). After all, if we can be convinced that the ancient world let's say the 7 wonders or any of its past societies was not human intellect and its past darkness was only its, our heritage, then you as a host becomes easier to recondition or groom. This statement is not meant to offend but rather further thought. I will always adapt my view if someone can make a better point. Expressing views is how we all learn to grow either in light or dark. I also disagree, right or wrong is the moral definition of dark and light as the Light from the Book of Books sacrificed to be lessened. That cannot be broken ed from its devoted. In reality, no individual has power over the next, that is projected unto the weak. All see the war bellows puffing up its shadow of fear as its shadow is only seen behind light. Morals always have to be redefined to unmoral its citizens as currently seen. |
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