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Post by mgc on Jul 16, 2010 23:59:59 GMT 9.5
just like 1 snowflake is similar to the next, but unique in its own right.. it is shaped by the same fundamental laws but develops according to the surrounding conditions.. this is applicable to just about anything..
to predict a development, ud need to understand the law and the conditions..
can the law be deducted by comparing fundamental forms?
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2010 8:18:12 GMT 9.5
can the law be deducted by comparing fundamental forms? That rather depends upon what is meant by a "law" and by "fundamental forms". Undoubtedly regular relationships can be detected by observation and those tend to be known in physics and chemistry as laws. But of course they are only regular relationships that may not hold in other contexts. For example Newtons law of universal gravitation en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation is not quite so universal. His gravitational constant turns out to vary quite a lot "The official CODATA value for G in 1986 was given as G= (6,67259±0.00085)x10-11 m3Kg-1s-2 and was based on the Luther and Towler determination in 1982. However, the value of G has been recently called into question by new measurements from respected research teams in Germany, New Zealand, and Russia in order to try to settle this issue. The new values using the best laboratory equipment to-date disagreed wildly to the point that many are doubting about the constancy of this parameter and some are even postulating entirely new forces to explain these gravitational anomalies. " And that ignores known gravitational anomalies at various sites on the Earth And the identification of "fundamental forms" may require use of the law itself. The meta-physicist may, however, have direct means of detecting fundamental forms and laws before they reflect into flawed matter. Perhaps then we rely on scientists to be inspired from on high in their work
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Post by mgc on Jul 17, 2010 10:21:02 GMT 9.5
a fundamental form to me is, for xample, the original forms of "things" that r in essence the same, but appear different depending on the conditions they developed under..
consider "the family" as a fundamental form.. the law behind the snowflake being similar, is that frozen watermolecules organise in certain patterns.. can u xtrapolate this to a human being in relation to family?
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2010 11:18:59 GMT 9.5
Fundamental form may not be quite the best concept here. Perhaps fundamental function is better.
For example, if we knew the fundamental function of humanity then we might recognise it even with a silicon-based physical structure or with no physical form at all.
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Post by mgc on Jul 17, 2010 21:23:36 GMT 9.5
it is far easier to determine form than to determine function.. however, form and function often go hand in hand..
have a look at the "life" cycle of a water molecule.. what does this form say about its function?
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Post by paul on Jul 19, 2010 20:12:15 GMT 9.5
I am familiar with the 3D shape of a water molecule. What do you deduce from that?
Would it also hold for H2S - the next heavier analogue?
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Post by mgc on Jul 20, 2010 8:52:01 GMT 9.5
just in case, what i mean by "form" is not the same as "shape"..
the shape of a watemolecule? mmm... bipedal symmetrical in 2 axes
it forms according to the laws of chemistry and develops according to the conditions.. knowing those, i can safely predict water will turn solid at t<0
this form is similar to h2s which has a much lower meltingpoint and a liquid state window of 22 degrees.. the fact it behaves similar supports the (already known) laws..
can we compare it to something there is no known law for?
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Post by paul on Jul 20, 2010 10:56:18 GMT 9.5
It is perhaps better to visualise the water molecule in 3D - as a tetrahedron deformed by the H atoms
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Post by mgc on Jul 20, 2010 23:43:15 GMT 9.5
ud need it to be h3o if u want it to make a tetrahedron..
perhaps ur talking about more then 1 molecule?
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Post by paul on Jul 21, 2010 7:20:25 GMT 9.5
The H2O molecule has 2H atoms and 2 projecting electron clouds making a distorted tetrahedron
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Post by mgc on Jul 21, 2010 21:28:29 GMT 9.5
do u have a picture? what did u do with the oxygen ?
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Post by paul on Jul 22, 2010 6:55:38 GMT 9.5
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Post by mgc on Jul 22, 2010 13:35:27 GMT 9.5
no dice
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 14:10:44 GMT 9.5
So Paul Ive decided to Kidnap this topic as it almost pertains to where i left off on the other post(Simulations) that I took off topics so... Aug 29, 2020 23:37:55 GMT -4 paul said: In Old Testament times the various gods used their humans to fight wars on their behalf. It is not clear that the situation has changed. www.amazon.com/gp/product/0939680882/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0939680882&linkCode=as2&tag=jansitchshomepag&linkId=OBDOQIEI2KIAZ3CJ--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >It is not clear that the situation has changed. I have a friend of mine from passed years who has just celebrated his 9th anniversary of being raised. He posted a meme(picture with words) on facebook saying: "It's nearly about that time for good men to do bad things". His post and this one brings to memory a recently read passage from the Kolbrin bible regarding a task set for those "above and below". "SOF:3:3 The brotherhood is separated into two parts. There is an Earthly Brotherhood, and though it may be small in numbers and have few possessions, this will not always be so. There is also a Heavenly Brotherhood comprising certain of the Twice Born and their followers who have gone before. Their task is to clear the Netherworld of demons and dark spirits and to prepare the way for those who follow. They are like men who enter a new country and must clear it of wild beasts and bring the land under control. It is the task of those above and those below to build a road joining the two territories." For me, there are certain connections. >The brotherhood is separated into two parts. Could these two parts be the two paths of the brotherhood from the Kolbrin after the decent of the mountain led by who I can only assume was Moses? "SOF:3:2 We are companions on the Great Path of the True Way, and when an instructing brother speaks of the Great Path of the True Way, he speaks of a double path. The Companions of the Right Hand are those who bear the burdens of earthly labour and advancement, for they require strength, dexterity and steadiness. The Companions of the Left Hand are those who bear the burdens of spiritual labour and enlightenment, things closer to the heart of man." I can not learn enough of this. Though I fear that I may be too late for the cause.
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Post by paul on Aug 30, 2020 15:33:49 GMT 9.5
The Kolbrin seems to me to be very focussed on humans and on this planet. Is this planet so important in this particular universe. Are Earth humans so important in this universe?
By some accounts more than 80 species of aliens are currently present on this planet. Do they have no place in the scriptures?
The distinction between right and left paths is ok, but bear in mind that those humans properly on the dark path assist the Universal Logos to grasp matter more closely. They too have valid function.
Humans improperly drawn on to the dark path are near the bottom of an unpleasant food chain.
>I fear that I may be too late for the cause
Fear not. As you can see, globally there is a major economic reset occurring, and it may turn out well.
This reset is arguably the result of a reset in the higher dimensions of the solar system - impacting humanity most clearly after 1995. Humans born here after then have a much sharper perception of human functional responsibilities to the planet
And the reset in the solar system is now being impacted by a reset in the cluster of solar systems - whereby a brother from Andromeda has arrived to put some backbone (intent) into the group of solar systems.
There is much to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 21:21:38 GMT 9.5
>The Kolbrin seems to me to be very focused on humans and on this planet. Is this planet so important in this particular universe. Are Earth humans so important in this universe?
Humans being used to fight battles of good and evil? Yeah I would say that they are important enough to use for the "intentions" of whomever is setting events in motion. Perhaps there is something special about the human race after all. I'm trying to understand the point of it all. Even though I know I have no right to question my creator or his plans but I desire to know what they hell I have to do while I'm here and it(the answer) would appear at times a great distance just out of reach. It just seems that there is so much I'm missing that I must come to understand. The eluding answers are all so intriguing to say the least.
>impacting humanity most clearly after 1995. Humans born here after then have a much sharper perception of human functional responsibilities to the planet
I can not see this, but I will take your word for it. hahahahaha.
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Post by paul on Aug 31, 2020 5:57:01 GMT 9.5
> “I looked for someone among them who I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it,
Any idea what this means?
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Post by paul on Aug 31, 2020 7:25:54 GMT 9.5
Why was the Lord obliged to destroy the land if Moses did not oppose him?
How could a human stand in a gap and oppose the creator of the universe?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 11:04:09 GMT 9.5
(KJV) Ezekiel {22:30} And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. {22:31} Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.
>{22:31} Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath:
I recall someone else that had the ability to "Baptize with fire"
Matthew: {3:11} I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
I feel that the force or means of which they wore accepted and taught was "the fire" and i feel that when he "poured our his indignation(anger fury) I beleive that he meant that the passion in which he baptized (trained/taught) was almost a fury of sorts as to say, there was nothing more than this that was more important to the master.?
>have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD. clearly that's the 3rd eye opening through his assistance. A just reward for such a difficult training process that we each must endure.
Is this not the explanation of an apology of sorts? Also the explanation of placing or activating the 3rd eye. Baptize = to train, Train in fire? Moses trained and taught in the waters of Jordan to utilize energies perhaps and Jesus much like "the father" taught through fire....heated energies perhaps? I'm just running off at the spout here but some things click and some don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 21:53:56 GMT 9.5
>Earth runs out of clean water in 19 years.
Technology is a beast isn't it. This is why we are here. Together we can take these problems and work at them.....somehow. lol
"Waters from the heavens" I had an associate explaining to me this very same difficult task we face the other day. I told him "waters from the heavens." It is not a permanent fix but I meditated on this and almost immediately came to a a life saving solution. Do not get me wrong. This idea is still in the works, but hear me out.
A refrigerator requires electricity(perhaps even solar one day) which is not too big of an issue as of yet. So on these components are composed of condensation/cooling (copper)lines which seemingly pulls water directly out of thin air. Imagine it as if sitting a frozen bottle of water outside how it draws condensation out of nowhere.
Now imagine a created system that brought water to a chilling point to create condensation(water)and a heating partition of sorts that heated the cooling lines producing liquids. Perhaps even saltwater even though it can not freeze to some extent it could be brought down to cooling temperatures to produce condensation. Could this flood us with water? Of course not. could it be life saving, why the hell not. This thought came into my mind in a few moments of thought. I have less than a 10th grade education....imagine what a genius could do if they really/only tried. Gents have a blessed day i am off to play in the poopy!
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