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Post by sc on Jul 2, 2020 18:33:03 GMT 9.5
Upon my brow my hand doth rest. Not of common folk am I.
Long Puzzling thoughts circle in me makes of my elbow ache.
Ponder, I ponder, I. ponder I and a bit more.
This puzzles answer lays somewhere amidst these circles of mine.
One fourth , one fifth one sixth and one score more.
Yet I find that the answer is one third and a tiny bit more.
Ponder I these puzzles until they trouble me no more.
S.C
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Post by paul on Jul 2, 2020 20:09:58 GMT 9.5
In the bath?
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Post by sc on Jul 2, 2020 22:15:48 GMT 9.5
Not quiet that was regarding volume and buoyancy.
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Post by sammy on Jul 3, 2020 2:03:28 GMT 9.5
Awesome! Love it! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by sc on Jul 3, 2020 13:51:27 GMT 9.5
The ratio 3.141 (Pi) is the measure of a circle
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Post by paul on Jul 3, 2020 14:03:19 GMT 9.5
So a circular bath
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Post by sc on Jul 3, 2020 14:44:59 GMT 9.5
He also found (rediscovered) Pi. Ponder I , Ponder I , Ponder I. As to mean Pi, Pi, Pi.
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Post by sammy on Jul 10, 2020 2:26:11 GMT 9.5
He also found (rediscovered) Pi. Ponder I , Ponder I , Ponder I. As to mean Pi, Pi, Pi. 3 circular baths? hehe why 3 circles?
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Post by sc on Jul 14, 2020 11:17:50 GMT 9.5
Ponder i is said 3 times to represent the number( 3 )and a little bit more represents (.141) to make the ratio 3.141 or as its called Pi. "Ponder i " as to mean i am pondering but with a double meaning for "Pi" if you take the capital "P" from Ponder and the letter "i" and put them together
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Post by paul on Jul 14, 2020 12:05:09 GMT 9.5
Pythagoras tells us that the numbers are alive.
I took notice of that when I used to build computer models of the national economy. Sometimes the economic gestalt would object to particularly atrocious equations by pressing on my emotional and mental bodies.
When I put my attention to numbers now:
- Low integers feel strong and simple, while higher integers feel like a community of integers - Fractions (rational numbers) feel like two communities of integers - Irrational numbers are like circular communities. E.g. sqrt(2) is approximately a simple circle but cubert(2) is circular with an inner structure - Transcendental numbers such as Pi and e seem linear as a circumference of an infinite circle - Imaginary numbers such as sqrt(-1) seem to fill a 2D plane
From this I deduce that there must be more types of number to be discovered, e.g. filling n-space
>"P" from Ponder
If numbers exist as intelligent entities, what are their functions in the cosmos?
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Post by sc on Jul 15, 2020 1:32:27 GMT 9.5
Their function is order. Even chaos theory makes order from disorder by making sense by its seaming randomness of its own chaos, however we find a pattern in chaos which is its constant attempt to order its self after endless attempts where by its probability of succeeding increases as time passes toward its potential out come which is order. Just as we do with our own lifes. It is refinement. Number are very much alive.
Take also the Riemann hypothesis. Where the value "s" is equal to 1/2 for all complex numbers to infinity. Not only does "s" have to equal 1/2 but also for the negative even integers -2, -4, -6 to negative infinity as well again for the positive integers "n" or 1, 2, 3 ect. All of which really when it comes down to it , is its graph which "square root of (-1) " which on the scale it boils down to be represented by 2Pi. Thats 3 directions for the one equation or sum. Yet it goes one step further as the Riemann hypothesis is the key to solving the Prime number therum. Again number are alive .
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Post by paul on Jul 15, 2020 6:46:43 GMT 9.5
>Their function is order.
It certainly looks that way from a human perspective, but if you were are a Being about to generate a universe as your body of incarnation, at what stage would you need numbers?
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Post by sc on Jul 15, 2020 14:19:41 GMT 9.5
It is some what paradoxical the nature of number as they are alive yet not as they reflect life. As most things have measure. Which is generally how we first understand the nature of an object we investigate. Though, if we create mentally are we any different to any other higher being. The difference i see being the knowledge known by one to opperate with a different opperation (or degree) of the (cosmic) LAW.
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Post by paul on Jul 15, 2020 16:57:31 GMT 9.5
As I visualize the formation of the universe, the Entity starts with intent to manifest, then produces heart warmth (subtle substance) and then produces a myriad of organizing entities that we call numbers. The numbers cluster and draw in the heart substance to form bodies of manifestation for lesser entities, eventually including humans
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Post by sc on Jul 15, 2020 21:02:51 GMT 9.5
It would interesting to note a strange numerical occurrence happens in string theory by Michio kaku. If was found to produce internet code under deeper analysis. Leading to people saying that we live in a matrix .
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Post by paul on Jul 16, 2020 9:05:44 GMT 9.5
If numbers are alive, do some numbers like you and others not? What sort of effects might you see?
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Post by sc on Jul 16, 2020 21:47:57 GMT 9.5
Are you suggesting that numbers are entities ?
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2020 6:39:46 GMT 9.5
>Are you suggesting that numbers are entities ?
What else could Pythagoras mean by saying that numbers are alive?
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Post by sc on Jul 17, 2020 19:14:59 GMT 9.5
I hadnt thought of them as acutal entities. I would agree with Pythagoras that they alive however they are alive through us. I see that they reflect life by way of measuring life and things. A number having intelligence its self ( if i understand your question correctly)i personally wouldnt go as far as to say that.
An example of what is ment is. When we clenche our hands to make a fist. The spiral pattern that is made by our index finger and thumb, is a representaion of the golden ratio. (1.618034) . The Fibonnaci sequence is found in these two fingers. The thumb has 2 knuckles and the index finger has 3 knuckles. 2+3=5. 2,3, and 5 are the first 3 numbers of the Fibonnaci sequence.
It is found in life and nature, it reflects life and nature , they move with us. They are apart of us, Though not us. Paradoxical but not a contradiction of statement.
On another point numbers are associated with entities which we are well aware. Holding both power and meaning applyed to a number. Unlocking and locking much knowledge.
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2020 20:31:50 GMT 9.5
>I would agree with Pythagoras that they alive however they are alive through us. So if humans did not exist then numbers would not be alive? "decades of research have provided evidence for the numerical abilities of a number of species, including gorillas, rhesus, capuchin, and squirrel monkeys, lemurs, dolphins, elephants, birds, salamanders and fish. Recently, researchers from Oakland University in Michigan added black bears to the list of the numerically skilled. But the real maths wizards of the animal kingdom are the ants of the Tunisian desert (Cataglyphis fortis). They count both arithmetic and geometry as parts of their mathematical toolkit." www.bbc.com/future/article/20121128-animals-that-can-countThey have missed bees. Bees instruct others as to the direction and distance of food, even when the sun is obscured. The out-going bees take only enough honey to get to the source. If they miss the source they have to walk home. Perhaps humans are not, after all, the center of Existence
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