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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2019 6:04:04 GMT 9.5
>Is there a height of immobilization where there is nothing, no vibrations/sound, no light except for an outline of faint light
There is a standard expression: Entering the silence.
When the human turns inward and stills the physical, emotional and mental bodies there is a stillness and commonly a silence. Having stilled the personality the human can look into the rest of Existence/Creation. If the human is looking on planes on which s/he has not developed the inner senses, then the experience is of silence, stillness and darkness.
If the human perseveres for long enough, s/he will develop the required inner senses and the silence will be seen to be vibrant and full of sound, light and life.
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2019 9:34:17 GMT 9.5
>neutralize the threat u pose to Peaceful ppl
Peaceful or asleep?
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2019 9:39:39 GMT 9.5
>U remember this story I recall reading that the Nazis had a secret base near the north pole that was never made public after WW2. It may still have been functional as a result of Operation Paperclip or for the dark state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PaperclipIt was never entirely clear for whom those Nazi scientists in the US were working.
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Post by paul on Feb 19, 2019 8:15:36 GMT 9.5
>forcing ur way into shambala
I seem to recall Roerich writing that no one can enter Shambhala until he receives the message: The way is open!
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Post by theancienthuman on Feb 19, 2019 23:47:48 GMT 9.5
What numerology do you think they used?
The Kalachakra Tantra contains five chapters: the first concerns the external cycles of time, the second the internal cycles, and the last three the alternative cycles.
It is noteworthy that the root tantra was in eighty-one sections, while the abridged tantra condensed it into thirty-two abridged points.
Shambhala means “the source of bliss,” referring to the clear-light mind.
How was this status achieved? Thru ratio'ed mathematics
Getting out of this mind set and looking outside the box is the next step in my organic evolution. This from the heart.
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Post by paul on Feb 20, 2019 6:12:44 GMT 9.5
>What numerology do you think they used? In my view the symbolism of numerology misses the real action. The numbers are alive (according to Pythagoras) accordingly it is best to relate to them as intelligent beings. >Shambhala means “the source of bliss,” referring to the clear-light mind. It is better perhaps to consider Shambhala as a community of elevated spiritual beings, some of which were originally human, whose activities are largely directed to the proper outworking of Divine Intent for this planet. >How was this status achieved? For humans this requires long work over many lives, to develop, purify and control their light bodies within the 7 planes of Existence (actually the 7 subplanes of the Cosmic Physical Plane). Further, these humans, to become members of Shambhalla, have chosen cosmic paths not normally chosen by Earth humans. These roles are quite specialized, so most Earth humans, when they are free of incarnation, move out into the Cosmos rather than remaining with this planet. See July 19 post a406.proboards.com/thread/1636/mild-activity-after-raising?page=2>Getting out of this mind set and looking outside the box is the next step in my organic evolution. This from the heart. Quite so. It is heart function that is required to reach beyond the mind to achieve the first stage of spiritual enlightenment in humans. The Flame in the Heart exercise is very efficient for the first stages of heart function. The 21 steps thread describes some of the more specialized heart functions.
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Post by elijah on Feb 20, 2019 11:23:19 GMT 9.5
with time and practice can the ''third eye'' be felt as a physical organ?? rather then a phenomenon which occurs threw the senses of sight...while incorporating the flame with other exercises it seems certain physiological process's have become more sensitive to attention...
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Post by paul on Feb 20, 2019 12:28:46 GMT 9.5
>can the ''third eye'' be felt as a physical organ
The energy flows operate on etheric levels and higher. It is certainly possible to feel the denser flows in that area of the brain, particularly if the flows are partially blocked.
With practice the faculty of sight can be developed on every sub-plane of every plane. Inner sight therefore is not necessarily associated with particular locations on the physical body, since the sub-plane energies are available at all locations. That said, the lower subplanes of the soul energy flow directly through that part of the head.
>.while incorporating the flame with other exercises it seems certain physiological process's have become more sensitive to attention...
The light from the flame energizes all physiological processes. Be careful about which exercises you choose. All spiritual and energy exercises operate within the aura of an over-lighting being. Some beings have agendas that are not consistent with human spiritual unfoldment. For example, some beings exist in (are) the energy of former times that are no longer relevant to most humans.
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Post by theancienthuman on Feb 23, 2019 2:55:40 GMT 9.5
With my background in the earlier post, to help have a better understanding of yours, I have to ask: How do you view light? Where or who does it come from? Cosmic purpose? Also, do you have a visual depiction of to sum questions? How do you define your being, purpose, origins and existence ? Do all of you view it the same? Or is what you see (the planes) the common bond? Keep in mind I am not familiar with some of your terminology when replying. This is a good place to invite any questions you would have about me. Don't let me down foxfires...
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Post by paul on Feb 23, 2019 7:08:19 GMT 9.5
>How do you view light? Consider the Tzimtzum - not very well explained here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TzimtzumThe Source of All radiates energy that gets darker and denser as it separates from the Source and manifests as Creation. At its extremity it is dark and material. At the same time the Source draws back to itself the dense matter so that it becomes lighter and more unified. This simultaneous process can be represented by the yin-yang symbol. All beings are comprised of a combination of out-breath and in-breath with the composition cycling with daily living etc. Thus the new born human has a preponderance of out-breath energies as it builds a physical body and drives its parents to care for it. When I first met the Tzimtzum it seemed to identify itself as "the revelation of the word". >How do you define your being, purpose, origins and existence The word define literally means to put limits/ends (fin) to something. While the Source may well put limits to my being, it is rather difficult for me to do so since the consciousness and awareness that I manifest are a small subset of that of which I am capable. It may be better to think in terms of swimming in the Cosmic Ocean. > Or is what you see (the planes) the common bond? The planes are a one dimensional mapping of Reality. Knowledge of the planes is useful for navigation and management of energies. Mathematics is a valid entry to Reality but like all entries it is necessary to step beyond to become an active player in Reality.
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Post by sammy on Feb 23, 2019 8:22:15 GMT 9.5
It's strange... I noticed we all talk of things in the same manner of speaking, but from different angles. The point, the goal, or destination I would say is the same one. How we each see it changes. If you are interested theancienthuman here is my story on this forum... link
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Post by paul on Feb 25, 2019 6:08:44 GMT 9.5
>see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey.
The term honey here refers to a spiritual energy. For example Job 38:31 KJV: Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades
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Post by elijah on Feb 25, 2019 9:50:45 GMT 9.5
>see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey. The term honey here refers to a spiritual energy. For example Job 38:31 KJV: Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades Pleiades seems to have a particular spiritual influence within the ''seven'' bodies of man.... (seeing others energy psychically is sometimes debilitating from normal human activities participation) to truly see things for what they are ... can this be considered using the third eye in my experience it's heart based with all the new agey stuff mushroom eating ,rapid breathing ,fasting ... are the hallucination and side effects... truly the work of the third eye as so many have claimed ...doesn't seem so imo... also heard that blowing open a third eye can slow down the process and can get one lost in a rabbit hole of pretty colors...
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Post by paul on Feb 25, 2019 17:06:41 GMT 9.5
>Pleiades seems to have a particular spiritual influence within the ''seven'' bodies of man....
It seems to me that the Pleiades energy relates to the Divine Mother for this arm of the galaxy.
>to truly see things for what they are ... can this be considered using the third eye in my experience it's heart based
I think you have several issues entwined here. In the Buddhist tradition only the Buddha can see reality. Symbolically that is a fair statement. For example, how would an Earth human know to interpret an event that is the outworking of solar karma?
The third eye operates in the upper subplanes of the mental. And yet, the function of sight can be established on any plane including that of the heart.
>with all the new agey stuff mushroom eating ,rapid breathing ,fasting ... are the hallucination and side effects
Quite so, and yet some users of LSD stated that the experience changed their entire lives - not that I recommend such experiences without a profound guide at hand.
>blowing open a third eye can slow down the process
Quite so but that was not what theancienthuman was suggesting.
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Post by theancienthuman on Feb 27, 2019 2:31:05 GMT 9.5
foxfires I do not need help walking amongst the G_d's, every human mathematically can. What I am starting to have reservations about, the charges have resulted in your being. Bigotry and arrogance on full display. A long walk through ancient theologies, defining source, how it applies to cosmic origin, G_d and conjuring oneself has lead me here. The term you used, emotional vampire type humanoid. Do you even understand the fair exchange (flow) of energy is the light. In another words, why is the development of higher conciseness a threat to your sanctuary, it is the sanctuary. Sweet love, NO, comic love. Your misguiding, I'd rather walk with you in betterment than against you. The balance is up to you. Paul, >The word define literally means to put limits/ends (fin) to something. While the Source may well put limits to my being, it is rather difficult for me to do so since the consciousness and awareness that I manifest are a small subset of that of which I am capable. An orphaned view in my opinion would seem have more limitations like a heavy topped tree. In another words, it is hard for me to fathom without roots in the physical soil. >The planes are a one dimensional mapping of Reality. Knowledge of the planes is useful for navigation and management of energies. My analogy is more of a Gimbal in parent to child relationships. Each orbit, one dimensional in whole multiple-dimensional. The bands in rotation defy physical gravity. This awareness has been very rewarding.
>Mathematics is a valid entry to Reality but like all entries it is necessary to step beyond to become an active player in Reality. How do you manage energy and focus without geometry? Has been at the core of all questions, thanks Sammy. What is your definition of an active player in Reality? Tzimtzum is an excellent example. Sammy, link, I love that thought from a quick glance at first page, look forward to reading the rest.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2019 8:54:18 GMT 9.5
>it is hard for me to fathom without roots in the physical soil.
Such a perspective is common across tree spirits that are now passing through the human kingdom in preparation to become, for example, a landscape deva.
>My analogy is more of a Gimbal in parent to child relationships.
I struggle to see the local set of universes as in a gimbal.
>How do you manage energy and focus without geometry?
There are 3 primary means to manage energy:
- Intelligence, e.g. rhythm and geometry - Love, e.g. right relationship with the entities using the energy as bodies of manifestation - Will, e.g. intent that drives substance and intelligences into organized patterns.
>What is your definition of an active player in Reality?
As you know, I am not much into definitions. I do like to see intelligences that step outside their kingdom of incarnation and start to operate at the next level of cosmic pattern/intent.
>Tzimtzum is an excellent example.
I found it allowed me to see many situations more clearly. For example, it now seems that planetary good and evil can be seen from another perspective as cosmic entities jostling for position.
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Post by theancienthuman on Feb 27, 2019 20:36:45 GMT 9.5
\>I struggle to see the local set of universes as in a gimbal. >- Intelligence, e.g. rhythm and geometry Well, in the way you see universes coming and going at the same point in mankind’s time. A gimbal/mobile(sculpture) mathematics is the only model that mathematically explains the abnormality wherein PHI is the result of rotation/expansion. Architects had a clear perspective. Phi belongs in a thread of its own. Lets take E=mc2 in this environment and apply it to philosophy. Why is it the result in zero vacuum? What is its anchor in creation? No less than one third of an equation. >- Will, e.g. intent that drives substance and intelligences into organized patterns. As a component of, I consider Will to be in the strength of the heart. >- Love, e.g. right relationship with the entities using the energy as bodies of manifestation Something new, never considered in part, only in the whole of humanity. >start to operate at the next level of cosmic pattern/intent. How do you define?
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Post by paul on Feb 28, 2019 5:59:11 GMT 9.5
> A gimbal/mobile(sculpture) mathematics is the only model that mathematically explains
Mathematics rather likes to have theorems to prove uniqueness.
>I consider Will to be in the strength of the heart.
In the Hindu tradition the spiritual will is associated with the next plane above heart function.
>> I do like to see intelligences that step outside their kingdom of incarnation and start to operate at the next level of cosmic pattern/intent.
The individual human may eventually transcend the consciousness of Earth humanity and start to function as a junior cosmic entity.
Some of these are aware of the flows of life force across, within, into and out of this planet and facilitate those flows.
Others are aware of the unfoldment of particular kingdoms of Creation and facilitate those processes and the inter-relationships of the kingdoms.
Yet others deal with the patterns coming into the planet within starlight.
Others may be dealing with planetary karma.
A few facilitate the outworking of solar and trans-solar intent.
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Post by theancienthuman on Mar 1, 2019 2:53:10 GMT 9.5
Paul
>Mathematics rather likes to have theorems to prove uniqueness. As a hobby, to re introduce ancient theorem to modern. >>I consider Will to be in the strength of the heart. This can share many configurations. >The individual human may eventually transcend the consciousness of Earth humanity and start to function as a junior cosmic entity. We are all entity’s of the cosmic fluidity, known or unknown. >Others are aware of the unfoldment of particular kingdoms of Creation and facilitate those processes and the inter-relationships of the kingdoms. Quite so >Yet others deal with the patterns coming into the planet within starlight. Plants (as well as other things) with focused starlight produce amazing properties. >Others may be dealing with planetary karma. Gluttons for punishment, the wizards of smart ground hog day. None of the above is wrong, they all link to higher being. foxfires Questions of thought,hmm Last Post. Anything that would earn four star of enlightening is to negative for myself. Enjoy
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Post by paul on Mar 1, 2019 6:01:17 GMT 9.5
>Plants (as well as other things) with focused starlight produce amazing properties.
I was out at midnight on New Year's eve in northern Scotland standing next to a tree I knew and it said that it had been fed twice - once from rain, and now that the clouds had cleared, it was being fed by the starlight.
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