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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2018 9:48:40 GMT 9.5
>everything in existence is explained within the Bible
That would be a pretty ambitious statement - and we would need to decide which was the definitive version.
For myself, having seen that much of Genesis is a simplified version of the Sumerian accounts (Abraham was from Sumer), I prefer the original.
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2018 9:58:13 GMT 9.5
Here is the outline of the shape of pyramid on dollar bill. There is certainly energy resonating with the geometric figure but it is not directly related to the Grail energy as it enters the planet. A simple test is draw down some grail energy to the drawing and look to see if the energy will enter it. Here is where I first recognized the grail energy. It was not the first time I had experienced it, but it was the first time it was labelled as such. Mont Sainte Odile I visited there many years ago and there was a silent courtyard with the grail energy. Modern photos do not convey that energy so it may be been repelled by the tourists. Nevertheless if you put your attention deep into the rock under the monastery, the grail energy is still there.
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2018 11:54:02 GMT 9.5
Paul, what do you perceive the grail energy as? Like what name could you give the emotion/thought you receive?
One, from the monastery.
Two, in a general sense.
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2018 13:39:09 GMT 9.5
>what name could you give the emotion/thought you receive? In my perception the grail energy does not enter the emotional or mental planes and only gets as low as the top of the buddhic plane 4.1 a406.proboards.com/thread/973/21-steps-enlightenmentThis is some of what I wrote earlier in this thread: "I went to a concert performance of Parsifal. The singers just stood in a line on the stage. Most were pretty ordinary - apart from the guy that sang the part of the black magician. Despite the ordinariness of the singers, there was some grail energy hanging around in the distance. Towards the end of the opera the grail energy entered the auditorium. I could "see" it as a bright white sphere of light about the size of a golf ball. The grail light was up near the roof and a most beautiful energy filled the auditorium. Wagner gave instructions that there was to be no applause at the end of Parsifal, but these people did not know that. So they broke into enthusiastic applause and that noise shattered the sphere of grail light and it was gone." My experience at Parsifal was of an uplifting sweet and joyful energy. The experience at Mt Ste Odile was similar but less intense. The grail energy currently under the monastery is contained, withdrawn, so not a full or intense experience. Here is Furtwangler with some of the grail music. The recording is live in the early 1950s so the recording is not so good but Furtwangler was and is the best for the grail music. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5OrgydzIAWagner's music subtly conditions the listener so it worth starting at the beginning of the 4 hour opera. Here is the audio for the full opera - by Knappertsbuch in 1962 - called "the recording of the century". When I first started on Wagner I needed the libretto to understand the music. I used to listen to an act per night. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzeNnoMmsjM&t=10s
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2018 13:54:56 GMT 9.5
Would you say a holy energy coming to Earth? I would guess in rays. Does this count as a grail energy drawing? I could see this symmetrically with two going east and west in opposite. Or do you mean light rays from top center down? I guess this shape would also kind of do that if you flipped it upside down.
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2018 14:01:42 GMT 9.5
I wanted to add to this discussion I was reflecting on everything we discuss on these forums. It kind of came to me like an image, or culmination of my thoughts. It was "The Temple of the Mind". I think we all share in this more deeply then we know. It seemed at the time like the piece of Gods kingdom he has inside us all.
I just thought it was worth sharing.
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2018 14:27:35 GMT 9.5
>Does this count as a grail energy drawing?
Am I correct in thinking that you have not listened to the grail music?
Experience is more important than speculation in this context.
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2018 22:16:26 GMT 9.5
>Does this count as a grail energy drawing? Am I correct in thinking that you have not listened to the grail music? Experience is more important than speculation in this context. I have experienced many energies involving light and a sphere of light. The music was peaceful like slowly drifting in space, i have also had many energies feel this way. I am trying to pinpoint the signature so i could try then pinpoint the "destination" or purpose of this specific energy you experienced.
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2018 22:30:15 GMT 9.5
With just the information you have given me Paul, the best guess I could offer for outlining this is ball lightning.
More commonly sighted on European continents. God's energy targeting man was known to be lightning, perhaps this would be in the good way. It would kind of be like alive in this state, free to move around in a single form.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 2:03:46 GMT 9.5
I have been trying to find a way to put this into words. If I were to go to a Buddhist monastery for however long it took for me to learn the energy planes and bring them to Earth in form as you are describing Paul, it would be truly something indeed. My problem I face Paul, and the path I walk, is how do we bring that to others outside the temple walls? If something has this much energy and potential it must mean something more then just within the temple walls.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 2:36:53 GMT 9.5
I guess a better way to put this is, within certain temples grail energy can be achieved. This leaves out a mass majority of population in the experience/event though. I believe there is a way, yet to be discovered, that will allow this experience/event in the original temple of God, Earth. Or maybe just the people within it.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 3:31:36 GMT 9.5
Something to add to previous discussions. I was looking at the half moon last night, and was reminded of the D shape. A few things I came across, further down the cycle of the moon the D shape will reverse to the other side. Also if they did use D as a description of the moon, would the D in the middle of the circle represent sun and moon?
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2018 7:07:21 GMT 9.5
The grail energy has approached me on several occasions. The first that I recall was in a Catholic church, long after I had "lost the faith". I went because my parents were visiting, and took communion with them, and just after that a beautiful energy came upon me that, now when I test it, was grail energy.
It may be relevant that the communion wafer is similar in size and appearance to the grail energy that I saw at the end of a concert performance of Parsifal.
> If I were to go to a Buddhist monastery for however long it took for me to learn the energy planes
It takes about 5 minutes to learn to rise on the planes. The instructions exist at several places in the 21 steps thread.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 7:19:04 GMT 9.5
The grail energy has approached me on several occasions. The first that I recall was in a Catholic church, long after I had "lost the faith". I went because my parents were visiting, and took communion with them, and just after that a beautiful energy came upon me that, now when I test it, was grail energy. It may be relevant that the communion wafer is similar in size and appearance to the grail energy that I saw at the end of a concert performance of Parsifal. > If I were to go to a Buddhist monastery for however long it took for me to learn the energy planes It takes about 5 minutes to learn to rise on the planes. The instructions exist at several places in the 21 steps thread. If this was the answer to connecting to a grail energy event to encompass the minds of the world. I think we would be further along and more on the same page. From your expertise as im not fluent in buddhist practice, what might be missing?
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 8:16:17 GMT 9.5
Some of my thoughts im currently on while dissecting this conversation. It is a bit sexually suggestive, but I honestly have no other way of describing it.
To acquire the grail energy, it requires inner focus (meditation) which is transmitting energy, a God energy to receive and accept it, and also the result of this interaction "ball of light radiating the energy from its birth.
This is a rhythmic wave motion from our spirit body. This penetrates/merges with the God body. Like in the music and also the emotion of grail energy, it is like a chemical reaction winding up to a spiritual climax, then things start to calm down and then continue in a new way. This experience is usually life changing. This then gives birth to a heavenly body shared by both "parents". Grail energy.
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2018 10:30:00 GMT 9.5
>If this was the answer to connecting to a grail energy event to encompass the minds of the world. I think we would be further along and more on the same page. From your expertise as im not fluent in buddhist practice, what might be missing?
I have not seen any connection between the grail and Buddhism - indeed they may be separate paths.
No doubt you are familiar with some of the grail stories and know of the long searches undertaken by the knights. One option is that the knights themselves were not ready.
These days we are better placed as we know from 130 years of experience that performances of Parsifal often draw the grail energies. Hence a relatively pure human may, by repeated exposure to Parsifal, learn to recognize and become sensitive to grail energies.
>To acquire the grail energy, it requires inner focus (meditation) which is transmitting energy, a God energy to receive and accept it, and also the result of this interaction "ball of light radiating the energy from its birth.
Meditation is useful but that was not what I was doing at my first experience.
The ball of light is better considered as a localized anchor for the grail energy. The grail energy is widely available at the edges of the planetary atmosphere.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 13:51:25 GMT 9.5
Along with the clapping after the first act adding to this confusion. Perhaps he had the right pieces, just lacked the right approach to truly reach the audience.
Paul: I have never been a good one for meditating, although I do occasionally use some of its exercises. I think it is more of a inner growth experience. With the play, would it alter the energy being forced out of the audience, or rather produced and not discovered? As you stated earlier "Experience is more important than speculation in this context.", I adamantly agree with this statement. Its the inner journey and discovery that makes it all worth while.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2018 14:07:37 GMT 9.5
I should also add the Buddhists, and im sure numerous other religions, as well as anyone able to perceive the energy. So I think what we need to look for here is the common denominators in doing so. Like music, visual arts, etc... Leading to a harmonious inner self revelation within those captivated.
I am really not the one for that level of production. HAHA
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2018 17:34:20 GMT 9.5
>I have never been a good one for meditating
A couple of months ago I met in the street a woman that I knew slightly. She confessed to being nervous all her life. So standing on the footpath I taught her the flame in the heart exercise. It only took a couple of minutes.
Last week I saw her again. She was looking much better - brighter and confident. She came up to me proudly and said: look how big is my flame. I looked and it was up to her throat - much better than 95% of humans.
Meditation is not hard with a good technique.
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2018 17:35:59 GMT 9.5
>audience, who remained silent
I lived in a spiritual community and they never clapped. They waved their hands in silent applause. They thought the sound of clapping to be very disruptive.
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