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Post by paul on Jun 24, 2017 16:46:01 GMT 9.5
>any correlation between lillith and shiekinah as I have come witnessed too
Both were/are goddesses, but Lilith was notorious for collecting Earth males as lovers. That is not said about Shekinah - afaik.
>believed in the zohar the women came first so maybe this can also become part of the explanation
Sumerian writings give a much more detailed account of the experiments and processes in producing intelligent working humans that could reproduce.
Birth goddesses were used to gestate some of the early humans - hence women did come first.
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 25, 2017 4:08:57 GMT 9.5
foxfires, I appreciate your insight about the similarities between Job's story and my own.
Paul, when I put the piece of paper that said hooks to my body the first time I did it I'd had a bit to drink, but I still saw the hooks pulling black etheric substance (karma?) out of my body.
I recall when I was heavily medicated a few years back after the incident(zyprexa, depakote, cymbalata every single day) I read an invocation of lust from the satanic bible in Enochian (because I had no ideal what I was actually saying). However I stopped before the final word of the invocation because I recognized it to be saying 'hail satan' in Enochian. I then read the English translation of what I'd actually just said and started praying to Jesus Christ afterwards lol.
The reason I bring that up is because I feel that there may be a connection between the two situations (a parasitic entity and that foolish decision a few years ago).
I've heard that laveyan satanism isn't quite as bad as the 'real' stuff (which in my perception would be things like the O.T.O.)
Nevertheless, when I read the English translation of what that invocation actually meant it seemed to be pretty evil.
While were on the subject, since Heru brought up Lilith I believe that she is on the inverted pentagram that the laveyan satanists use under the name Samael.
A bit strange that I would even consider opening a book of that nature after being attacked by evil entities, but that's the Divine Comedy (;
The satanic bible can stay in the garbage where it belongs.
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Post by Heru on Jun 25, 2017 5:51:34 GMT 9.5
What interests me most about lilith is my own friends experience of a hideous female who wanted to mate with him.
Paul description of said female entity matches his experience exactly although I know there are many female entities that wish to mate and even perhaps want offspring,i wonder if any of them do so on the orders of lilith?
Even though judaism might feature more femanistic aspects in its scripture than the other abrahamic faiths it's stil primarily male dominated and ultimately, at least according to orthodoxy grants more privileges to men.
The same can obviously be same for Islam but perhaps less so in christianity.
It's interesting that a female seducer plays such a prominent role in revelation,perhaps the women described would be lilith made into flesh?
I'm surprised you say the women is clearly the superior being foxflies as from my understanding of binah is that the women was seen as the creator of death and destruction,head of the pillar of severity,maybe that is Dions interpretation only
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 6:23:31 GMT 9.5
>I put the piece of paper that said hooks to my body the first time I did it I'd had a bit to drink, but I still saw the hooks pulling black etheric substance (karma?) out of my body.
Have another go at the exercise - paying attention to major parts/joints of the body.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 6:31:43 GMT 9.5
>Can u explain where such an Gentleman's agreement would be so Why bother Getting an Halls of Amenti Pass LOL for the Class Teacher
The reincarnation process, as commonly described, is a simplification but serves to point out that humans develop over long periods and that good and evil deeds are not deleted by death.
The complexities to be added include:
- Cosmic patterning (karma and intent) - Spirits generating multiple souls - Souls generating multiple personalities - Parallel processing of spirit/soul intent through multiple souls/personalities and multiple time paths and multiple systems.
In this context the concept of a teacher is not so obvious. For example one of the more advanced personalities may teach another personality of the same soul.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 6:34:00 GMT 9.5
>And-Mankind-Created-God-in-Its-Own-Image
This is a description of how theology is developed, partially as a result of confusing humanoid gods with the Source of All, and partially because humans tend to see Existence from their own perspective.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 6:41:01 GMT 9.5
>inverted pentagram
Geometric forms are alive. Approaching them from another direction does not alter their function. It merely changes one's own entry to that intelligent life.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 6:44:36 GMT 9.5
>own friends experience of a hideous female who wanted to mate
Reports of alien abductions often include involuntary matings.
>women was seen as the creator of death and destruction
The woman is the bringer of physical life and therefore the bringer of physical death. The Spirit does not die.
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 25, 2017 11:19:43 GMT 9.5
I repeated the exercise as you said to do, and I got the idea to put the hooks at each of my 7 major chakra points. When I did that, I saw my chakras burning and destroying the hooks by fire.
The second time I repeated the exercise, I put pieces of paper that said 'hooks' next to the major joints as you said to do, and the papers turned into literal hooks and then pulled out wings from my back.
There was then a halo, and a third eye on my forehead opened.
I had a vision of Khamael during this, but I called on him earlier.
I think I might have been assuming a god-form without realizing it.
I had the insight that I was regularly doing an assumption of a god-form for Abaddon because I saw that guys twitter drawing and it resulted in a pretty mean personality for a while.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 14:46:15 GMT 9.5
See if you can visualize a large fish hook in your head. Follow the line to see who put it there. What will you do about it?
The same can be done in the throat, heart, liver, right knee, etc
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 25, 2017 16:18:23 GMT 9.5
I have had a few drinks again tonight, although I'm not drunk. I wonder if there is a spirit manipulating me into these behaviors (I usually go out to bars to meet someone, but I also end up drinking)
I've only had about 3-4 beers for the night and I'm bordering on being sober now, so here's what I see when I visualize: to me it appears that Abaddon is the one that 'put it there', whatever you mean by that.
Earlier I had a vision of St. Michael's Lance impaling and killing Abaddon.
The second time I visualize it, it goes up to a certain layer of the heavens and a being says 'I am Zeus'.
Then when I repeat the experiment with the intention of lifting the evil entity out of my head, I again get the answer that Abaddon was the one who put it there.
For a brief second I thought of the Archangel St. Michael when typing this out, and I saw him saying 'I stand before you' and throwing his spear at me which then knocked an evil entity out of my body, pinned it to the wall and destroyed it.
I'll repeat this when I'm completely sober, but it seems that my visualizations are enhanced when I'm lightly buzzed (2-4 beers). Anything more or less than that seems to have a negative effect.
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Post by paul on Jun 25, 2017 16:40:35 GMT 9.5
>my visualizations are enhanced when I'm lightly buzzed
That is not uncommon in the earlier stages of spiritual growth. The relaxation helps the body get out of the way of the inner process.
I am not satisfied that your visualizations are free from interference. I suggest that you stick to the Flame in the Heart exercise.
You might also do well in spending time each day attending to the helper we messaged about.
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Post by Heru on Jun 25, 2017 16:57:36 GMT 9.5
I'll repeat this when I'm completely sober, but it seems that my visualizations are enhanced when I'm lightly buzzed (2-4 beers). Anything more or less than that seems to have a negative effect. Funny you say that just yesterday I was hearing of someone's experience of certain drugs that would cause him to have de ja vue's,when on said drug he would have them much more than when clean but I take de ja vue's very seriously as I've visioned things happening years into the future and convinced they are not simply tricks of the mind because as soon as I experience one I roughly remember when I dreamt of said experience,sometimes going back years as I just mentioned. I'm not really sure what to conclude from this however but it does puzzle me ,the easy non believers answer will be yeah it's all just a mind game but I'm 100% positive it isn't,I've heard countless accounts of people seeing 'shadow people' when really high and I don't think those shared experiences are only figments of ones imagination. I know Crowley was very heavy into the stuff ( he's partly responsible for the drug/hippie craze that took place after the war I believe) and perhaps deemed them necessary. No crack orgies for me I'm afraid...
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 26, 2017 0:23:02 GMT 9.5
I briefly practiced the flame in the heart exercise, and then looked at the picture you messaged me and the answer I got is that Satan was interfering with my visualizations. A bit broad though, since that term could refer to a lot of different entities, or just the tempter/deceiver as the being is commonly referred to as.
I also have an angel statue from when my grandma died a few years back during the incident.
After I asked attempted to use Li Hongzhi's method of statue consecration that he spoke of (making the Lotus Hand Gesture while holding his book), the statue now has 'bleeding wings'-- a red tint alluding to a fallen angel or injured wings, whereas before the wings were perfectly fine.
I can post a picture if you want, but thought it would be best not to bring the energy of whatever that is onto this forum.
Possibly Li Hongzhi was trying to tell me something?
Very strange experience indeed.
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 26, 2017 0:25:42 GMT 9.5
When I repeat the exercise that you told me (visualizing a large fish hook in the head), I see a man reeling it.
This man is a corrupt demon, and has blue eyes and a long white beard.
His teeth are somewhat rotted, he is insane and evil.
Is this visualization more accurate?
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 26, 2017 0:43:15 GMT 9.5
Now what I've done while I was looking at the picture you sent me, is that I grabbed my forehead with the intention of grabbing him by his clothes. I pulled him out of my forehead and pointed the Karana Mudra at him until he was destroyed.
Tried this vision again, called on both Michael and Khamael during this one.
I looked at Khamael's Enochian Sigil beforehand, and I am currently wearing Michael's as I often do.
When I followed the fish-hook up, I saw a being take the form of one of my watchers/a powerful angel I've encountered.
I told him to reveal his true form and he transformed into some sort of sea demon or another.
I had the thought of Shiva during this visualization and saw fire reigning down from the sky at whatever the entity was.
I also had the thought that the fire was making the entity stronger; I saw Khamael kill both (what I at least perceived to be Shiva, though I doubt it, as Sadhguru venerates Shiva and is a good man), and the sea monster things/whatever that was.
When I follow the fish hook up now all I saw is St. Michael the Archangel, again saying 'I stand before you'.
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 26, 2017 1:08:46 GMT 9.5
Also thought I should let you know paul, a thought came to my head about you saying 'hey paul/peter2, good job exorcising me you ----- ------'.
I apologize for any offense taken, that thought was not my own as far as I am aware.
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Post by paul on Jun 26, 2017 6:30:22 GMT 9.5
When I repeat the exercise that you told me (visualizing a large fish hook in the head), I see a man reeling it. ... Is this visualization more accurate? It is indeed. That is much better. Such entities have had a long long time to prepare layered defenses against being dislodged. And they have had much experience in fooling humans. I used to know the head public servant in the state in which I lived. He had so many hooks in him that he had no freedom of decision. He looked like a pin cushion. Hooks come not only from dark entities but also parents, grandparents, children, friends and teachers. I discovered a hook in one ear from a nun that taught me when I was 7 years old. Hooks often generate physical difficulties. For example a hook in the foot will gradually make the foot less flexible and damage will occur from vigorous use. Mostly I give love from the heart to the entity and then give the hook back. It is substance from their aura and it should be returned - with love not judgement. Not all entities want the hook back. Use light from the heart to fill up any hole left by the hook. We don't want other entities filling the holes.
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 26, 2017 7:27:38 GMT 9.5
When I meditated on what you said, at first I saw my body falling apart, as if it were burned by lava, I then visualized the Master Teacher you messaged me about and I heard 'God has made you whole' and saw my light body fulfilled and restored using energy from the heart.
I often see what I perceive to be a 'pink light of love' and I suspect that it has a connection to B.O.T.A. or the one who was teaching me during that period.
Also, is it fine to teach the Flame in the Heart exercise to children?
I work as a caregiver and peaked his interest by telling him that I might be able to show him a 'super secret Freemason meditation' hehe.
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Post by paul on Jun 26, 2017 7:39:55 GMT 9.5
> heard 'God has made you whole' and saw my light body fulfilled
Good, but do not think that that is the end of the cleansing.
>a 'pink light of love'
Gold with pink is a nice toning.
>teach the Flame in the Heart exercise to children
That should work well with almost every child.
Not everything that looks like a human is one. Some do not anchor the flame of spirit but you can check for that by looking for a flame in their heart.
>'super secret Freemason meditation'
I rather think that I was shown that technique during meditation. I do not recall reading it.
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