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Post by paul on Oct 26, 2016 12:13:25 GMT 9.5
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Post by fjrogers on Oct 30, 2016 12:00:14 GMT 9.5
That's a very interesting link, above. I've often thought of the Tree of Life as being like a ladder through which the aspirant progresses upwards. W. L. Wilmshurst gives a good discussion on the ladder in one of his books.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Oct 31, 2016 0:48:10 GMT 9.5
Other than just learning the rote answers; the ladder is the probably the most meaningful symbol in Masonry to me. At least I can understand it in a meaningful way, which is to say that I can understand how to use it in a practical manner to improve my life. Other Masonic symbols seem like individual pieces of a system while the ladder seems to offer a glimpse into the system.
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Post by paul on Oct 31, 2016 5:20:13 GMT 9.5
Arguably the practice veiled by the ladder is the most important skill for Masonic Science: rising on the planes
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Oct 31, 2016 16:42:35 GMT 9.5
Arguably the practice veiled by the ladder is the most important skill for Masonic Science: rising on the planes It seems to me that there is a great difference between having technical information and practical application. If only there was a method for accomplishing this that Masons could share with each other without violating their oath.
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Post by paul on Oct 31, 2016 17:15:05 GMT 9.5
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Post by fjrogers on Oct 31, 2016 17:38:45 GMT 9.5
> Add intent and it is complete.
All you need is intent and you're a step closer to your goal.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 1, 2016 1:49:51 GMT 9.5
All you need is intent and you're a step closer to your goal. That sounds scary. I find unfocused intent to be a very dangerous component. I have accomplished a lot in life, but not all of it was good.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 1, 2016 1:52:47 GMT 9.5
I have never really understood the system of X.X levels. This looks pretty self explanatory. I will see if I can apply it to my journey.
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Post by paul on Nov 1, 2016 5:17:49 GMT 9.5
Your chakra intelligences know exactly what the numbers in that thread mean.
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Post by fjrogers on Nov 1, 2016 17:10:18 GMT 9.5
> Your chakra intelligences know exactly what the numbers in that thread mean.
I would say they do.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 2, 2016 9:48:32 GMT 9.5
Just following up. So level 7.7 is the lowest level and 1.1 is the highest, correct? So, good technical information but not really much of a practice for overcoming the negative side of any particular level. It appears that levels 7, 6, and 5 are dealt with primarily through understanding, is that correct? This system is pretty new to me so I'm just trying to comprehend it. Thanks.
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Post by paul on Nov 2, 2016 13:12:49 GMT 9.5
>not really much of a practice for overcoming the negative side of any particular level
Spending time on each of the subplanes - filling them with light - progressively heals them and refines their energies. Also spending that time requires the human to establish and demonstrate control of each subplane.
As the subplanes are refined and control is established all the lower subplane substance is excreted and all that is left is the highest subplanes: 7.1, 6.1 up to 1.1.
The subplane material circulates through the aura but the material of each plane all cycles through its own chakra with the heaviest vibes in the bottom layer.
Thus by intending and placing attention in the appropriate chakra it is possible for the anchors of each major trauma to show themselves and be healed. Filling each anchor with love and light will progressively transmute it.
The anchors may be experienced as a physical/emotional/mental discomfort when right attention is placed upon that location. Typically the location will look a little dark, and sometimes an intelligence may be attached.
Thus many traumas and personal karmic effects can be resolved at the anchor without necessarily revisiting the past events or consciousnesses.
Only by cleansing, refining and control and then alignment is the initiate self-made.
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Post by fjrogers on Nov 2, 2016 14:15:48 GMT 9.5
Cleansing and refining on the subplanes, in this way, is a practical way of becoming a self-made initiate.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 2, 2016 17:41:31 GMT 9.5
I'm not going to quote all that, but it is very interesting - it is a different way of looking at it. I'm not saying that I understand it very well, but I can sort of see what the process must be. I have only a basic understanding of the meaning of some of the words and phrases, but I seem to be able to relate them to my experience. I'm going to flip over to the other thread now and re-read 5, 6, and 7.
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Post by paul on Nov 2, 2016 20:00:32 GMT 9.5
>I'm going to flip over to the other thread now and re-read 5, 6, and 7.
Regular and intentional reading of the thread will stimulate the process.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 5, 2016 12:23:54 GMT 9.5
Just a quick thought. Is there a poster somewhere that I could download and print so that I could look at the arrangement to help fix it in my mind?
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Post by fjrogers on Nov 5, 2016 15:06:54 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Nov 5, 2016 17:09:33 GMT 9.5
Here is a reasonable depiction. The planes are appropriately numbered
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Nov 6, 2016 16:28:30 GMT 9.5
It's a map isn't it. But a map is not a destination. People ask for a map but what they really want is the destination. I have always been fascinated by people who could commit themselves to a map. It seems like I have always known that what I really desired was the destination and that the map was only a vague representation of what I desired. Even as I struggle to find my location on the map I am frustrated. Will I be able to decipher this map? It is difficult to search for something when you are not even sure what it actually is.
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