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Post by pointwithinacircle on May 16, 2015 10:58:11 GMT 9.5
One of the greatest mysteries for me personally is why do Masons consider the north a place of darkness? Most of the Masons I have asked this question have referred to the explanation given in the ritual. When I tried to press them further I quickly discovered that they had no ideas other than quoting the ritual. Obviously those couple sentences do not satisfy me. What do you think? is there another reason why the north is traditionally a place of darkness?
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Post by paul on May 16, 2015 12:26:14 GMT 9.5
To quote from The Spirit of Masonry: "Then shall the Master in the East awaken those who are asleep. Then shall the Warden in the West test out and try all true seekers after light. Then shall the Warden in the South instruct and aid the blind. Then shall the gate into the North remain wide open, for there the unseen Master stands, with welcoming hand and understanding heart to lead the candidate unto the East where the true light shines forth..." books.google.com.au/books?id=QRR74yHs164C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=north&f=falseFrom this we may deduce that the North is dark because its energy is too high frequency to be seen by the candidate. The same situation is seen in regalia of the 30th where the energy becomes visible when it drops in frequency at its edge - thus a black interior with white edging. |
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Post by paul on May 17, 2015 5:47:42 GMT 9.5
>Spiritually seems the new energies on the block are just dealing with female sensuality And unconditional respect for this, and the need for covering .
While the human race's gender relationships are important issues, they are largely internal to the race. There may, however, be a larger context in which the terrestrial human race is hardly visible for most purposes.
Still, the terrestrial human race does have some opportunities to contribute to the greater system - primarily by demonstrating good will within darkness. The coming worldwide economic depression is a good opportunity for that.
> and what the sun directly shine on and does not
As a symbolic statement that is interesting.
For example, is there any being on which the spiritual Sun does not shine?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 1, 2015 19:56:00 GMT 9.5
One of the greatest mysteries for me personally is why do Masons consider the north a place of darkness? Most of the Masons I have asked this question have referred to the explanation given in the ritual. When I tried to press them further I quickly discovered that they had no ideas other than quoting the ritual. Obviously those couple sentences do not satisfy me. What do you think? is there another reason why the north is traditionally a place of darkness? If you look at the Tree of Life you will see that Wisdom/Chokmah is in the "East' - Strength/Geburah is in the "West" and Tipareth/Beauty is "South" of Keter/Ain/Ain Soph/Ain Soph Aur, which is "North" - the Unknowable/Unfathomable etc etc. So I agree with what Russell has said about this subject. The North is THAT about which no thing can be said. |
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Post by paul on Jun 6, 2015 20:29:25 GMT 9.5
As far as I can tell there are 2 forms of darkness:
- energy of which the vibration is too high for the being to perceive
- energy within range of perception that is spirit becoming matter (involutionary).
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Post by paul on Jun 7, 2015 5:57:15 GMT 9.5
In my view there are 2 forms of evil:
- excessive darkness
- excessive light.
There are natural light-dark cycles at all levels of existence and at all time scales. Distortion of those cycles may result in evil.
An example is in-breath and out-breath. Cyclical balance is necessary.
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 9, 2015 15:06:42 GMT 9.5
Light and darkness must balance each other. One cannot exist without the other. We must remember that perfection comes with balance.
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2015 11:40:15 GMT 9.5
Is now about 10 years since light was stopped and restarted in a Harvard experiment (as far as I recall). The Nazis abandoned relativity (they called it "Jewish physics") in the 1930s but it is only in the last decade that it has been possible to publish academic articles disputing Einstein. There is however significant evidence that major advances in physics have been hidden since about 1955. The former head of the Lockheed skunk works has been quoted in the 1990s as saying that they were already "able to take ET home" - that is go to other stars and return. This cannot be done in reasonable timeframes in a relativistic framework. a406.proboards.com/thread/534/speed-light-exceeded |
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Post by paul on Jun 16, 2015 10:05:57 GMT 9.5
"the late Ben Rich, former head of Lockheed’s skunk works, was quoted after his retirement and before his death, as having said that the scientists in black projects had found “an error in the equations,” and that we now had the capability “to take ET home.”" Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations by Joseph Farrell
And this is in another Farrell but I can't find the source at the moment:
""We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture shortly before he died "
That was almost 20 years ago so I dare say there have been further developments
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 4:51:23 GMT 9.5
> ""We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture shortly before he died "
I cannot begin to imagine the intentions of those in possession of such technologies and knowledge. Perhaps mankind as a whole was not ready for it, in any case I truly believe that we are on the verge of tremendous global change in the next few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 6:06:06 GMT 9.5
> I cannot begin to imagine the intentions of those in possession of such technologies and knowledge. Perhaps mankind as a whole was not ready for it, in any case I truly believe that we are on the verge of tremendous global change in the next few years. There are people i forward progressed into a future hypnotism Situation and two paths seem to occur Enlightened beings and people on medical mechanical devices to deliver insulin and meds And they are not healthy enough to go off world ... In their state ... In future lifetimes ... So u got people WHO do not need UFO's two jump home ... And these are ~~~ more or less thought constructs ... People who trust in GOD basically and do not doubt or have fears they need to nurse maid ... And those who do not worry about dying or much of anything else With the exception of others welfare ... And people can not be forced to let go of their machines or pride ... possessions ... That's really interesting fox. Parallel time-lines?? |
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 20, 2015 10:16:58 GMT 9.5
I believe we are on the verge of global change and mankind has much to learn about itself and its purpose on this planet. If humanity does not use its own inventions and new technology for the good of the human race, and nature itself, it will fall into decline.
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Post by paul on Jun 22, 2015 11:18:43 GMT 9.5
The emerald tablets of Tooth are bendable non breakable glass ...Sounds like a thought construct to me ... As far as I recall such substances are reported from ufo crashes |
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 29, 2015 15:53:01 GMT 9.5
When the human race has fully awakened there will be a new heaven and a new earth possibly. The power of group work and ritual can hasten the evolution of humanity if those involved endeavour to carryout this task.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 1:44:04 GMT 9.5
The Mysteries of Freemasonry by William Morgan
"Because this and every other Lodge is, or ought to be, a true representation of
King Solomon's Temple, which was situated North of the ecliptic; the Sun and Moon, therefore,
darting their rays from the South, no light was to be expected from the North; we, therefore,
Masonically, term the North a place of darkness"
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Post by paul on Aug 17, 2015 6:19:48 GMT 9.5
An interesting quotation: - what does "North of the ecliptic" mean? How can a building be there? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecliptic- at the North Pole there is no darkness in mid-summer. So for part of the year the North is the place of light. In my view much of the veiling in Masonry is accidental - produced by brethren that lack the genuine secrets but nevertheless write ritual and lectures. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 6:57:19 GMT 9.5
> - at the North Pole there is no darkness in mid-summer. So for part of the year the North is the place of light.
I think the author means the direction from where the light comes, and not the location being in darkness. So anywhere north of the ecliptic, i.e. the tropic of Cancer in this case. The temple will only receive light coming from the South. To look to the North an aspirant would see darkness.
This video is a nice graphical representation of the ecliptic.
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Post by paul on Aug 17, 2015 7:16:20 GMT 9.5
Am I correct in thinking that the ecliptic is still seen from the North Pole? If so how can KST be yet further north?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 7:29:17 GMT 9.5
> Am I correct in thinking that the ecliptic is still seen from the North Pole? If so how can KST be yet further north?
I believe you are correct, the plane would be visible from the North Pole. I understand that William Morgan tells us that the temple should be north of where the ecliptic intersects the surface of the Earth. I don't understand how you find the temple being further north than the North Pole?
I am advocating the author not because I think he is correct, but because I find his position to be an interesting one, and not one that I truly understand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 15:59:37 GMT 9.5
> Looked around lately LOLFS credence clear water revival do do doolin out the back door or something like that what are we without hope brother  >Isaiah 14:12 ► How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." 15 But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. This very same thought occupied my mind at 4 this morning, so much so I almost came down to my computer to post it. |
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