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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2020 11:27:21 GMT 9.5
So the nature spirits and various birds find you interesting. That is normal. It is said that nature spirits have to incarnate as humans to qualify for entry to the devic kingdom. Learning voice and intent is central to their progress.
Intent is the primary means used in the Flame exercise.
Visualization (developing clairvoyance) is a secondary means.
Concentration indicates a mental approach, and while a useful skill, it tends to hold the consciousness towards the bottom of the mental plane. The Flame is on a higher plane.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 6:20:45 GMT 9.5
So am I safe to assume that the exercise can be done with eyes open? Sorry paul I didnt recall your response to this other question that I asked or perhaps it got lost in translation....
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Post by paul on Aug 18, 2020 6:45:11 GMT 9.5
> So am I safe to assume that the exercise can be done with eyes open?
Certainly. It is a matter of using intent. Imagery/visualization is secondary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 6:09:37 GMT 9.5
Thank you very much for clearing up two questions for me, as I was fighting with all to make the visual first. So perhaps just meditating on the fact that I desire to see the flame should be my first intention?
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Post by paul on Aug 23, 2020 7:52:21 GMT 9.5
The Flame is the primal you. The soul and personality are lesser expressions. Thus we can put our attention on the immediate source of Life - the Flame. Intent as a non-personal function is peaceful, directional and decisional. Spiritual intent here is directing Spirit to manifest more fully - in this case to produce awareness of the flow and the Flame. We rest our Intent upon the increased flow of Spirit and thus the increased Flame. If we can see the Flame that is a bonus. Some see the downflow of Spirit more easily than the Flame. Visual imagery is dependent upon development of the sight faculty at that level of Existence. Accumulating light body substance and forming it into an organ of perception takes time and effort. Sometimes another entity may share part of its light body temporarily so that the human may have more intense experience. a406.proboards.com/thread/973/21-steps-enlightenmentDesire is an experience of separation so that desire as a motivation puts the attention on the problem rather than the solution.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 3:38:15 GMT 9.5
I found this video on YouTube with absolutely no views but my own. I had to share to see if this is advised to assist in the heart flame exercise. Paul.....are you making YouTube videos now buddy? youtu.be/gjbBNAPF3WgSo as you can guess I'm seeking assistance with the heart flame exercise through guided videos which could help,if I find the right one.
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Post by paul on Dec 26, 2020 6:44:23 GMT 9.5
That is some sort of Chi exercise. It feels a bit strange at times and does not increase the flow of Life coming into the heart so much as bring out what Life is already there.
As you may know there are many levels of Chi. The practitioner is dealing with the densest levels - able to be moved by the physical body.
The more important issue is that such exercises are under the patronage of a non-human entity from a past era. Most humans need to move on.
Stick to the Flame exercise as I have written it. After some years of regular practice you will be shown subtle extensions.
The moving of the Light through the body progressively brings wholeness on emotional and physical levels.
>through guided videos
How did you even find a video that no one had watched? I suspect interference.
The Flame in the Heart is an exercise with pure Spirit. It is not physical.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 1:24:04 GMT 9.5
>Stick to the Flame exercise as I have written it. After some years of regular practice you will be shown subtle extensions.
Waiting and waiting is driving me to to my breaking point it seems. They say that "time heals old wounds". Time does nought but bring (unknown)old wounds to "light" it seems. What has happened to this "animal" was consciously not "my" doing but I am forced to bring it to a light that I(nor the beast) never consciously knew existed? Does anyone else agree or at least partially understand the grief that fills the heart? I mean don't get me wrong, I desire truth and light to further progress but d*mn! I know there is no going back for me now and I try to keep the anger that is in my heart at bay until the raging fires can be extinguished but it almost pains me to know that this stupid animal(or "I") couldn't come to realization until dawn near the middle/end of its life and it aggravates the hell out of me. I mean check this out buddies. One of the men that came to my house for the inquiry of petition was but maybe in his early 20's.....what the hell!! So now this has me like, damn, what about me?! So its in my head that I might not be able to do this and remove the veil, hook, darkness or what the hell ever is blocking me for as you say "years down the road". You know its not so much the problem of knowing that the saints/elders(what have you) carry this knowledge and only drop tiny ass hints over the years to insight your conscience to come to light, but the fact that you are left to make your own mistakes and have to come back from the turmoil which was your "life" and to do it alone until "subtle" hints are dropped as your world turns upside down.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there has been many intended brothers that ate a bullet before getting to where I am now after finding out the truth but that path is not for me. I intend only to find the truth and graciously pass the light as I am supposed to, to my sons so they are not "alone in the dark". Sh*ts for the birds if you ask me but hey, what do I know right.
>How did you even find a video that no one had watched? I suspect
I seek light and I will seek until I can not any further. I felt very comfortable withe the videos that I have found on meditation so far but only a couple to do with the heart flame exercise. One video was an older lady but I couldn't get comfortable with her video so I continued my search and found that fellow. I know you want to help....I think, and I thank you for your advice and positive nature. I never want to be negative or share any negativity but details are further needed on so many levels that I fall further and further behind as all pass forward...just like it was in school. It sucked! Yet I feel the need and want to. I feel as if I'm ready to explode with energy and that I'm in the right place but the animal is retarded and taking control is very very difficult. Not physically but mentally. Just knowing that there have always been and will always be those that can see "me" and I not able to "see" back is a difficulty that I can not seem to bear mentally. The thought "I am tired of being seen" has crossed the mind so often that its unbearable.
I can't even begin to imagine how many others that are out there with the same problems. You(and others)are here helping. Why? Doing the right thing? Helping others find this light as you may be obligated to do for whatever reason? Paul, or anyone else.... does it ever get tiring, frustrating or plain out sickening, seeing the darkness that plagues these beast without being able to help more? Does it ever seem futile to the point of giving up? What do you get out of it i guess is the main question that I ask of you. Forgive the ignorance of the questions. I've just really grown tired as of late with the whole " finding myself or trying to figure out the whys and why not. Now I wish to take a moment to figure out the who's and who not's. I would like to know more of the man/men that I have for some time now grown to know as members of the forum. Is there a true purpose or drive that has you coming back to the forum? Is it to better other, yourself or is it mutual to share and gain insights. I bounce all over and try to read the topics but much like my beginning here its is all very vague and misunderstood at times.
"James the just" pointed me this way and I haven't seen of him since on this forum as he stays mainly on the myfreemasonry forum I believe. I do not even know why he offered me this path but I jumped at the opportunity and I wonder if there are others that are not madons here that have been given the same opportunity to be here or am I just a d*mn rodent in a cage being studied by others on the forum. It never fails, I can see 1 maybe 2 people viewing a post then after I post, almost immediately there are anywhere from 6 to 12 people viewing that which I have posted. The worst part is that noone else ever comments and it is either your or foxfires, which is in no way an issue for me as I feel comfortable speaking with each of you about almost anything(for some odd reason). My issue are the quiet ones that give off an almost sneaking uneasy feeling. These people have nothing to add? This issue i will have to figure out at a later time i guess but, back to the task at hand.
I went somewhere yesterday....on Christmas. It was a blizzard of sorts and I didn't think I was going to come back. I kept going even though I knew it was dangerous. I wanted to be as high as I could to meditate away from any electrical interference. This place is know to never be treated by the road crews....if your out and your die....your dead. I continued and I attempted the heart flame exercise but before I did I mentally asked you and anyone else that may be "listening/watching" that if any help could be given or shared some how, I would accept. Being in that particular spot didn't no justice for me after trying so I attempt to leave. Now attempting to drive back out to leave this particular mountain top , in the distance was a car that that approached as I was attempting to come down. This car, it nor its driver had no early reason to be up there and as the driver seen me he immediately started backing back down the hillside instead of coming to the turn-around where I was parked to turn around. This person instead backed up in the snow for over a mile to ensure that I didn't see who he was. I then decided to follow to ensure his exit. No sooner than I decided to follow him, another vehicle approaches and does the same exact thing. The part that screws up my mind the most is that something kept the man in the car at a distance and I could not approach. It wasn't fear as much as it was insecurity that kept me at a distance. No one in their right mind had any business going up on that mountain. As we approached the entrance to the road I put on my turn signal to ensure he knew my intentions was to leave and as I approached I noticed that he was in his late ages. The other vehicle had quickly gone from sight. I do not know of their intentions but I was very cautious.
Now, I haven't seen the sun in so damn long because of the weather and no sooner than my exit and my usual clam up of ignorance because I couldn't bring light, I peer through my window towards the darkest greatest sky I've ever seen and instantly the sun shines through and seemingly stays shining at me until I came to a road. I took that road. I mean what ever right. Whats the worse thing that can happen right? The road brings me to a particular frozen lake in the mountains. I get out and enjoy the beauty of the scene then return to my truck from the cold temperatures. As I reach for my door handle the sun pops back out and shines. I get into the truck and i take a couple good tokes from the good stuff to calm the fears and focus and guess what?.... I was able to bring in the light. With the whole N/E beam that was recommended, I turned my truck in the general direction that my phone compass had read as, and I began. Have you ever saged your vehicle in the freezing snowy mountains as the sun beat around only you? I'd have to say it was wonderful to accomplish this feat and O look to return soon.
Now here is something that I need to cope with. We're either of those cars that came out in the dangerous snow there to help/hurt/ or just joy riding for the right place to commit suicide? Because I can never bring to mind that they were out for the beauty of the season in that storm.i picked that place because of its seclusion. Not knowing their true intentions has me more screwed up mentally than the heart flame exercise. I'm going to pause for now as I have given any and all something to read on this beautiful day. I'm gonna go climb another snow covered hill and see what this day brings. Stay warm safe and sane people.
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Post by paul on Dec 27, 2020 7:38:34 GMT 9.5
>almost pains me to know that this stupid animal(or "I") couldn't come to realization until dawn near the middle/end of its life One of the important mechanisms of the Flame is that we learn to love ourselves. All our internal intelligences work better when loved. >only a couple to do with the heart flame exercise. One video The Flame is the anchoring of Spirit - in your case from outside the planet. That flow of Spirit is the source of Life within you. Life achieves all that is needed. > Does it ever seem futile to the point of giving up? What do you get out of it i guess is the main question that I ask of you. I do not run on my personal will, therefore my batteries do not run down. Life energizes me. >grown tired as of late with the whole " finding myself or trying to figure out the whys and why not. The mind is insufficient for the task. Let Life carry you forward. >The worst part is that noone else ever comments Most of the non-member viewers you see online will be web bots updating their search engines. Personally I think it is better that members post where they know they can add value. >meditate away from any electrical interference I turn off most of the circuits in my unit and put Al foil (earthed) on the wall shared with the adjoining unit. I use Al insect mesh on the outside of windows nearest the 5G towers. Blushield devices are very good. www.blushield-us.com/This is a good test meter. Unfortunately non-professional meters only go to 8 Ghz radmeters.com/Cornet-ED88TPlus.html> I do not know of their intentions but I was very cautious. It is common for adverse entities to send other asset humans to manage humans that seek to escape their influence. >instantly the sun shines through and seemingly stays shining at me It is common that Nature acts to support those working with the Light >to help/hurt/ or just joy riding I do not detect a problem with those cars but it looks like a thought was put in your mind
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Post by paul on Dec 27, 2020 8:51:52 GMT 9.5
Hopefully the Flame will be noticeably easier next time you do it. It looked like there was a constraint on your Flame. I had not seen that before.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 0:44:30 GMT 9.5
So while doing the heart flame exercise I thought I saw a purple flicker. I'm not one for assumptions over believe. One of my favorite quotes is from an old friend "don't believe your lying eyes". Well anyway I started searching again and came across the 12-d light shield. Video after video and well, this one grabbed me, broke me down and made me (seemingly) fall in love with myself and apologize for the way I have lived and pretty much had me crying and making promises of change. Figured I'd share, it also references the heart flame which helped tremendously. So yeah this flame in my heart is not dark green as I had hoped. There is no doubt in my mind now that it is a purple flame. The very same color that I saw as I encountered my pineal chakrah. Just wanted to share. youtu.be/tR2fGfJCOz0
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Post by paul on Dec 28, 2020 5:27:02 GMT 9.5
>doing the heart flame exercise I thought I saw a purple flicker.
The Flame is commonly seen as violet with some subsidiary colors.
>not dark green as I had hoped
The heart chakra when healthy, often has a new leaf green color.
>same color that I saw as I encountered my pineal chakrah
Progressively the flame in the heart expands upwards until it connects with the flame in the forehead so that the head and the heart are united
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 6:01:21 GMT 9.5
>Progressively the flame in the heart expands upwards until it connects with the flame in the forehead so that the head and the heart are united
Ok, so perhaps what your saying is that I'm not fully insane and when I thought I saw this energy beam of sort shooting from my forehead and shooting into several of my chakrahs that it was almost normalcy?
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Post by paul on Dec 28, 2020 7:02:40 GMT 9.5
That flow seems to be an adaptation to get around a blockage in your throat chakra. So check for a hook in your throat and another much larger coming up through the base chakra. The adverse intelligences have had a long time to prepare for your breaking free. They have layers of defence, including bringing back previous handlers. Keep working with the Flame. It is the light of the Solar Logos www.light-weaver.com/LW-old/fire/fire1111.html
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 2:13:05 GMT 9.5
I am trying to do the heart flame exercise. I wish to do as told and further my path. Yet being a single father seems at times timeless. I try to find the time and when I do my mind boggles(unless I am high on Marijuana). Trying to determine the correct times to attempt the exercise without being bothered or cutting time short with my sons is very very difficult as I will not do that. Therefore I find myself unable to distance myself from them. A connection to them holds me in place as far as protection. I feel mentally without truly knowing that guarding them from anyone and themselves is my only true purpose in this life, apparently not if I am here seeking answers. So how do I find the time? When they are elsewhere without me( their mothers weekend, grandparents or cousins(because I allow them nowhere else without me except our home when the roommates( who I almost trust) i do nothing but worry for their safety. This feeling I know will never end. Even during that white flame video that I posted, they asked me to remove my protective light from everything (including my sons) and I said "Nope!, This isn't for me." I still shared it for anyone else. So yet back at square one.
I know that the members of the forum are here to help and figure out more things on their own and that your time is not free to use as air and I desire to help if I can and not waste anymore of your time that absolutely necessary but lost is where I am.
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Post by elijah on Jan 4, 2021 8:15:15 GMT 9.5
The Flame exercise can be done anywhere when first practicing i found it easier done in nature away from people but once the technique is sufficient and what i l call a ''light body nervous system'' is developed it's much easier to expand the light and focus the source in the heart/ solar plexus the emotional and mental body will eventually learn to adjust try to intuitively breathe in rhythm to sustain the mediation
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 1:37:39 GMT 9.5
That "purple" light that I thought ai was so sure was my "flame"?
Once adding some "light" it turned out to be a dark purplish/cloudy sphere right in place of my heart chakra. I continued to pursue the light around it nonstop in a spining circular motion for I understood that it didn't belong there. As I circled it with light it began to disperse as I seemingly chased it up throughout my upper body until it (seemingly) exited through my crown chakra. I tried it this morning without my "assistance" and it(the light) was very vague. Will try again soon.
Separate note: There is a message Instilled in my mind, from youth maybe? I heard it a few years back from my friend that is a Freemason regarding " I can't tell you anything that would damn my soul" or something to that effect and I think that foxfires may have referenced it recently. I am wanting to dive into that comment if someone would offer a little more insight please.
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Post by paul on Jan 6, 2021 7:10:30 GMT 9.5
>a dark purplish/cloudy sphere right in place of my heart chakra
It is good that you are starting to detect the mechanisms of interference. So start in the pure light:
Visualize the white light of Spirit coming straight down into your head and down into the heart anchoring as the Flame
> " I can't tell you anything that would damn my soul"
Freemasons take an obligation to keep secret the recognition signs.
The recognition signs are there to protect deep secrets but few Masons know what those might be. So the recognition signs serve to protect only the recognition signs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 10:20:19 GMT 9.5
So...how in the heck do I know this quote from my childhood? I remember this well enough to know that it is nothing that I have heard as an adult so it has to be from my youth. Or before?
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Post by paul on Jan 6, 2021 10:39:09 GMT 9.5
Or a dream
I would see the candidates come into Masonry. In their second and third meetings they would look around and wonder where was the Freemasonry they felt before they were initiated.
The real Freemasonry is a spiritual impulse from beyond the human race. Human institutions have tried to be Freemasonry but with declining effectiveness.
I had the same thing driving to the Rhine River. From 30 miles away I could feel its spiritual power. When I got to the bank there was no energy - just brown water and barges.
The spiritual entity no longer finds the river attractive. Similarly with Freemasonry.
So to save you the trouble the stages are:
- learn to control and refine the personality so that it is transparent to the Light from On High. This allows you to - learn to relate to the deeper aspects of Nature so as to build right relationship with other intelligences. This allows you to - learn to manage the temple that extends from East to West, North to South and from the center of the Earth to the Heavens.
The human race is starting to grasp the nature of the challenge and is starting to build appropriate institutions and structures - even if sometimes using faulty reasoning.
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