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Post by seekinglight on Jul 13, 2017 10:50:55 GMT 9.5
Are there any practices well-suited to work in conjunction with this method? I was told by an inner guide that Sadhguru's Shambhavi Mahamudra and the Flame in the Heart should comprise my daily practice.
The most notable thing that I think came as a result of this practice is this so far (I have been practicing daily for around 3-4 weeks now): I am more aware in my dreams.
That's not to say that I am consciously aware that I am dreaming, I can still be having absurd dreams and thinking that it's all real.
What I mean by that is that it seems my personality in my dreams is more akin to my waking personality than it used to be.
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Post by paul on Jul 13, 2017 11:17:51 GMT 9.5
>Shambhavi Mahamudra
Personally I think that is a bit narrow as in my case it would not have given enough attention to other chakras. But if you do it then it may well be more focused if you intend the numbers 5.3 and/or 5.2 at the same time.
>I can still be having absurd dreams
The nature of specific dreams can be investigated, for example by testing on which time path they exist.
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Post by seekinglight on Jul 13, 2017 23:44:21 GMT 9.5
I haven't yet learned the Shambhavi Mahamudra, I was just told by an inner guide that practice and the Flame in the Heart should comprise my daily practice.
I watched a brief video on it and Sadhguru explains that it develops what is referred to in Yoga as the Bliss Body.
Does that one work with the same chakra(s) as Isha Kriya?
Isha Kriya didn't seem like a particularly powerful practice, but I've heard that it is meant to establish connection with a guru so I definitely don't regret it.
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Post by pointwithinacircle on Jul 14, 2017 1:41:04 GMT 9.5
The spiritual life like drawing a picture of the Grand Canyon isn't it? I could try to draw a picture by listening to descriptions. Or I could read books about it. Or I could spend a day looking at it. But probably the best picture would be draw by someone who spent their life wandering the canyon
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Post by paul on Jul 14, 2017 6:08:20 GMT 9.5
>Does that one work with the same chakra(s) as Isha Kriya?
Isha Kriya - from what I have read - uses the solar plexus and then the ajna. This is a reasonable sequence.
With any method it is important to be able to transcend the technical aspects so that the experience of Spirit is not limited. The transcending experience will typically involve time passing very quickly, a sense of "where was I?", and a sense of peace.
Much later in the process the spiritualised human system is capable of awareness during transcendence and therefore more active on those levels of existence.
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Post by seekinglight on Aug 20, 2017 11:51:49 GMT 9.5
Since practicing more often I have discovered the technique of using the physical breath as a siddhi; the process is as follows:
Since the number 3 is both Masonic and sacred, use the exhale 3 times over to push the light out of the arms and legs in a clockwise spiral, also down the abdomen and outwards in all directions through the chest cavity.
Use the inhale 3 times to bring the Light (I usually use the Diamond Light of the Buddha personally), to bring the Light back up through the legs and also into the head. Seems to be able to overcome distractions when the Physical Breath is used properly as a Siddhi in this scenario.
To recap: use the EXHALE 3 times over when pushing Light outwards, and use the INHALE 3 times over when drawing the Light inwards.
For me the Flames are 3 in number and change color usually with every body part.
I feel the karma in my right arm is being worked out, apparently cursing is never a technique of the Right Hand Path even if you think you are using it to humanity's benefit.
Your thoughts may be manipulated without you even knowing it.
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Post by paul on Aug 20, 2017 14:33:22 GMT 9.5
>bring the Light back up
Usually this will naturally be an anti-clockwise spiral - from matter to spirit
>the Diamond Light of the Buddha personally
This is a bit whiter and a little more intentful than the white-gold of the Christ light. The Diamond Light seems to me to contain some influence from outside the solar system.
> karma in my right arm is being worked out
You may like to look inwardly at your arm and when attuned to it, ask it to whom it belongs.
>thoughts may be manipulated without you even knowing it.
Using the mind to diagnose itself can be rather difficult.
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Post by seekinglight on Aug 21, 2017 0:06:40 GMT 9.5
I recall you telling me in a PM when I said that I visualize brilliant white Light naturally that I may be reverting to a temple practice from Atlantis.
The way that I overcome this tendency is to use the Diamond Light of the Buddha instead.
When I said 'to whom does my right arm belong, answer me honestly in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.', the answer that I received fluctuated between Satan and Djwhal Khul and the answer ended with Djwhal Khul.
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Post by paul on Aug 21, 2017 15:29:39 GMT 9.5
>'to whom does my right arm belong, answer me honestly in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.', the answer that I received fluctuated between Satan and Djwhal Khul
Most humans like their arms to belong to them. You may wish to attend to the situation - to obtain the loyalty of your arm.
Are there other parts of you that consider that they belong to other entities?
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Post by paul on Aug 21, 2017 15:35:18 GMT 9.5
>honestly in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen
It seems that when the god Amen was in ancient Egypt he was cast out by the other gods and he went into hiding in the desert. His followers found the situation of their god rather distressing and explained that he was actually the hidden god and so a very special god. That turned out to be an attractive story even today.
Later Amen/Amun/Amon was combined theologically with well-respected gods to improve his status e.g. with Ra: Amen-Ra, or as you have seen, with Jesus.
Personally I would not invoke him.
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Post by seekinglight on Aug 23, 2017 4:29:51 GMT 9.5
I have refined using the breath as a siddhi for the Flame in the Heart recently.
I block the opposite nostril (ex. when doing left leg I block the right nostril), so that the corresponding nostril stays open. I do an exhalation (and inhalations when relevant) 3x over.
I do the same thing for my arms, but only in one direction.
Basically I work with the direction I'm going and do it 3x over, blocking nostrils when working on the limbs.
For my chest and body, 3x over, as well as when drawing the Light into my head.
I then use exhalations to explode the Light inside of my head, and for my eyebrows 3x over.
The number for my hair varies, but most recently I did it 8x in admiration to the Noble Eight-Fold Path.
This to me is mainly a technique to keep my focus, as there are always either internal or external distractions if I do the Flame in the Heart when I don't use this technique.
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Post by seekinglight on Aug 23, 2017 4:53:59 GMT 9.5
Also when my inner sight is up to par, I visualize the Flames getting brighter an each relevant exhalation and inhalation for all the parts of my body.
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Post by seekinglight on Aug 23, 2017 4:57:24 GMT 9.5
tl;dr: When working on my limbs, I block the opposite nostril and leave the corresponding one open so that my focus stays in that part of the body.
Whenever I take a relevant breath, I either push the Light outwards or explode it with an exhalation or draw the Light inwards with an inhalation.
I do this 3x over for every part of my body except for my hair, which varies.
I gonna try 8x 8x 8x for my brain, eyebrows and hair now.
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Post by paul on Aug 23, 2017 6:22:00 GMT 9.5
>I block the opposite nostril (ex. when doing left leg I block the right nostril)
Long ago I did a similar an exercise using heart beats for timing and my body got quite good at it. One day my body refused to do it. A week or so later a woman I knew at AMORC came and told me that I had damaged my etheric body.
Such damage can carry over into the next incarnation.
>I gonna try 8x 8x 8x for my brain, eyebrows and hair now.
I do not advise that sort of exercise. You might like to consider if your partygoer has found a new sort of party game.
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Post by fjrogers on Aug 23, 2017 16:31:31 GMT 9.5
> Such damage can carry over into the next incarnation.
I believe that is true. One must take a lot of care when doing such activities.
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Post by seekinglight on Sept 6, 2017 10:07:08 GMT 9.5
What do you recommend for those who have trouble with inner sight?
I can visualize but not actually 'see' anything.
My guess would be that persistent practice is the only remedy but maybe there are some other useful hints someone can share.
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Post by paul on Sept 6, 2017 13:34:37 GMT 9.5
>those who have trouble with inner sight?
As you may have learned from the 21 steps thread, it is possible to accumulate substance on each subplane and organize that substance into sense organs and then learn to use them.
Accumulating substance on the higher subplanes requires spending time operating on those subplanes.
All this takes a fair amount of effort as dense subplane matter is discarded and higher subplane matter accumulated.
If a more skilled entity temporarily shares part of its light body then the recipient may see better than usual.
Light body substance can also be donated or taken. Young babies are good at taking etheric substance from their parents.
Depending upon ray structure some humans will develop other inner senses before sight. For example most develop touch earlier - being able to sense energies that are not seen.
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Post by seekinglight on Sept 21, 2017 4:11:32 GMT 9.5
Paul, I read in Paramahansa Yogananda's book Autobiography of a Yogi that 8 1/2 hours of daily Kriya Yoga practice confers spiritual liberation in 3 years, being equal to one million years of natural spiritual development.
Do you have any time-frame on the time it takes to attain liberation with the focused practice of the Flame in the Heart?
As of late I've been following your recommendation in regards to the Flame as my only spiritual practice, I'm just wondering which is the superior path the follow as I feel the Kriya Yoga route may be one I eventually wish to walk.
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Post by paul on Sept 22, 2017 10:11:12 GMT 9.5
> 8 1/2 hours of daily Kriya Yoga practice confers spiritual liberation in 3 years
There is a money and time back guarantee that goes with that.
>Do you have any time-frame on the time it takes to attain liberation with the focused practice of the Flame in the Heart?
Liberation from rebirth is available to most at a higher level of enlightenment.
From reading the 21 Steps thread multiple times you may have understood that there are rules about the stages of initiation some of which concern the amount of lower subplane matter in the light body.
Discharge of lower subplane matter is commonly limited by karma, trauma and personal development.
The 21 Steps process is a focused version of the Flame in the Heart and enables targeting of irregularities in the light body. Speed of progress (including accumulation of higher subplane matter) varies with practice, right livelihood, right relationship, group karma and cosmic season.
The would-be initiate undergoes inner tests including functionality on critical subplanes. Part of the homework for this is accumulating matter for the target subplanes and fashioning it into sense organs so that coherent action is possible.
>the Kriya Yoga route may be one I eventually wish to walk.
What we wish changes as we unfold.
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Post by lazarus on Mar 29, 2018 0:26:48 GMT 9.5
This exercise has many subtle effects and for many people is all that is required for a long time. The objective is to connect to Spirit where it anchors in the body and bring Light to all parts of the body and thereby to all the energies and intelligences in and connected to the body. So, sit quietly with the spine erect and the feet and arms uncrossed, preferably in a quiet place. Put the attention in the heart (centre of the chest - midway up the sternum). Visualise a vertical flame of Spirit in the heart. Notice the height, width and colour of the flame. Visualise an aura of golden-white light around the flame in the heart. That light emanating from the flame will be used to fill and thereby condition the physical body and the light body (aura). Now using the heart to push, push golden-white light down the left leg into the foot and out into the Earth. Push the light as a tight clockwise spiral down through the thigh bone and shin bone, out into the Earth. As this is the first time, take some time with this. The foot often will start to tingle as the cells respond to the Light. Now draw the light back up from the Earth, now spiraling anticlockwise, through the muscles and flesh. Bring the light up to the left hipjoint and stop there. With practice the whole of the left leg will be filled with light and have a soft tingle. Now do the right leg - push with the heart, light clockwise through the bones and anti-clockwise up through the flesh. Now attention back to the heart and push light downwards as a large clockwise spiral filling the whole of the abdomen. Back to the heart - expand the light, push it out to fill the chest cavity - from front to back and from side to side. Back to the heart - push the light into the left shoulder then into the arm - clockwise spiral filling the arm and out through the hand - one way only. Same with the right shoulder and arm. Back to the heart - push a spiral of light upwards anticlockwise filling the throat into the brain - carefully filling the brain with light and then push the light out through the skull into the hair. At this stage since the body is filled with light the eye may become single as referenced in the New Testament. This exercise ought to take about 20 minutes when first being done. Later, as the exercise accelerates the shedding of denser substance from the body it becomes more sensitive to Light and responds quite quickly. The denser substance contains trauma and karma and predisposes to dark behaviour. The exercise can be done as often as convenient - but a minimum of twice a day is recommended. One of the key skills being learned here is the use of the heart chakra - the natural focus of humanity. The exercise accelerates the integration and refinement of the personality so that it may progessively transmit more Spirit. Golden-white light has specific qualities particularly useful to humans. I would be interested in reports of progress. hello, paul, new member here. a member from another forum shared the link of this thread with me. I tried the exercise and have a couple of questions if you don´t mind. my first issue had to do with proper visualisation I think. maybe this is because I have no experience with that kind of practice, but right at the beginning I encountered the problem of finding a 'point of view' for picturing the flame. seems like I cant keep the image because I´m not sure about the perspective I should be 'looking' at it, you know? I hope this makes sense... so my first question is, how do I 'fix' it, if there´s an answer for that... after being able to somewhat picture the flame and the aura, I realized I didnt know how to link the light with my leg, so I just expanded it till it touched the hip, imagined the heart contracting first then pumping the current through the bones in a single spiralling burst, really fast. are those procedures correct? as for the flame, it looks quite thin, the inner portion bright white, then a faint yellow layer and glowing blue outside. for some reason, the aura wont get too bright, rather faint in fact... I didnt get passed the first part of the exercise (pushing the light into the earth). I was drained after only a few minutes. one last question, you say this exercise fills the body with light first, so the pineal will then be 'lit' as a consequence, right? so how does this method relate to the 'squaring of the circle', the salts, conscious assimilation of elements and so forth? I mean, are these different, independent methods or is this exercise a kind of 'section' of the practice, so to say? I´ve been reading your posts since a couple of days and would like to wholeheartedly thank you for sharing your time and knowledge with us!
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