Keys of Encoh

[LorrB]

Thanks for the link foxfires. Have saved it to the iPad and will have a read, it has been recommended to me previously and I have never got around to it.

Has anyone out there read this book?
Is it Trash or Treasure?

(Mind you many of my Treasures are considered Trash by some others... and I don't care - we each build out own temples with the stones we find, and my temple is looking and feeling pretty good)

[cwhite]

A little of both, in my humble opinion.

[LorrB]

Thanks for the feedback cwhite - it will be an interesting read then, nothing like finding a treasure hidden amidst the ordinary.

[sammy]

It is true that some things need to be learned to form a belief. I also agree with Fox, some things will cross a line and that lesson is also important. Also as Fox mentions this would require understanding toward a solution and not a problem as a result. To acquire this destination it will take patience along its steps.

This is largely the reason I say both are needed toward a universal solution of man made systems. I see it like this... Patience leads to truth, which leads to understanding, which leads toward belief. The belief promotes inner growth which leads to affirmation and further enlightenment.

[sammy]

Thank you for clarifying that Fox, I had not mentioned the cycle. I see it the same way. The process I mentioned begins with truth, but yes like everything else that is relative.

[paul]

>Contact with higher self seems such an opportunity

It certainly is. I am however reminded of some medical interns that I knew long ago, who were a bit inclined to answer the phone with: Hello, City Morgue!

So how does one know whether the incoming intelligence is what it says?

[fjrogers]

> So how does one know whether the incoming intelligence is what it says?

I suppose you could be faced with a problem there.

[paul]

>I suppose you could be faced with a problem there.

It is possible to use "working tools" in a moral sense.

[pointwithinacircle]

Nov 6, 2016 18:03:13 GMT 9.5 paul said:

It is possible to use "working tools" in a moral sense.

That's why they can it mysticism, when people say stuff like this I am mystified as to their actual process. And the longer I am a Mason the more mystified I am by such phrases. Sorry, maybe it is late and I am just tired.

[paul]

>when people say stuff like this I am mystified as to their actual process

Here is a simple experiment based on what is veiled by the "square" as a working tool:

- Visualize a pavement of alternating black and white squares
- Visualize someone you know to have outstandingly good character and put them on the pavement
- How do they interact with the squares?
- Visualize someone you know to be clearly of bad character and put them on the pavement
- How do they interact with the squares?

Thus we learn to use the square in a moral sense.

[paul]

>This seems cookbook rasing a dead square by rules

It is just a simple experiment with a set of squares. Success can lead to a range of useful skills.

[fjrogers]

> Here is a simple experiment based on what is veiled by the "square" as a working tool:

- Visualize a pavement of alternating black and white squares
- Visualize someone you know to have outstandingly good character and put them on the pavement
- How do they interact with the squares?
- Visualize someone you know to be clearly of bad character and put them on the pavement
- How do they interact with the squares?

When you conduct the experiment with someone of good character the squares seem to brighten and tune in with the individual. With someone of bad character the opposite happens.

[fjrogers]

> When you conduct the experiment with someone of good character the squares seem to brighten and tune in with the individual. With someone of bad character the opposite happens.

Energies and vibrations would be involved here.

[paul]

>When you conduct the experiment with someone of good character the squares seem to brighten and tune in with the individual. With someone of bad character the opposite happens.

So now you can use the square in a moral sense.

[paul]

>it seems certain energies desire Mortals to develop intuition some seems perhaps / maybe FEELING what needs to be done

> seems to me people are or were supposed to get still or quiet to find the connection

It is perhaps worth distinguishing intuition from feeling.

In my experience intuition is knowing without experiencing. Whereas feeling necessarily requires an intermediary of physical, emotion or mental sensation/perception. Any intermediary is of course limited by culture, programming and trauma and thereby colors the experience.

Being still is a state that progressively requires stillness in the physical, emotional and mental bodies. This allows the human to experience its spiritual aspects without the intrusion of feelings and thoughts.

In the silence the human is able to resonate more clearly with Spirit.

Now the human, when acting in the 3 worlds (physical, emotional and mental), may for example:

- act randomly
- act instinctively based on the programming and trauma of the 3 bodies
- act in accordance with some logical or philosophical framework
- carry out some instruction or agenda apparently received from an external intelligence
- perceive somewhat of a higher purpose behind Existence and attempt to act rhythmically
- be an instrument of Spirit (through the intervention of a higher being).

At various stages in development humans tend to prefer some modes of action to the others.

Late in the development of Western theology there appeared the concept of humans as Co-Creators. Co-creation necessarily involves some delegated responsibility to the particular human. The exercise of this responsibility typically involves learning through mistakes and failures.

There are also skills to be acquired. Some of these skills are veiled in Freemasonry under the concept of using the working tools in a moral sense. These skills allow testing of some of the preconditions for success in a proposed line of action.

In my experience very few humans apply themselves seriously to the development of such metaphysical skills.

[fjrogers]

> So now you can use the square in a moral sense.

Yes, you can. It depends on the intent and mindset of the individual concerned.

[paul]

>For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

A few years after my parents had both passed away I asked my mother about my father - as they seemed to me to be some distance apart in terms of planes and subplanes. She replied that she did not see (catch sight of) him too often.

On the basis of that single observation, it may well be that marriage ceases with death.

[paul]

>Yoga Nidra

It is a good exercise. For myself I think it is worth bringing Spirit more directly into the process.

[fjrogers]

> On the basis of that single observation, it may well be that marriage ceases with death.

I really don't think marriage has the same meaning at all after death. Marriage is merely an institution in the physical world.

> Yoga Nidra

It is a good exercise. For myself I think it is worth bringing Spirit more directly into the process.

That's probably right.