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Post by paul on May 10, 2014 6:49:02 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on May 11, 2014 8:26:09 GMT 9.5
>So perhaps we are just pawns in use by higher powers That might be so. The interconnections of the far-out stories are quite interesting. For example: - The original war hero Hitler is replaced and the replacement manages to conquer most of Europe and beyond by dominating the consciousness of millions and by using some very advanced technology - Crowley claims to be involved with the replacement of Hitler and to be a double agent between the Nazis and the British, and is out of sight at critical times - Crowley is also said to be involved with Montauk and time travel. There are intimations in the film Chemical Wedding- Montauk is said to be part of a much larger project over very long time periods (with time travel used to manipulate current events) - Montauk sources put the earliest modern contact by aliens with German groups as around 1915 with technology transfer effective by 1923 (anti-gravity craft and a portal) (Crowley received instruction by an alien source about the same time) - Montauk sources indicate genetic breeding is perhaps the core objective - The Nazis pursued genetic cleansing even more aggressively when it became clear that they would lose the war in Europe (but only by the extra month needed to put new technology into the field - hence the Battle of the Bulge when the tanks ran out of fuel) - Advanced German scientists were transferred to the US in large numbers including some with later Montauk connections. Since Nazis set up the CIA and infiltrated and/or dominated all areas of critical technology, it remains unclear who won the war. Indeed there are modern comparisons between Germany in the 1930s and the present US. - Montauk was funded originally by Nazi gold and later by an international consortium - It remains unclear what species oversee Montauk. It seems that Hitler was part of a much larger scheme, see for example: The Thousand Year Conspiracy"Those who see in National Socialism nothing more than a political movement know scarcely anything of it. It is more even than religion; it is the will to create mankind anew.” www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/hitler-quotes/A new mankind, but for whose purposes?
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Post by paul on May 11, 2014 8:58:50 GMT 9.5
"In one of these alternate realities, a Montauk subject entered another timestream where the allied powers had lost to Germany, who then spread its colonies across the world. North American cities were in shambles as a result of tensions between German imperial powers and local uprisings. The time traveler was forced to take shelter from the gunfire in a German building that was manufacturing streetcleaner type tanks. " www.whale.to/b/quantum.htmlHow do we know that the time stream in which I write this post is the most important or the dominant time stream? Hence the magnetic power of the Nazi regime even 70 years after it lost the war in Europe
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Post by stewartedwards on May 11, 2014 15:15:11 GMT 9.5
While it annoys some of our politicians, some of our people (across the political spectrum funnily enough) do see our current government in the UK as being of this ilk. One of our Baronesses was on tv a couple of years back talking about how she sees disabled people getting spat on in the street, and from pushing a wheelchair daily I can tell you that attitudes towards disabled people have become less kind. Our welfare state is being capitalised right across the board (made more cost-effective or eliminated depending on your perspective), and in many ways we are turning into a small America (zero hour contracts etc [some of which bar you from taking other jobs - according to this weeks Economist]. Food banks are a fact of life now. Every town has them. All this in 4 years.
I like to think that it is simply youthful exuberance from our politicians who decided to try to reinvigourate our nation (which it does need), but who through choosing to change everything at once right across the board, have gone to far too fast, but when you hear our prime Minister stand up in Parliament and talk about "Hard Working Decent people" you just think of all the people who simply cant get jobs, or who lost them through austerity economics - they are not undecent. (don't believe our unemployment statistics - a lot of new jobs are part time, zero hours, and if you make the slightest error (and allegedly often not your fault due to arguably increasing admin errors from new computer systems not working and being scrapped to be re done etc) you get sanctioned [from 2 weeks to 2 years], money stopped and kicked off the register - we are talking large numbers of people in all this). The police [food shoplifters], jobcentres [benefit delays] and doctors [for health reasons] now routinely give out food bank vouchers - for most food banks you need these to gain access as they are very busy.
Sadly it does seem that the darker energies of the early part of the last century are gaining a hold again, in a country (mine) that really should know better. On facebook etc you will often see doctored posts of our leading politicians in Nazi guise, a reflection of what many British people really think.
For me I am simply hoping that the British spirit of fair play will ultimately win the day.
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Post by sammy on May 12, 2014 22:46:25 GMT 9.5
It seems like he wasn't always in a path of destruction, im still not sure why he went to such insane depths as he did though(((crazy))).
Here is some interesting backstory about what kept bringing Adolf out of a righteous path.
A farmer and bee keeper at this point. Daddy had a bad book though, that got his thinker ticking. Then goes on to sing in choir and consider being a priest (although I think he considered himself close to a priest in his own head and possibly part of why he took the responsibility of directing religion and race). Adolf's brother dying I think was one of the straws to break the camels back, but this was the biggest one...
I think in WW1 we see Hitler weak from mental and physical health, with very little meaning or direction in his life(possibly why he joined the military instead of continuing art). It seems obvious Adolf was eating MUCH better as a leader then he was a resident, his face filled out more, even in another pic of him from WW1 (below) he was more filled out. Although a lot of the health issues just could have been due to their trials in WW1, low food, disease, etc...
It always shocks me how much some Jewish people did for him, and he still pursued his bloody path. Although im sure the copious amounts of meth weren't helping either.
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Post by sammy on May 12, 2014 22:51:14 GMT 9.5
Just noticed...
The smaller his mustache got, the worse he became!
Its like a humanity meter, and his just kept shrinking till the end. HAHA
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Post by paul on May 13, 2014 7:29:22 GMT 9.5
..... not sure why he went to such insane depths as he did though(((crazy))). Once someone is labelled as insane there is little more to understand. But if the person is not regarded as insane then there may be much to learn. Churchill apparently decided that the Nuremberg trials were to ignore the spiritual foundations of National Socialism on the grounds that the world was not ready to put a religion on trial.
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Post by paul on May 13, 2014 7:47:24 GMT 9.5
His diet seems to have affected his eyes, their distance from the nose, the structure of the upper lids and perhaps the ear lobes.
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Post by sammy on May 14, 2014 0:01:53 GMT 9.5
..... not sure why he went to such insane depths as he did though(((crazy))). Once someone is labelled as insane there is little more to understand. But if the person is not regarded as insane then there may be much to learn. Churchill apparently decided that the Nuremberg trials were to ignore the spiritual foundations of National Socialism on the grounds that the world was not ready to put a religion on trial.
I would consider the depth he went insane... Like seriously. Not past the point of learning. We have learned much from the psychopaths of our history, but its still way past the point of sanity.
Im not saying others are much better. America destroyed two entire cities like the drop of a hat. The survivors were left to slowly deteriorate from the radiation poisoning, going through agonizing pain and suffering before dying. Women, children, animals, the bombs were not bias to who they destroyed.
With this my only thought left is murder/war is crazy, and never the answer, but still mostly the problem with humanity.
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Post by sammy on May 14, 2014 0:24:56 GMT 9.5
His diet seems to have affected his eyes, their distance from the nose, the structure of the upper lids and perhaps the ear lobes. I found more about his injuries during the war. This is most likely why his eyes changed so much and why his health was so poor in the pics when he is in the field.
Leg wound and two bouts of blindness from mustard gas(one psychosomatic) will take it outa ya. HAHA
Im not sure what is going on with the ear lobes. In some pics they are the same shape and height, in others the left lobe is actually smaller. You can just barely see the left ear shape in this pic, which is much different then all the other pics.
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Post by LorrB on May 14, 2014 9:14:34 GMT 9.5
Still happens.
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Post by sammy on May 14, 2014 22:25:12 GMT 9.5
Americans were the Indians once upon a time. France and Spain made their mark, as did the British and Irish nations. Then all these white people came and took all the land, then start calling themselves Americans. So if you want to get technical on how this greed and lust came over here... It came from over there. Even with this the whites were not trying for genocide. They just wanted more and more land, and the government kept saying they could take it. After all they bought it at 4 cents per acre(Louisiana purchase), and they weren't gonna go back home the easy way.
However I don't see how this discussion is pertaining to the one at hand. Hitler wanted genocide on a race and religion, and this is why he stood out over Stalin's atrocities during their time when he was killing millions of his own devoted citizens. Hitler wasn't trying to take the Jewish lands, he was trying to get rid of the Jewish people specifically.
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Post by LorrB on May 16, 2014 9:42:36 GMT 9.5
I saw "The Turk" in action just this past week. They opened up the mechanics for all to see and then got the current chess champion to play the machine. The machine won. Even the chess champion was astounded. Amazing.
And they still do not know how the machine does it.
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2014 7:24:19 GMT 9.5
>What would an egotistical maniac who looses at life
It is not at all clear to me that Hitler comes into that category. Eye witness accounts of him, including before and after public speeches, indicate to me that another intelligence was repeatedly involved.
>SO does evil really exist? Or is it classified an unspent emotion?
From the perspective of Earth humans, evil does exist, but I suspect that "evil" is the fallout from cosmic relationships gone wrong and perhaps from cosmic substance misused.
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2014 20:20:19 GMT 9.5
Evil is a perception A 33 day old baby who throws a scream when hungry is called loveable and sweet and kind / pure A 33 year old man who screams when hungry gets called evil In my view it is proper for the infant to have a strong dark energy so that it draws to itself what it needs to survive. As the child matures it is expected to have a greater proportion of light (givingness). If it does not achieve this it may be referred to as a spoiled child. Maintaining too much light or too much dark, can both be regarded as evil.
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2014 7:48:25 GMT 9.5
> Maintaining too much light or too much dark, can both be regarded as evil. Well could the case of St Theresa and Saint Francis be forgiven by most following your logic for Maintaining too much light If we consider that dark energy is for building structures such as bodies and personalities and light is for giving energy and substance to others, then we can see that some mothers burn themselves out by giving too much and not taking enough time to regenerate their bodies and emotions. Burn-out could be considered evil in some contexts. In other contexts there might be a conscious choice to burn out. I recall when my first born was an infant I used to lie on my back and let him sleep on my chest. At the end of each session I would be aware of a large gap in my etheric structure where he had lain. He was building his body by taking from mine. I kept the process within due limits
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2014 7:53:13 GMT 9.5
...cases of Failure to thrive seem to have been preordained ... I recall visiting a friend and wife with their 6 month daughter. The daughter looked rather wooden to me so was not surprised when she was a cot death shortly after. As far as I can see, the incoming soul typically has about 30 months to decide if it wants to continue the incarnation, and can withdraw without problems by then. For example, the incoming soul might find the parents or situation unsuited. I have also observed at least one case of the soul in a pregnancy withdrawing and being replaced by another. The mother was very aware of the difference. The first soul required that the mother meditate every day and the second soul had no interest in meditation. The change seemed to have been triggered by the couple's decision to leave the spiritual community in which they lived. I might conclude that the first soul was more interested in the community than the parents. I did not observe whether the first soul took up with other parents in the community, but I have seen a similar second choice occur closer to home.
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2014 8:05:29 GMT 9.5
... Shiva the destroyer more or less was keep me stoned on opium or things get rough and it started to destroy the world .. Some of the gods visiting Earth might be reasonably considered to be carpetbaggers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarpetbaggerThey inflicted large amounts of collateral damage to keep out competitors. (Vengeance is mine saith the Lord)
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Post by Heru on Jun 24, 2017 16:26:18 GMT 9.5
Couldn't a strong passion for nationalism also explain some of his actions?
A overriding love for ones own country can be the driving force for many of histories atrocities.
All nationalism does at the end of the day is divide and cause conflict/competition between the nations.
When humanity spoke one language and was a united single nation it achieved the unthinkable according to the tale of Babel,so much so that God decided to destroy,scatter and divide humans.
Paul do you have any references as to Crowley and his possible involvement with Hitler?
I am saying this more theoretically of course as I know there was a lot more going on behind the scenes but thought nationalism should be brought into the picture still.
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Post by paul on Jun 24, 2017 16:38:02 GMT 9.5
>also explain some of his actions?
Having generated an explanation can we test for validity?
As it happened Himmler was very pleased to capture Norway as he thought their genetics were better than that of the Germans - for breeding the new race.
Germany was a means to an end, hence Hitler (an Austrian) was happy to see it destroyed when it proved insufficient for his purposes.
>God decided to destroy,scatter and divide humans
Why would God destroy his own creation? This is a theological account repurposing the actions of other gods.
>any references as to Crowley and his possible involvement with Hitler
Crowley told stories about himself as a spy. Most of them are barely credible. He does however show up in the Montauk literature and that I take more seriously. This means alien interaction with Crowley as he had claimed from his time in Cairo.
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