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Post by LorrB on Apr 14, 2014 12:22:41 GMT 9.5
I was instructed in a dream 'to drop the seeds to the ground and let them grow'. I was also told that I did not have to care for them in any way, that would be taken care of by others. My job was just to drop the seeds.
This forum is the result of that dream.
I have learned much here - lol - seems what you sow you reap.
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Post by sammy on Apr 14, 2014 22:41:37 GMT 9.5
Your dad did eventually realize the survivors were the ones still alive... right? Would it not be the path of the enlightened one to do so?
I agree stress can be a great motivator. But so can greed, vengeance, love, justice, and everything else that people will use to excuse their actions. Humans don't need a patsy they want one, so one is found. Until each looks inward for blame and control, we will not have stability in mind or body that we need.
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Post by sammy on Apr 14, 2014 23:13:12 GMT 9.5
We as humans like to blame other things for everything, much like a lucky pair of underpants.
Let's say we are all in this cave at the moment. The enlightened one has returned to the prisoners, with the task to guide them toward the light. He could say "follow me and be free" and some might follow and some might not, neither understands this freedom but the ones who followed understood freedom and followed in hope.
The ones still in the cave would not leave, because their lucky underpants had gotten them this far and they have hope it will continue. ---------------------- So lets reset again to the enlightened ones return.
Rather then mere hope on words, the enlightened one wants the prisoners to walk the path outward as their own personal journey. Allowing each prisoner to continue at their own comfort as they approach the blinding sun.
Lets say again a new baby is added to the ranks of the prisoners, one meant to be grown up the same as the others staring at the wall. Since the enlightened one is already free and this child is unconditioned, he can take the child with him as he travels in and out of the cave. Once the child is old enough, he will have lived both lives, as the prisoner and also as the enlightened one. His philosophies would be surrounding the darkness of the cave to the burning of the light. He would find common factors of each side to appeal to the prisoners, as he wants his brothers free as well.
This new person is now half one and half the other. The prisoners are left a 50/50 understanding on the two sides, and are left with the equal choice. They can go or they can stay, but the majority are leaving to be freed. This freedom tips the hat, they will live in the prison cave, as they will live on the surface. But only on the surface are they free from a pre-determined life.
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Post by sammy on Apr 15, 2014 6:39:13 GMT 9.5
Your dad did eventually realize the survivors were the ones still alive... right? Would it not be the path of the enlightened one to do so?.... Your first question assumes something I would not assume! Would it not be the path of the enlightened one to do so?.... I am not sure what a yes or would mean after reading your question a few times. There does not seem to be a direct and or specific question that I can easily understand or decide what a yes or no would indicate If you hold the knowledge that burying survivors, would actually be burying people alive (enlightened knowledge of the illusion). Would it not be your job to let the person burying them know that as well? Or would it be best to let the cave dweller follow his blind path and bury the ones "lost" in the crash, unknowing he has just sealed their fate?
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Post by LorrB on Apr 15, 2014 8:55:53 GMT 9.5
Burying survivors alive is an old trick question.... I got it wrong the first time too - LOL Apparently most people do.
Which makes me wonder about the weight we seem to place of some words. We weighted the word bury and assumed the rest of the sentence. We see a word which triggers an automatic response. This is no big deal for the most part, provides an interesting mirror for us to see how we operate providing we are game enough to look in that mirror. I try to avoid it - lol.
Do you think that we take life too seriously sometimes? Jesus suggested that we should be more like children ... for such is the kingdom of heaven and all that.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 15, 2014 9:01:40 GMT 9.5
Would you tell a blind woman she was the ugliest woman on the planet for any reason She probably would not believe it anyway ... when one sense is diminished the other senses are enhanced I am told. She would see the attack for what it was. From my experience it is only those that one admires and respects who can truly hurt you.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 15, 2014 9:08:44 GMT 9.5
... Sammy's New Symbol thread made me think of our old symbols. Three versions of the one, what rings true to you when you view them. Please feel free to add other images on the same theme. What goes round comes round ? We can only operate within limits ? And can we push the boundaries? Let the sun shine - in difficulties and differences ? The two Sts John remind me of working with the Law and Love. Anyone else got some thoughts?
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Post by sammy on Apr 15, 2014 9:55:44 GMT 9.5
... Sammy's New Symbol thread made me think of our old symbols. Three versions of the one, what rings true to you when you view them. Please feel free to add other images on the same theme. What goes round comes round ? We can only operate within limits ? And can we push the boundaries? Let the sun shine - in difficulties and differences ? The two Sts John remind me of working with the Law and Love. Anyone else got some thoughts?
Just more of the same ones Lorr!
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Post by paul on Apr 15, 2014 12:12:12 GMT 9.5
>The two Sts John remind me of working with the Law and Love.
While the 2 Sts John are reputed to refer to the summer and winter solstice (and obliquely perhaps to the location of Jerusalem), it is perhaps more useful to consider that John the Baptist initiated (baptised) Jesus if John the Beloved was Lazarus (the disciple Jesus loved) then the second St John is the first raising of the new cycle.
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Post by sammy on Apr 15, 2014 22:19:47 GMT 9.5
One way to express a lot of things is by showing someone else's work might a good way to understand something, and the ordeal would depart from me telling another what to do and they get to keep their own free will choice and as an Advisor I am not obligated to feel responsible for another's free will being tweaked by my motives or propensities www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0EN7S5fUo is an explanation of hard cutting the dread of needing to know just data or info as proofs or dogma limitations upon humans and as they are taught things it slows them down if taken personally or self benchmarking is executed AS a kid could get this easier than most PHD's AS a PHD more or less had to be come emotionally subject to so many teachers who were emotionally unstable and could end their education process if they were offended by what a student composed or discussed AND there is the issue of being labeled as a heretic or stripping them of degree and rank and file SO kids got it way easier as they had not had to fight to keep their hearts protected from hard hearted persons of power and control And kids of past were tortured to become socially / intellectually approved of by the main stream, and groups of alleged friends seem more of groups of people who dislike the same people so basically enemies clubs or on a lesser note we despise similar people and things so lets go complain about who or what we do not enjoy and call it friendship, while we make those we do not like feel as uncomfortable as we can and raise hi noise about them and their doings I applaud your ability to hold a neutral stance. I do also understand what you are saying about this subject of "help" to others. However things from a personal aspect are seen as thus: they agree, or they disagree.
Choosing not to engage isn't disagreeing but it isn't agreeing either. This kind of goes into a hypocrite aspect here. Because when a person is offering help to another, you do disagree with the imposing action of that. In essence telling the helper not to help. This starts to turn this neutral mindset into a double negative, and allows no growth because neither side is being supported to you or the recipient.
I am not saying we need to go around and tell people how to do everything. I am saying though that when someone is ready to learn, the teacher should have the knowledge be at hand.
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Post by sammy on Apr 16, 2014 0:08:35 GMT 9.5
> ...This kind of goes into a hypocrite aspect here.... > ... I am saying though that when someone is ready to learn, the teacher should have the knowledge be at hand...
As you desire u might find what u think is the reality you earnestly desire to manifest for yourself
But it seems you need to indicate where I am a Hypocrite and should change the way I whatever does not feel right to you and tend to have been taught that you should be able to tell a teacher how to conduct their class and who they should allow to attend and the ways they and others should instruct
Meanwhile it seems Saturn is barfing up one of previously swallowed childrens from it's rings Image below!!!
I know of multiple children who if allowed would say or do anything to get daddy's 44 magnum and go city hunting in the back yard to get ride of rodents AND if allowed the kids would make the parent feel awful for not giving them their desires instantly " the often repeated emotion of I want what I wants and I wants it now comes to mind and the empirical proof is how they make u feel when they loose the emotional game and cry as they go of to sleep Swearing how much they hate you and how mean and inconsiderate a parent you are for not letting them do like bigger kids do! And you might just be asking them to hold off and they insist they are old enough and provide plethora's of reason why and they will not slow down
How could any except a student know what true wisdom is , The teacher probably needs to told exactly what he needs to do, by the student, and for him to be advised as such, AND to be properly read in on the way thing will be as the students predicate the class room situation and only allow teachers that tell them what they desire to hear
If the student has taught the teacher would not the roles switch for this purpose? It would be the lacking of the teacher, not able to grow in his wisdom and assumes he knows all over the students.
You say for me to not impose on another's will. So what is this statement doing then?
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One way to express a lot of things is by showing someone else's work might a good way to understand something, and the ordeal would depart from me telling another what to do and they get to keep their own free will choice and as an Advisor I am not obligated to feel responsible for another's free will being tweaked by my motives or propensities www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0EN7S5fUo is an explanation of hard cutting the dread of needing to know just data or info as proofs or dogma limitations upon humans and as they are taught things it slows them down if taken personally or self benchmarking is executed AS a kid could get this easier than most PHD's AS a PHD more or less had to be come emotionally subject to so many teachers who were emotionally unstable and could end their education process if they were offended by what a student composed or discussed AND there is the issue of being labeled as a heretic or stripping them of degree and rank and file SO kids got it way easier as they had not had to fight to keep their hearts protected from hard hearted persons of power and control
And kids of past were tortured to become socially / intellectually approved of by the main stream, and groups of alleged friends seem more of groups of people who dislike the same people so basically enemies clubs or on a lesser note we despise similar people and things so lets go complain about who or what we do not enjoy and call it friendship, while we make those we do not like feel as uncomfortable as we can and raise hi noise about them and their doings You impose on my will for me not to speak of such matters as each is to his own, but you do this from a stand point of not imposing on others will. This is hypocritical. ----------------------------------------
As it stands I have not "told" anyone to do anything. I have been discussing hypotheticals. On the other hand you have been telling me its wrong, and telling me the reasons why. Again, I say this line is counterproductive, and it does not make my walk easier. I do not hold a investment in this line or any other outside of the path back home, and I will not force its placement on any other. But it is my path, and not yours to decide.
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Post by sammy on Apr 16, 2014 0:41:30 GMT 9.5
As for your backyard boys analogy, this is a good aspect to use. It is not with me you are arguing this point. It is historical fact. The minority will take on the aspects of the majority not because its "mind control" or "main stream", but because it is a matter of survival and efficiency. A French man would not expect to come to America and be able to sit down and order his dinner without speaking or understanding a word of English along the way. We might be able to "point" at things and hope our choice is right, but how would you know what your even pointing at? There exists a spectrum, and within that spectrum certain avenues prevail (evolution of food chain). It is not the biggest that is the deciding factor, nor the smallest. It is the one that worked best that comes out ahead.
It is patterns of Mankind, not my own motives in play.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 16, 2014 8:07:03 GMT 9.5
Talking about restaurants ... years ago I went to an Italian restaurant with a friend who had just spent 2 years in Rome. I absolutely/repeatedly insisted that this fellow impress me by ordering the meal in Italian. He eventually gave in and gave the order in perfect Italian to the swarthy waiter.
The waiter replied "er 'scuse me sir, I am Hungarian, would you please order in Englis' "
HAH! That taught me a lesson and it still makes me laugh when I think of it.
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Post by sammy on Apr 16, 2014 9:02:33 GMT 9.5
Talking about restaurants ... years ago I went to an Italian restaurant with a friend who had just spent 2 years in Rome. I absolutely/repeatedly insisted that this fellow impress me by ordering the meal in Italian. He eventually gave in and gave the order in perfect Italian to the swarthy waiter. The waiter replied "er 'scuse me sir, I am Hungarian, would you please order in Englis' " HAH! That taught me a lesson and it still makes me laugh when I think of it.
HAHAHA I love it!
Being a chef trained at a true Italian restaurant in the heart of little Italy in Cleveland Oh, I am here to tell you your friend would have had the same luck there too HAHA. The owner spoke Italian, who might be in the lobby. But most who spoke it were in the kitchen (an additional 2 people HAHA), or also a lot of the customers.
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Post by LorrB on Nov 11, 2014 13:51:34 GMT 9.5
Horoscopes?
Can't read them unfortunately.
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Post by paul on Nov 12, 2014 7:00:22 GMT 9.5
That chart site is quite good. It gives interpretations of each component in your chart.
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Post by paul on Mar 15, 2020 13:44:56 GMT 9.5
>not much help to readers (seemingly)
The few that post here these days are not standard issue humans
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