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Post by LorrB on Sept 5, 2013 8:47:29 GMT 9.5
From Canopies to Words ...
I was also drawn to the references to mirrors ... we have so many 'reflections' in Freemasonry. As Above, so below?
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Post by LorrB on Sept 5, 2013 9:04:13 GMT 9.5
"The heart may conceive and the head devise in vain if the hand be not prompt to execute the design."
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Post by paul on Sept 7, 2013 7:29:46 GMT 9.5
" In every ancient language the word dragon signified what it now does in Chinese — (lang) i.e., “the being who excels in intelligence” and in Greek [[drakon]], or “he who sees and watches.” And is it to the animal of that name that any of these epithets can apply? Is it not evident, wherever superstition and oblivion of the primitive meaning may have led savages now, that the said qualifications were intended to apply to the human originals, who were symbolized by serpents and dragons? These “originals” — called to this day in China “the Dragons of Wisdom” — were the first disciples of the Dhyanis, who were their instructors; in short, the primitive adepts of the Third Race, and later, of the Fourth and Fifth Races. " www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-11.htmI usually see the Lord of the World in the form of a dragon. Sometimes it is good to go with the flow.
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Post by paul on Jan 4, 2017 7:34:49 GMT 9.5
The only serpent that I have seen referenced in Masonry is the King of Terrors. But I have not examined the lesser degrees in Scottish Masonry.
JPS Tanakh Job 18
A noose is hid for him in the ground, And a trap for him in the way. 11Terrors shall overwhelm him on every side, And shall entrap him at his feet. 12His trouble shall be ravenous, And calamity shall be ready for his fall. 13It shall devour the members of his body, Yea, the first-born of death shall devour his members. 14That wherein he trusteth shall be plucked out of his tent; And he shall be brought to the king of terrors. 15There shall dwell in his tent that which is none of his; Brimstone shall be scattered upon his habitation. 16His roots shall dry up beneath, And above shall his branch wither. 17His remembrance shall perish from the earth, And he shall have no name abroad.
So first there are terrors on every side catching his feet and then the first born of death eats his limbs and then he is taken to the king of terrors. Strangers live in his tent and no one remembers his name - presumably because his relatives and friends died too.
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Post by fjrogers on Feb 15, 2017 12:34:28 GMT 9.5
I believe the serpent was a fairly important symbol in Atlantis. It carried over to Egypt and Greece with may important meanings including: eternity, creation, destruction, life and death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
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Post by paul on Feb 15, 2017 13:38:22 GMT 9.5
It seems to me likely that the serpent gods were/are the gods of Earth humanity. EA was a serpent-human that bred Earth humanity as servants/slaves. Isis and Osiris were serpents as were the founders of China and of course Quetzlcoatl - the plumed serpent - also the Rainbow Serpent that created the Australian landscape. Albion was the son of Poseidon - a sea god and hence amphibious and probably scaled like Osiris. The serpent-human people were known to the Hindus as Nagas. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%81gaThus I suspect that serpent gods are literal and not symbolic.
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Post by fjrogers on Feb 17, 2017 11:41:54 GMT 9.5
It seems to me likely that the serpent gods were/are the gods of Earth humanity. EA was a serpent-human that bred Earth humanity as servants/slaves. Isis and Osiris were serpents as were the founders of China and of course Quetzlcoatl - the plumed serpent - also the Rainbow Serpent that created the Australian landscape. Albion was the son of Poseidon - a sea god and hence amphibious and probably scaled like Osiris. The serpent-human people were known to the Hindus as Nagas. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%81gaThus I suspect that serpent gods are literal and not symbolic. Yes, I honestly do believe that serpent gods were literal and not just symbolic. I know that there were fish-like beings on the earth at one time in France.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2017 5:09:23 GMT 9.5
> how do u know? A woman I worked with saw a "man" come up out of the water near a local beach. He looked straight at her and then disappeared back into the water and did not reemerge. She said she was the only one on the beach at the time. I guessed that this was an amphibian and asked her if he was "repulsive" - this being the traditional but incorrect translation of annedotus. She said he was. So I then found this image and asked if he looked like this and she said he looked just like that. I have known her reasonably well for a decade and know that she has a range of odd experiences, particularly since her near death experience. I have no doubt about her account. This picture is of Anu, also known as The Most High. In the Sumerian tradition, Anu was the cup bearer for Alalu, the senior god, until he overthrew him and become the heavenly sovereign himself. Notice that the image has a low forehead. From what I have read the Neanderthals had an occipital bun (bulge at the back of the head) thereby having larger brain capacity than homo sapiens. The above image could well indicate that the some of the gods were related to Neanderthals. Of course there was another group with skulls elongated vertically, as imitated by homo sapiens wearing very tall hats and headdresses.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2017 5:22:27 GMT 9.5
Here is another depiction of Anu Note the horizontal waves in the beard in both images and the very large eyes
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2017 5:27:03 GMT 9.5
Here is a Sumerian goddess. Note the head gear is the same as appears on the carved depiction of Anu. This head gear also appears as the horns on the helmets of Norse traditions.
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Post by fjrogers on Feb 18, 2017 15:51:49 GMT 9.5
> The above image could well indicate that the some of the gods were related to Neanderthals.
Neanderthals did, I believe, have a good size brain. I think there were some knowledgeable people among them who had taken initiatic rites. I'm not sure that we really know much about their inside story.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2017 19:44:51 GMT 9.5
It seems that all the figures in the carving have their noses smashed. Why was that done?
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Post by seekinglight on Jun 14, 2017 0:37:12 GMT 9.5
Speaking of serpent worship I had the thought that Apophis and Leviathan may be the same entity.
If I recall correctly Ra was known was the arch-nemesis and destroyer of Apophis.
Also, Psalms 74:14 NASB reads: "You crushed the heads of Leviathan; You gave him as food for the creatures of the wilderness."
So does Ra = Yahweh
And Apophis = Leviathan?
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2017 6:05:40 GMT 9.5
Apep had his body cut across and burned to ashes - as remembered in Masonry. He did not have his head crushed and his body used for food. Here we can see the serpent Apep next to the tree of life - as in the Garden of Eden
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2017 6:09:41 GMT 9.5
>So does Ra = Yahweh Yahweh forbade any images of himself (why?) Ra was depicted everywhere Notice the goddess seated behind Ra - looks like Nephthys - has a garment representing scales.
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 14, 2017 16:23:04 GMT 9.5
The Jews tend to have a problem with images. I know Ra was depicted in many circumstances.
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2017 16:52:24 GMT 9.5
>The Jews tend to have a problem with images. It was more that Jehovah forbade seeing his face, requiring people to turn the other way as he passed by - on the pain of death. Moses however saw him face to face - "as a man speaks to his friend". Boulay provides a reasonable explanation of Jehovah's shyness. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/serpents_dragons/boulay-index-en.htmThe same situation existed with Isis and Fuxi but they did not seem to mind.
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 15, 2017 15:45:42 GMT 9.5
I'd say that to see God/god face to face must mean something.
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Post by Heru on Jun 17, 2017 14:51:21 GMT 9.5
Apep had his body cut across and burned to ashes - as remembered in Masonry. He did not have his head crushed and his body used for food. Here we can see the serpent Apep next to the tree of life - as in the Garden of Eden In which temple is that depiction found? It's the first time I've seen that one...the serpent and tree of life...interesting!
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Post by paul on Jun 22, 2017 18:33:31 GMT 9.5
>In which temple is that depiction found?
I just found it online.
Notice the head of the serpent is trodden underfoot just like in the Book of Revelation.
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