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Jun 17, 2013 7:50:00 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 17, 2013 7:50:00 GMT 9.5
R.S. evidently has never watched a dear friend die, whose passing was eased by the lie that he would live. The gentle lie sometimes shades the ruthless pain of truth when truth is too much to bear. At best naked truth is as much an illusion as the lie created to temper it. When the Buddha held up a flower in answer to the question, "What is the dharma?" was He saying that the dharma was beautiful but perishing? Or was he offering the questioner the opportunity to answer his own question in the symbol of the flower? The dharma is truth; the truth is like a flower from seed to death. Even in death the essence of "flower" lives on in another form. A lie does not kill truth, it may transform it, but truth is eternal. God save us from truth-sayers who hide their own insecurities behind an impassioned love of truth. As with foxfires, I believe my duty is to show compassion to all beings not to cause pain. A beautiful post stepnwolf.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:21:37 GMT 9.5
Post by Siddhartha Gautama on Jun 17, 2013 19:21:37 GMT 9.5
When the Buddha held up a flower in answer to the question, "What is the dharma?" was He saying that the dharma was beautiful but perishing? Or was he offering the questioner the opportunity to answer his own question in the symbol of the flower? The dharma is truth; the truth is like a flower from seed to death. Even in death the essence of "flower" lives on in another form. A lie does not kill truth, it may transform it, but truth is eternal. God save us from truth-sayers who hide their own insecurities behind an impassioned love of truth. The Flower Sermon was not an answer to a question it was an ineffable lesson. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_SermonSad that its understanding among some has degraded so much that it is used directly counter to the essentials of Buddhism, the Four Noble Truths. The first of which is life means suffering. www.thebigview.com/buddhism/fourtruths.html
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Jun 19, 2013 9:17:02 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 19, 2013 9:17:02 GMT 9.5
> I am just a wall flower LOLFS with a keyboard plugged into the net LOL This is good
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Jun 19, 2013 18:44:30 GMT 9.5
Post by Tathatā on Jun 19, 2013 18:44:30 GMT 9.5
Time is a perspective humans negotiate with fear and remorse! The riddle of the Spinx queries the human mind to see if the human heart can lock down on infinity and hold the doors open for his kind. An explained,,, of the truth,,, has to partially be a lie to a student to invoke the power of ascension Truth is everything is a seed or nothing a seed, every flower born will remain a flower forever, it just keeps manifesting enough so we can feel it's essence The real truth is there is no flower and the real truth is everything is a flower, and the real truth is never was a flower born, and never did a flower die! This reality is just an invocation ritual to whoever is listening from the heart, as the powers would do most anything to awaken the humans to be alive with infinity and hand over our divinity and let us roll with it, but we need to be made safe to handle that level of energy first, and humans are still not self sacrificing enough, and needing to blame a higher power or big boss for the problems before looking inside for self shortcomings. So once we turn on to infinity, we never run out of flowers, or seeds! but we have to care about life more than self satisfaction to awaken the heart to plug into the depth of this reality, otherwise we will become sterile from necessity if we feel we are perfect, and all else must be perfect to our imagination, and hence a virus needing safe isolation zone containment surrounding us! The distance between the molecules of atoms is much like the scale of the distance of us to our sun, as the scale is on par and the same! So more void exists than filler, so filler just is our love and intentions of loving care minus thought and reason The truth is flowers awaken from love! Right now we are a binary planet moon system, with one sun we orbit! When or if this changes in our favor, the construct opens doors and the proton electron orbit factor rules change, and people are or would awaken to a new sense of connectivity! But this is not just head knowledge, is stupid time and space... We are the little brothers in time and space, and we are the future, we have gained the advantage of thousands of big brothers before us evolving and them desiring to return anew through our unlimited love capabilities, but hey I am just a wall flower LOLFS with a keyboard plugged into the net LOL The point of the Flower Sermon is that suchness is ineffable. Gautama Buddha was wise in remaining silent.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:24:11 GMT 9.5
Post by Ineffable on Jun 19, 2013 19:24:11 GMT 9.5
There is merit to some things need to be felt and not thought, so remaining silent is a virtue So why didn't you?
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Jun 20, 2013 18:49:37 GMT 9.5
Post by Tenzin Gyatso on Jun 20, 2013 18:49:37 GMT 9.5
The point was that the Dalai Lama said what he said. > "Change only takes place through action, not through meditation and prayer."
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Jun 21, 2013 18:42:07 GMT 9.5
Post by ??? on Jun 21, 2013 18:42:07 GMT 9.5
To the Operator of the IP Address of the one who presents at this time as: Tenzin Gyatso It seems like you might have a polarity of an resolution and be on about a purpose, with almost an decision to possibly help, rater than just appear to heckle SO thank you! But if you have a point to share, it might be helpful if you ??? ???
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Jun 22, 2013 10:48:21 GMT 9.5
Post by stepnwolf on Jun 22, 2013 10:48:21 GMT 9.5
> I am just a wall flower LOLFS with a keyboard plugged into the net LOL This is good Nah, Bro., I can't believe that! One of our mysteries is that Freemasonry will work on the wall flower, changing it into a brilliant ornament of the Craft. Some of our bolder members enter the fraternity and immediately aspire to the Chair of KS. Others enter the line with fear and trembling, but they grow in boldness as they progress. The office molds the officer, doesn't it? And there are worse fates than being plugged into the net. Who has not had the experience of watching a new RWM sitting in the E for the first time. Some look just a bit frightened as he/she assumes the powerful role of the Lodge CEO. It is indeed wonderful to see how the IPM guides the new RWM in the first few meetings. In some jurisdiction the newly elected RWM is introduced to the E. in a PM degree where the transition is made more easily. But you, a wall flower? Hardly!
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Jun 22, 2013 17:08:09 GMT 9.5
Post by Sam Harris on Jun 22, 2013 17:08:09 GMT 9.5
"Get a billion Christians to pray for a single amputee. Get them to pray that God regrow that missing limb. This happens to salamanders every day, presumably without prayer; this is within the capacity of God. I find it interesting that people of faith only tend to pray for conditions that are self-limiting." - Sam Harris.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:41:48 GMT 9.5
Post by Peter O'Toole on Jun 22, 2013 20:41:48 GMT 9.5
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." - Peter O'Toole.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:44:13 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 22, 2013 20:44:13 GMT 9.5
Amazing, isn't it. ....
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Jun 22, 2013 21:09:37 GMT 9.5
Post by Albert Einstein on Jun 22, 2013 21:09:37 GMT 9.5
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can change this." - Albert Einstein.
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Jun 23, 2013 5:32:26 GMT 9.5
Post by stepnwolf on Jun 23, 2013 5:32:26 GMT 9.5
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." - Peter O'Toole. Peter O'Toole has an amazing insight, usually attained only after many arduous lifetimes. Svengali, as I recall, had the same insight as he speaks to Trilby when he exclaims that “Svengali is only speaking to himself.” We all speak to ourselves in moments of concentration, or confusion or even absentmindedness. It never occurred to me until Mr. O'Tool made his observation that indeed prayer is conversation with the Higher Self, which elevates the activity to a still higher plane . Usually our conversations with ourselves relates to mundane affairs like grocery lists and the like. Prayer, as Mr. O'Tool has made me realize, is not communication between myself and the Other, it is communion between self and Self. Thank you, Mr. O'Toole!
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Jun 23, 2013 9:30:54 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 23, 2013 9:30:54 GMT 9.5
Foxfires, the control of the emotions and selfish thought are the challenges of the first two degrees in Freemasonry. The extreme pull you talk about might be related to the Third Degree Also two of 'the chairs' are called Wisdom and Beauty (Love), the third is Strength. ... and you are not a Freemason! I learn more about Freemasonry from non masons than masons. The genius of the Masonic system is that it gives us the template for putting all the pieces together into a workable whole.
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Jun 23, 2013 9:33:15 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 23, 2013 9:33:15 GMT 9.5
Foxy ... is that an image of a two sided ladder above?
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Jun 23, 2013 17:00:01 GMT 9.5
Post by Tenzin Gyatso on Jun 23, 2013 17:00:01 GMT 9.5
“Buddhism does not accept a theory of God, or a creator.” - 14th Dalai Lama.
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Jun 23, 2013 21:27:01 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 23, 2013 21:27:01 GMT 9.5
"In My Father's House there are many mansions" - Jesus. Both good men by all accounts
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Jun 24, 2013 18:38:24 GMT 9.5
Post by Tenzin Gyatso on Jun 24, 2013 18:38:24 GMT 9.5
“I think prayer is, for the most part, simply reminders in your daily practice. So, the verses look like prayers, but are actually reminders of how to speak, how to deal with other problems, other people, things like that in daily life.” - 14th Dalai Lama.
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Jun 25, 2013 2:55:23 GMT 9.5
Post by stepnwolf on Jun 25, 2013 2:55:23 GMT 9.5
“I think prayer is, for the most part, simply reminders in your daily practice. So, the verses look like prayers, but are actually reminders of how to speak, how to deal with other problems, other people, things like that in daily life.” - 14th Dalai Lama. I have to agree with the Venerable Tenzin Gyatso. But I would like to add that our prayers are like conduits of communication between us and the infinite. They are not magic formulas that force the infinite to submit to our puny wills. It may feel like it, but prayer serves other purposes depending on the person praying. It is a source of consolation in difficult times, a source of understanding in times of confusion, it builds up and not tear down, it creates not destroys. Prayer may not restore a severed leg, but it can restore wholeness to a mind traumatized by the loss of one. I don't understand how my TV works, but I won't refuse to use it because of my ignorance. Prayer is one of the things you can't appreciate until you've tried it. The curious can read all the books on Freemasonry, but still does not know the real secrets until he stands at the door and knocks. The intellectual, versed in the highest reaches of logic and reason, cannot hope to penetrate the smallest mystery without first experiencing it for himself. The movements in a Lodge, the knocks and words, the tokens given and received, all of these function in the same way that a simple prayer of the sincere heart opens ones contact with the infinite.
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Jun 25, 2013 8:56:09 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 25, 2013 8:56:09 GMT 9.5
“I think prayer is, for the most part, simply reminders in your daily practice. So, the verses look like prayers, but are actually reminders of how to speak, how to deal with other problems, other people, things like that in daily life.” - 14th Dalai Lama. I have to agree with the Venerable Tenzin Gyatso. But I would like to add that our prayers are like conduits of communication between us and the infinite (we open ourselves up to the Infinite, and in this opening up we take on 'other problems, other people and things like that in daily life'?. When we pray we gain a measure of Understanding?)They are not magic formulas that force the infinite to submit to our puny wills. It may feel like it, but prayer serves other purposes depending on the person praying. It is a source of consolation in difficult times, a source of understanding in times of confusion, it builds up and not tear down, it creates not destroys. You have a real Lion's Grip on that last bit stepnwolf love it.
Prayer may not restore a severed leg, but it can restore wholeness to a mind traumatized by the loss of one. I don't understand how my TV works, but I won't refuse to use it because of my ignorance. Prayer is one of the things you can't appreciate until you've tried it. The curious can read all the books on Freemasonry, but still does not know the real secrets until he stands at the door and knocks. Humility. The intellectual, versed in the highest reaches of logic and reason, cannot hope to penetrate the smallest mystery without first experiencing it for himself. The movements in a Lodge, the knocks and words, the tokens given and received, all of these function in the same way that a simple prayer of the sincere heart opens ones contact with the infinite. That childlike purity of intention? Coloured bits just some of my thoughts. I think prayer is sort of a natural response when in dire need... there are stories aplenty about athiests who 'prayed' when their life was in peril, some even make promises.
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