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Jun 5, 2013 12:49:11 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 5, 2013 12:49:11 GMT 9.5
So I asked a local sea god that wanders around 30km north, just off the coast, to sort out the situation. Have you mentioned this to a mental health professional? Look what I stumbled across this morning - I didn't know this... lama - "Definitions: long time, old time (Indonesian). Associated spellings/words: Dalai Lama [ 'Son of the Sea']." Ra Ma - "Reportedly, the First Emperor over the Naga Empire of India, over 35,000 years ago. Associated spellings/words: Ra Ma [ 'Son of the Sun']. Trivia: the civilization of India reportedly dates back over 50,000 years." (Col. James Churchward) Ra Mu - "Definitions: Emperor of Mu [Lemuria] (Mayan). Associated spellings/words: Ra Mu ['An avatar, or incarnation, of Vishnu'] (Hindu); Lahmu and Lahamu ['first children of Tiamut'] (Akkadian Mythology)." Lahmu - "Definitions: silt; Lahmu and Lahamn reportedly were the first pair of gods to emerge ['emanate'] from the primordial gods Apsu, Tiamat, and Lahmu - "Lahmu and Lahamu, in Mesopotamian mythology, twin deities, the first gods to be born from the chaos that was created by the merging of Apsu (the watery deep beneath the earth) and Tiamat (the personification of the salt waters); this is described in the Babylonian mythological text Enuma elish (c. 12th century bc).[NP] Usually, Lahmu and Lahamu represent silt, but in some texts they seem to take the form of serpents, and, because the wavy line of a gliding snake is similar to the ripple of water, some scholars believe that Lahmu and Lahamu may have been only synonyms of Tiamat. Lahmu and Lahamu were rather vague deities who do not seem to have played any significant part in subsequent myths, although they may have been the progenitors of Anshar and Kishar. [....]" [Based on: www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/327937/Lahmu-and-Lahamu]
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Jun 5, 2013 12:51:59 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 5, 2013 12:51:59 GMT 9.5
Iama - Son of the Sea ... (yep, couldn't get him out of my mind, Popeye )
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Jun 5, 2013 15:28:43 GMT 9.5
Post by Tenzin Gyatso on Jun 5, 2013 15:28:43 GMT 9.5
"Dalai" is Mongolian for "ocean." "Lama" is Tibetan for teacher. The title has been mistranslated as "ocean of wisdom." It is commonly understood that "ocean" in this sense is a metaphor for a holy presence whose depth and extent are beyond comprehension.
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Jun 6, 2013 9:32:45 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2013 9:32:45 GMT 9.5
"Dalai" is Mongolian for "ocean." "Lama" is Tibetan for teacher. The title has been mistranslated as "ocean of wisdom." So from the above we can deduce that the translation could mean Teacher from the ocean? As the general public are usually unaware of the ancient traditions and stories relating to teachers coming from the oceans or seas, it is easy to understand why they are forced to resort to making sense of the words one way or the other.
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Jun 6, 2013 9:40:57 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jun 6, 2013 9:40:57 GMT 9.5
>Teacher from the ocean Oannes was a teacher from the ocean. Here he is with the Tree of Life
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Jun 6, 2013 18:14:51 GMT 9.5
Post by Gendun Drup on Jun 6, 2013 18:14:51 GMT 9.5
Gendun Drup (1391-1474) first Dalai Lama en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Dalai_LamaThe 14th and incumbent Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, says of himself, "I am a simple Buddhist monk — no more, no less"
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Jun 7, 2013 8:14:09 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 7, 2013 8:14:09 GMT 9.5
The title existed before the 14th Dalai Lama.
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Jun 7, 2013 17:54:11 GMT 9.5
Post by Gendun Drup on Jun 7, 2013 17:54:11 GMT 9.5
The title existed before the 14th Dalai Lama. As stated in my previous post the first was Gendun Drup (1391-1474).
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Jun 8, 2013 21:05:52 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2013 21:05:52 GMT 9.5
References to the teachers from the sea/ocean existed before him too.
Notice that his head-dress resembles the mitre? Which resembles a fish's head?
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Jun 8, 2013 21:09:17 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2013 21:09:17 GMT 9.5
.... and then there is the story of Jonah and his amazing experience ...
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Jun 9, 2013 19:04:22 GMT 9.5
Post by Ira Gershwin on Jun 9, 2013 19:04:22 GMT 9.5
.... and then there is the story of Jonah and his amazing experience ... "The things that you're liable to read in the bible it ain't necessarily so." - Ira Gershwin.
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Jun 9, 2013 19:41:14 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 9, 2013 19:41:14 GMT 9.5
Totally agree.
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Jun 14, 2013 23:20:24 GMT 9.5
Post by Tenzin Gyatso on Jun 14, 2013 23:20:24 GMT 9.5
"Change only takes place through action, not through meditation and prayer." - H.H. The Dalai Lama.
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Jun 15, 2013 7:34:30 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2013 7:34:30 GMT 9.5
.... I think he might have been discussing changing 'the world' and the way society works. To change ourselves we sometimes need a little extra help or inspiration.
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Jun 15, 2013 12:13:12 GMT 9.5
Post by Omar Khayyám on Jun 15, 2013 12:13:12 GMT 9.5
.... I think he might have been discussing changing 'the world' and the way society works. To change ourselves we sometimes need a little extra help or inspiration. "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, moves on: nor all thy piety nor wit, shall lure it back to cancel half a line, nor all thy tears wash out a word of it." - Omar Khayyam.
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Jun 15, 2013 14:08:27 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2013 14:08:27 GMT 9.5
... moving on is good ... all life moves towards perfection.
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Jun 15, 2013 18:13:52 GMT 9.5
Post by CENSORSHIP on Jun 15, 2013 18:13:52 GMT 9.5
... moving on is good ... all life moves towards perfection. The point was that the Dalai Lama said what he said.
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Jun 16, 2013 7:20:56 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jun 16, 2013 7:20:56 GMT 9.5
>does not teach people IMO how to close the gap in less than a lifetime
From time to time there are teachers who explain that they can teach humans to go beyond the need for reincarnation in a single lifetime although I have seen no evidence offered as proof.
It is clear to me that humans do escape the need to reincarnate, but the process is quite long, taking a number of lifetimes. Work needs to be done to cleanse and build the light body, deal with personal karma and relevant aspects of group karma, and release from obligations and binding relationships.
The more that work is done the less is the functional gap between the human and the Cosmic Life.
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Jun 16, 2013 17:43:05 GMT 9.5
Post by RS Meyers on Jun 16, 2013 17:43:05 GMT 9.5
The job is not to tell people the truth, the whole truth and noting but the truth, no matter how painful it is, the world would be soooo brutal if we were this way. "It is better to be told a hurtful truth than to be told a comforting lie. In the end, the truth will make its way out and will hurt much more than it ever had to." - R.S. Meyers
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Jun 16, 2013 21:39:37 GMT 9.5
Post by stepnwolf on Jun 16, 2013 21:39:37 GMT 9.5
R.S. evidently has never watched a dear friend die, whose passing was eased by the lie that he would live. The gentle lie sometimes shades the ruthless pain of truth when truth is too much to bear. At best naked truth is as much an illusion as the lie created to temper it.
When the Buddha held up a flower in answer to the question, "What is the dharma?" was He saying that the dharma was beautiful but perishing? Or was he offering the questioner the opportunity to answer his own question in the symbol of the flower? The dharma is truth; the truth is like a flower from seed to death. Even in death the essence of "flower" lives on in another form. A lie does not kill truth, it may transform it, but truth is eternal. God save us from truth-sayers who hide their own insecurities behind an impassioned love of truth.
As with foxfires, I believe my duty is to show compassion to all beings not to cause pain.
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