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Post by stepnwolf on Jan 17, 2013 22:21:23 GMT 9.5
The thread on intuition has kept me fascinated since it started. Just the idea of immediate awareness without inference or reason captures my imagination. Not that I've been doing much thinking about the topic; I've just been enjoying the feeling of a connection to a whole, created by the idea of intuition.
I was reminded of the commentary on the I Ching, written by Dr. Carl Jung some years ago, in which he explains how the I Ching produces the hexagrams that relate meaningfully to the questions put to it. He formulated the concept of synchronicity to explain the non-causal relationship between the question and the hexagram. That is to say, events may occur together either through cause and effect or by the principle he called synchronicity, where the connection is through meaning and not cause and effect.
Jung suggests that underlying perceptions, events, whatever, are connected and may appear to us simultaneously or nearly so. It seems to me that this may explain the modus operandi of intuition without resorting to intelligent beings who manipulate the universe.
Later, Jung goes one step further in adopting the scholastic idea of Unus Mundus (one world; or the One) which has appeared under various names in both religion and philosophy. The core idea is that the all things emerge from a unifying whole called the Unus Mundus, the One, and will return to it.
With this in mind, the idea of an independent self is then an illusion (maya) – even our intuitions are illusion for there is really no outside and no inside, just Unus Mundus. Because of its existence, I tend to believe that even illusion serves a purpose in helping our earthly minds wrap around the inconceivable.
The relation between the illusion and that reality can be understood in the ideas of the German educator Hans Vaihinger and his philosophy of als ob, that is, as if. His basic premise is that ultimate reality is unknowable. Undaunted, man builds constructs he hopes will explain that reality and then proceeds as if these constructs were reality. Much of modern physics consists of theoretical constructs, but they are useful (if not true) in helping to formulate ideas of the universe as we perceive it.
Well, I've certainly gotten myself into a muddle. Why do we persist in such woolgathering? Is it because it is fun, entertaining or is there a more noble reason?
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Post by paul on Jan 18, 2013 7:54:51 GMT 9.5
>this may explain the modus operandi of intuition without resorting to intelligent beings who manipulate the universe.
It seems to me that intuition often occurs without the presence of any outer event or signal.
I suspect that the concept of synchronicity was proposed by Jung so that others could think about such events without having to consider causation.
I recall an account that Jung was having trouble in the kitchen and after a few days of this went into the kitchen and apologised to the pots and implements for not paying proper attention to them. Presumably that meant that he thought that the synchronicity of kitchen problems was directly related to the poor relationship of intelligences.
>Hans Vaihinger ...His basic premise is that ultimate reality is unknowable
That certainly gets him out of a task that he believes is beyond him.
In practice the boundary of the unknowable constantly moves outwards as the initiate increases his/her at-oneness with Existence.
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Post by LorrB on Jan 18, 2013 7:57:07 GMT 9.5
I don't think you got yourself into a muddle, I think you explained your thought process beautifully. And it is certainly thought provoking. Why do we persist in such woolgathering? Golden fleece just sprang to mind I have trouble trying to figure myself out let alone others and the whole Universe, seen and unseen. (Have you ever done the exercise of trying to figure out who or what you are? It is quite entertaining eg people tend to say "my body" - who is the possessor? And so it goes, usually around in circles. .. but only if it suits them? I am thinking of the lofty ideals of some constructs which are ignored by the construction crew Talking about Builders - Edgar Cayce's source continually stated that Mind is the builder. Other sources state that in man there are two minds, the 'head mind' and the 'heart mind', of these the heart mind is the most important. Is this the mind that is assoc. with Intuition and Synchronicity? Is it really important for us to maintain a connection, a balancing act, between these two minds? Are the first two penalties referring to this sort of connection? Wotif ... the heart mind is the Centre from which we cannot err? Wotif ... heart mind is that part of us connected to all others and the Whole? Intuition might then be considered the 'ears that hear' or the 'eyes that see' part of the great Plan and Synchronicity might be a case of more than one person seeing or hearing the same thing at the same time. What the mind perceives the hand must execute?
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Post by LorrB on Jan 18, 2013 8:04:44 GMT 9.5
We are the hands of the Universe .. Hans Solo Now there is synchronicity in action ... 'Han Solo' just jumped into my head and for the first time ever I realised the significance of his naming in Star Wars. omg. Star Wars creator George Lucas described Solo as "a loner who realizes the importance of being part of a group and helping for the common good". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_SoloAm I now able to say that George Lucas, God and I have shared a moment?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 10:08:32 GMT 9.5
I have often wondered if synchronicity is man made, or if there are divine influences behind it I have noticed when practicing pure intentions synchronicity occurs often, or easily recognized
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2018 10:34:24 GMT 9.5
> man made, or if there are divine influences
I can think of quite a lot of other influences beyond those choices.
For example I drive a 1989 Mazda and have never thought about how long it would last. Then last year I was driving and the car told me that it would last 500 000 km - being currently at 320 000k.
It had never told me a number before and the communication was out of the blue.
Then a week later I was not paying attention when driving from the lights and ran gently into the back of a small truck. No damage to his but I needed a new bonnet/hood.
I then needed to consider that a repair would cost more than the car was worth - although much cheaper than buying another car. That was not a clear decision but helped by the car telling me that it had a lot of life left.
So I looked on the web and it turned out that the day after my accident a local car wrecker advertised the very model and year of my car being wrecked for parts. So I picked up replacement bonnet and headlamp and I asked the wrecker about advertising the car. He said he was about to crush the car but then thought that it was very rare and so advertised it.
So if the events are connected, the car knew the accident was coming and the wrecker knew that I wanted parts from that car and advertised immediately I needed them.
Divine intervention? I doubt it.
>practicing pure intentions synchronicity occurs often
Good observation. Nature spirits and higher beings are much more likely to assist those that support the unfoldment of Life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 11:04:20 GMT 9.5
I am not familiar or a believer in synchronicity with material objects Your predicament is certainly unusual
The synchronicities are with people In mild cases thoughts are aligned In most cases being at the same place exactly at the same time as the other, in a few cases three individuals
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2018 12:04:01 GMT 9.5
>or a believer in synchronicity with material objects
Don't let your car know. It might offended.
>In mild cases thoughts are aligned
I would tend to classify that as telepathy. It is very common particularly when people get on well together.
> being at the same place exactly at the same time as the other
I have certainly experienced that and again have not really thought of it as synchronicity since the people know each other and can arrange meetings while out of the body when asleep.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:07:33 GMT 9.5
I have often wondered if synchronicity is man made, or if there are divine influences behind it I have noticed when practicing pure intentions synchronicity occurs often, or easily recognized LOL has it ever kicked in, sorta like the level of trying to drink water from an fire hose Notice King David broke like the first 5 commandments with Bathsheba & God did not get 2 bent outta shape with chastisement on the fella
But with an unauthorized OF God Census 1 Chronicles 21;11 Gad went to David and told him, “This is what the Lord says: ‘Make a choice for yourself: 12 Either three years of famine, or three months of reversals as you are swept away by your enemies while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or three days with the sword of the Lord, consisting of pestilence infecting the land, with the angel of the Lord wreaking destruction from border to border throughout all of Israel.’ Decide right now what I am to answer to the one who sent me.” David knocked down the Great unknown So he was no longer As u share > practicing pure intentions synchronicity occurs often, or easily recognized for nomenclature i sorta dont define it like u BUT sorta do its just I run from people that sorta seem em as Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you... tongue & cheek as emotional vamps The possibility exists that David did not need such as Carnal knowledge ! & Death of a bunch of his people would constitute an huh Just not sure about how many people R there
& yep God could still be considered as all loving
I will be straight with ya foxfires I normally can follow about 65% percent of what you're describing
I do not understand your fire hose comment, please elaborate - because I want to know(a need to understand)
--- In a manner of speaking pure intentions brings a person closer to nature - or God
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2018 12:08:13 GMT 9.5
>losing soul pieces into stuff
This is a significant problem at the level of the personality, losing or donating etheric, emotional and mental substance and then never feeling whole.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:33:23 GMT 9.5
>or a believer in synchronicity with material objects Don't let your car know. It might offended. >In mild cases thoughts are aligned I would tend to classify that as telepathy. It is very common particularly when people get on well together. > being at the same place exactly at the same time as the other I have certainly experienced that and again have not really thought of it as synchronicity since the people know each other and can arrange meetings while out of the body when asleep. I have a symbiotic connection with my car
----I would tend to classify that as telepathy. It is very common particularly when people get on well together. Here is one example... I am lucky to have the opportunity with work to meet new people every week in a large city A little over a month ago a man was referred to me to obtain a quote for a job. He is a psychoanalyst, he was kind and was generous to give me a few books that I noticed on his shelf. He spoke a different language and I expressed desire to learn a new language. A few weeks later I had a dream about a woman whom I was walking beside constantly, amicable The next day I was called to a clients home who needed assistance with some minor construction. The lady said to me " do I know you? " I had the same thought Both of us had the same dream, she also spoke a different language - and offered to teach me After a few lessons she told me she was seeking help from a psychoanalyst - it was the same man I met previously for the quote
--- Another I was driving down a narrow road for some distance. I have been down this road hundreds of times while still looking ahead, my mind was showing me a truck that veered into my lane and damaged my mirror 20 seconds later a truck pulls into my lane from around the corner and rips off my mirror
Telepathy with myself from the future? or something divine
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2018 12:51:01 GMT 9.5
>Telepathy with myself from the future? or something divine
Much more likely to be a friendly nature spirit. Some cars have useful nature spirits.
My ex used to ask her Honda to find car parks in the city and to navigate if she did not know the way. She says that the car saved her life on one occasion when it stalled and thereby prevented a side collision from a large truck. I often drove that car or was a passenger. I never saw it stall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:23:20 GMT 9.5
Foxfires if you wish to help others, I'm willing to listen after deciphering your text. I take as much information in as possible and form a meridian
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Post by elijah on Aug 13, 2018 10:37:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 11:35:18 GMT 9.5
Being aware of it is key, however I have noticed with improper diet and exercise it can allude me
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 11:43:08 GMT 9.5
its just an summary of ok Trained masons dont understand much of what is shared by me is an huh
Take another look at am i really helping! Here is some of Allegory of Cave > & seems none much have commented or interacted on the thread its post at here on A406
& the huh of ok Not helping here but seem to be confusing LOL at best
Thanks foxfires Im familiar with the allegory of the cave From what I am reading.. you're saying that people are preset with their potential(capability of knowledge) I agree that Masonry when done properly is the unfoldment of these potentials We are either conscious of ourselves or not
The truth cannot be judged through human perception Should we watch 2001 Space Odyssey
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Post by paul on Aug 16, 2018 6:02:49 GMT 9.5
>When the legendary seer, Edgar Cayce, was in the deeper levels of consciousness
As I recall, Cayce would do remote readings but if the person was not in the house at the time, the reading would be on whoever was there.
This might suggest that the intelligence doing the reading was not easily able to identify humans by name, but required a geographical identification.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 21:48:01 GMT 9.5
>>>foxfires<<< He was only versed in the Bible and had no high school or college background of any kind. ... In other words, Jesus represented the body, mind and spirit of God. .... When the legendary seer, Edgar Cayce, was in the deeper levels of consciousness|||||
I can think of a few people who were spiritual or had the ability to understand reality well, just by reading the Bible I'm a fan favourite of Mr Leedskalnin Though he hides in plain site I'm also a fan of Sarah Winchester Her house tells a story - you will see the symbol of Persephone at the gates
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 2:10:59 GMT 9.5
Winchesters Similar path as Ima Hogg decent back story 4 a read if time allows ya The back story is well known. One of my favorites. The hardest part is finding country banter of likeness. Most people I've met within the communities don't talk about that, perhaps too fresh
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Post by sammy on Nov 6, 2022 12:47:21 GMT 9.5
I'm not sure about anyone else but my synchronicity in repeating numbers with time has been in overdrive lately.
The number 8 shows up constantly in my life (birthday/driver license #/identification #'s in apps/ and much more).
Picked up my phone 8:08, which ok.. but it is constantly lately. Just wondering if anyone else noticed it more then usual?
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