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Post by LorrB on Apr 27, 2012 9:44:03 GMT 9.5
Great Balls of Fire! It was the tenth plague of Egypt, the night of Passover, when the Lord passed over the huts of the Israelites and struck the mansions of the Egyptians (the light rush houses would survive and earthquake more easily than heavy stone ones). “There was not a house where there was not one dead,” says the Book of Exodus, and St. Jerome wrote that “in the night in which Exodus took place, all the temples of Egypt were destroyed either by an earth shock or by the thunderbolt.” The head of the comet cam close to the earth, breaking through the darkness of the dust cloud, and the Hebrew tradition tells that the last night of the Jews in Egypt was as bright as the noon of the summer solstice.
The blow fell at midnight. Dr. Velikovsky observes in passing that as the israelites counted the days from sunset it was for them the 14th Aviv; and, ever since, the Passover has been celebrated on the fourteenth day of the first month of spring. The Egyptians counted from sunrise, as we do, and for them it was the 13th Thout, a day forever after unlucky. As for the thirteenth of any month, said the Egyptians, “thou shalt not do anything on this day.” The Aztecs also counted the day from sunrise, and in their calendar it was noted that on the 13th Olin, a month called “earthquake,” a new world age had come into being.
To the peoples of the earth below who witnessed this spectacle, the head of the comet and its tail seemed to be two separate bodies, The bright globe fought the “crooked serpent” and destroyed it, thus saving the world from further harm. It would be difficult, Dr. Velikovsky writes, “to find a people or a tribe on earth that does not have the same motif at the very focus of its religious beliefs.”
The great spark that flew between the comet and Earth is remembered as the bolt of lightning, placed in the hand of a god who threw this thunderbolt at a world overwhelmed by water and fire: Zeus of the Greeks, Odin of the Icelanders, Ukko of the Finns, Wotan of the Germans, Mazda of the Persians, Marduk of the Babylonians, Siva of the Hindus. The pattern of conflict between the comet and its tail takes almost identical form in the battles of Zeus with Typhon, Isis with Seth, Vishnu with the Serpent, Indra with Rahu, marduk with Tiamat, Ormuzd with Ahriman. “A terrible comet was seen by the people of Ethiopia and Egypt,” wrote Pliny in his Natural History, “to which Typhon , the king of that period gave his name; it had a fiery appearance and was twisted like a coil, and it was very grim to behold; it was not really a star so much as what might be called a ball of fire. |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 27, 2012 9:50:32 GMT 9.5
... and you shall see his sign in the sky. Large underground facilities are starting to make sense  |
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Post by paul on Apr 27, 2012 9:51:48 GMT 9.5
..... Marduk, imo, might be one possible candidate for the title The King of Terror, Death being the other one. Here is Young's Literal Translation of the relevant text with my highlights: 11 Round about terrified him have terrors, And they have scattered him -- at his feet. 12Hungry is his sorrow, And calamity is ready at his side. 13 It consumeth the parts of his skin, Consume his parts doth death's first-born. 14Drawn from his tent is his confidence, And it causeth him to step to the king of terrors. 15It dwelleth in his tent -- out of his provender, Scattered over his habitation is sulphur. 16From beneath his roots are dried up, And from above cut off is his crop. 17His memorial hath perished from the land, And he hath no name on the street. Thus there are minor terrors around him at his feet His skin is being consumed by the terrors. He flees from his tent only to meet the king of terrors. As a result of the king of terrors, he is no longer remembered by the people in the street. I must admit I struggle with the idea that a comet could operate on such a local level. |
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Post by Henka on Apr 27, 2012 10:41:36 GMT 9.5
... Paul, you are citing Sitchin again! Do you believe that Sitchin was wrong in all of the details he described in that series of events? Pretty much. |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 27, 2012 14:34:22 GMT 9.5
Thus there are minor terrors around him at his feet His skin is being consumed by the terrors. He flees from his tent only to meet the king of terrors. As a result of the king of terrors, he is no longer remembered by the people in the street. I must admit I struggle with the idea that a comet could operate on such a local level. I would imagine that any great interruption to the 'mechanics' of our solar system might have catastrophic effects at local level. Look at what happened in Japan and Indonesia ... and that by a local earthquake. Imagine this... volcanoes, tsunamis, etc, etc  On this scale one can well imagine why we now tilt at 23.5 deg. and why ancient advanced civilisations (not to mention giants and dinosaurs) disappeared. |
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Post by paul on Apr 27, 2012 15:01:08 GMT 9.5
Do you believe that Sitchin was wrong in all of the details he described in that series of events? Pretty much. That is certainly a lot to disagree with. Here it is again: And all of this is wrong - a complete fiction? |
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Post by paul on Apr 27, 2012 15:19:41 GMT 9.5
Here is Marduk looking a bit Masonic with something that might be a level in hand and his dragon. (Note the right hand reversed - as common in Egyptian depictions)  The dragon's name is Mušḫuššu that translates as reddish snake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%C5%A1%E1%B8%ABu%C5%A1%C5%A1uAnd here is Marduk doing battle with a bipedal Tiamat - perhaps the King of Terrors  Note that Marduk is using two vajras (thunderbolts). "In Sanskrit it means both thunderbolt and diamond and bears their symbolic properties as an unbreakable weapon that slices through any substance with irresistible force." |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 30, 2012 10:06:09 GMT 9.5
Note that Marduk is using two vajras (thunderbolts). "In Sanskrit it means both thunderbolt and diamond and bears their symbolic properties as an unbreakable weapon that slices through any substance with irresistible force." Thunderbolts of the Gods, by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, introduces the reader to an age of planetary instability and earthshaking electrical events in ancient times. If their hypothesis is correct, it could not fail to alter many paths of scientific investigation. More info...
The Electric Sky. Professor of electrical engineering Donald Scott systematically unravels the myths of “Big Bang” cosmology, and he does so without resorting to black holes, dark matter, dark energy, neutron stars, magnetic “reconnection,” or any other fictions needed to prop up a failed theory. More info...
www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ Simple, really  |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 30, 2012 10:11:42 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Apr 30, 2012 10:13:53 GMT 9.5
... and talking about the peculiarities of the Universe...  Red Square nebula - Credit: Peter Tuthill, Sydney University Physics Dept Palomar and W.M. Keck observatories (a pyramid with capstone in place?) |
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Post by LorrB on Apr 30, 2012 10:23:27 GMT 9.5
Sydney University astrophysicist Peter Tuthill and James Lloyd of Cornell University in New York have discovered the Red Square Nebula. It is located 5000 light years or 9.46 trillion kilometers away.
"It should have been discovered before, it is so nearly square that people probably mistook it for an aberration of the telescope," stated Dr Tuthill. The nebular's intricate linear form make it one of the most symmetrical objects ever found.
30 years ago, a similar object, the Red Rectangle, was found and since then scientists have been looking for something similar. It has even been suggested that the conditions needed to form these structures may not be as rare as once believed.
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Post by paul on Apr 30, 2012 12:30:45 GMT 9.5
...Thunderbolts of the Gods [/b], by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, introduces the reader to an age of planetary instability and earthshaking electrical events in ancient times. ....[/quote] The electric nature of the universe is perhaps obvious, it is less so that all the variety of celestial weapons were one and the same. Brahmadanda : This is the most powerful weapon in the universe. ..This astra is the most powerful weapon of Lord Brahma. Pashupatastra: It is believed in Hindu mythology that Pashupatastra is one of the most devastating weapons... .....it is said to have the power to change the course of Creation and Destruction. .... used twice by Arjuna in the entire Mahabharata war ... Narayanastra: Invincible and painful, this astra is unconquerable except by total submission. Brahmashir Astra: A weapon capable of greater destruction than the Brahmastra. It is said to be evolution of brahmastra. It can burn all creation to ashes once discharged. Brahmastra: Embedded with the mystical force of Creator Brahma, this weapon releases millions of missiles, great fires and a destructive potential capable of extinguishing all creation.... Nagastra: The snake weapon, used by Karna against Arjuna in Kurukshetra war. It is considered as an irresistible weapon equal to the Brahmastra. It has a fame that never misses its target. Vasavi Shakti: The magical dart weapon of Indra, unfailing at executing its target. Indra granted it to Karna during the Kurukshetra war. The Mahabharata also refers to it as the Amoghastra. Vajra: The thunderbolt weapon of Indra, who is the God of Thunder and Lightning, akin to Zeus and Jupiter in Greek and Roman mythology. Agneyastra: The fire weapon, created by the God Agni, master of the flames. Varunastra: The water weapon, created by the God Varuna, master of the oceans, rivers and lakes. Vayavastra: The wind weapon, created by the God Vayu, master of wind." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_mythological_wars |
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Post by cwhite on May 17, 2012 3:00:38 GMT 9.5
Because they are subject to the same life cycles as we are, just on a much larger scale. The Earth Age is subject to the same cycles as well. Birth, life, death, rebirth. |
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Post by Henka on May 17, 2012 6:23:31 GMT 9.5
The gods represent astrological cycles, or ages. The gods "die" at the end of an age, when the sun enters a different house due to precession of the equinoxes, no more, no less.
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Post by paul on May 17, 2012 9:16:12 GMT 9.5
Because I feel we all are gods as long as we care more others than self. I suspect there must be more to it than that. There are stories of animal mothers sacrificing their lives to protect their young. Quite so. The quotation from Psalms 82 (Young's Literal Translation) clearly distinguishes the gods from men. Psalm 82 'You are Gods [Elohim], And all of you are sons of the Most High. Surely you will die just as men do; This is interesting from a Masonic view as the brethren regard themselves not as sons of the Most High but as sons of the Widow. This is probably a reference to the pralaya en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pralaya The pralaya occurs at different levels of existence. All lives exist within a greater beingness. As below so above. Perhaps there are several levels of creation occurring in the same entities. |
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Post by paul on May 17, 2012 10:36:48 GMT 9.5
Psalms 82 implies that the sons of the Most High have at least much longer lifespans than men - that is they are immortals.
The Sumerian literature indicates that the gods started to die on this planet (under an aging sun?). They used the Water of Life and the Bread of Life (from the Tree of Life) to maintain their usual lifespan.
The alternative may have been to live underground.
I use Young's Literal Translation to avoid most of the cultural and Christian issues influencing translations. That does leave the problem of metaphorical statements.
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Post by paul on May 17, 2012 10:41:36 GMT 9.5
..... Well we could have split off from the male half or female half of God In my observation the universes visible to humans are from the "male" face of the Source of All. And those avataric impulses that I have seen appear to come from the opposite (female) face of the Source of All. Perhaps both faces work as partners. |
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Post by paul on Nov 20, 2022 10:55:57 GMT 9.5
Perhaps not all the gods have died: "What follows is Enki’s responses to Elena’s questions, where he discusses a total of 12 Anunnaki scientists that had been left behind, each possessing unique esoteric knowledge and technology secrets:
[Enki] My crew decided to stay, well, indeed, most of them. Some others decided to leave Earth with me. They wanted to go home. But those who stayed took upon the mission and responsibility to be the Keepers of the Knowledge. Each of them, you see, are key activators for the technology. Not only their body’s genetic frequency key is necessary, but it must be coupled with their personal consciousness. You see, consciousness is the key.
[Elena] How many are they, the sleeping Anunnaki in stasis?
[Enki] They were twelve, but four bodies have been destroyed, and one is in the custody of the enemy. Seven remain untouched; four are in the process of activation.
[Elena] Kukulkan is one of the four?
[Enki] Ningishzida, yes.
[Elena] Who are the others?
[Enki] Knowing their names is part of the activation process, so I cannot disclose their real names. You understand? Some are not ready yet.
[Elena] I do understand. Thor Han told me that the one under Nippur is named Arunna. Is that right?
[Enki] How do you know about him?
[Elena] Our friend that is in the Earth’s secret military programs told us. He may go on a mission there.
Elena is here referring to JP, who was the first to be given details about a new sleeping giant located in Iraq and had passed on the geographic coordinates of where it was found. JP had previously witnessed a sleeping giant in a Florida cavern who Thor Han identified as Ningishzida, who was also known as Kukulcan, Quetzacoatl, Viracocha, etc." exopolitics.org/7-sleeping-anunnaki-scientists-are-awakening/Notice: [Enki] How do you know about him?The source identifying itself as Enki (genetic creator of slave humans and hybrid humans) does not claim omniscience or even telepathy with his regular contactee. One might conclude that the Enki source is more interested in intelligent relationship than in having devotees Notice also that the South American Kukulkan is identified with the Sumerian Ningishzida - thereby suggesting only one set of planetary gods at a time |
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Post by sammy on Nov 20, 2022 12:53:26 GMT 9.5
Thank you for this paul.
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Post by stewartedwards on Nov 20, 2022 20:54:22 GMT 9.5
Perhaps not all the gods have died: "What follows is Enki’s responses to Elena’s questions, where he discusses a total of 12 Anunnaki scientists that had been left behind, each possessing unique esoteric knowledge and technology secrets:
[Enki] My crew decided to stay, well, indeed, most of them. Some others decided to leave Earth with me. They wanted to go home. But those who stayed took upon the mission and responsibility to be the Keepers of the Knowledge. Each of them, you see, are key activators for the technology. Not only their body’s genetic frequency key is necessary, but it must be coupled with their personal consciousness. You see, consciousness is the key.
[Elena] How many are they, the sleeping Anunnaki in stasis?
[Enki] They were twelve, but four bodies have been destroyed, and one is in the custody of the enemy. Seven remain untouched; four are in the process of activation.
[Elena] Kukulkan is one of the four?
[Enki] Ningishzida, yes.
[Elena] Who are the others?
[Enki] Knowing their names is part of the activation process, so I cannot disclose their real names. You understand? Some are not ready yet.
[Elena] I do understand. Thor Han told me that the one under Nippur is named Arunna. Is that right?
[Enki] How do you know about him?
[Elena] Our friend that is in the Earth’s secret military programs told us. He may go on a mission there.
Elena is here referring to JP, who was the first to be given details about a new sleeping giant located in Iraq and had passed on the geographic coordinates of where it was found. JP had previously witnessed a sleeping giant in a Florida cavern who Thor Han identified as Ningishzida, who was also known as Kukulcan, Quetzacoatl, Viracocha, etc." exopolitics.org/7-sleeping-anunnaki-scientists-are-awakening/Notice: [Enki] How do you know about him?The source identifying itself as Enki (genetic creator of slave humans and hybrid humans) does not claim omniscience or even telepathy with his regular contactee. One might conclude that the Enki source is more interested in intelligent relationship than in having devotees Notice also that the South American Kukulkan is identified with the Sumerian Ningishzida - thereby suggesting only one set of planetary gods at a time 1. I would suggest that Enki energies are alive and kicking on this planet. 2. I would also agree that the “ Enki source is more interested in intelligent relationship than in having devotees”. 3. Perhaps unsurprisingly I connect with Enki energy. 4. Remember that while Enki did initially genetically engineered a slave race bread with apes, to work the mines; and later genetically engineered in vitro fertilisation using Annunaki women, which lead to the human race, ie us; he also protected the human race in the deluge, and convinced Enlil, who wanted the human race destroyed, to change his mind and harness and live with us. Per Sitchin. |
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