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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 6:47:15 GMT 9.5
. Does there need to be a difference between brain and mind? Almost every person experiencing OOBE and NDE would make that distinction. Those without those experiences may be making their argument only to each other.
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Post by LorrB on Dec 7, 2011 6:56:32 GMT 9.5
I believe the brain to be the hardware of our system, and the mind is the program. I have also come to believe that the program can and is accessed by others. Access could be either an 'email' or a 'virus'. That is why we need to activate systems protection for our computers, minds. Freemasonry refers to this as tyling the lodge.
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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 7:15:37 GMT 9.5
Perhaps other chakras could be tyled as well.
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Post by LorrB on Dec 7, 2011 7:34:10 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 7:42:20 GMT 9.5
The mind is the activated body of the mental chakra (speaking simply).
As above so below
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Post by LorrB on Dec 7, 2011 8:35:24 GMT 9.5
I was referring to tyling the mind/mental chakra. How would we tyle other chakras? I was under the impressions that the mind would take care of them all - mind governs emotions etc.
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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 8:58:50 GMT 9.5
Is that a common occurrence in your associates? The first step in tyling is a just and upright life. Without that tyling is of little value. How many chakras does a human have?
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Post by brandt on Dec 7, 2011 9:33:49 GMT 9.5
Your body is not separate from your spiritual life. There are problems when we attempt to make it so. As above, so below indeed. That would suggest that the body/brain is every bit as important as this undefined term "mind."
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Post by LorrB on Dec 7, 2011 10:04:36 GMT 9.5
Is that a common occurrence in your associates? The first step in tyling is a just and upright life. Without that tyling is of little value. How many chakras does a human have? Emotion seems to be a response to the lower mind (how we look at things) ? A person with a damaged self image will sometimes respond to a helping hand with an atitude along the lines of "what do you think I am, stupid?" The lower mind of the person is producing an emotion in response to how he thinks about himself. Just and upright is a given in lodge. Are you referring to the so called Law of Attraction? We will attract that which we are? How would lodge protect itself from a Bro with less than admirable qualities? How many chakras? Countless I would suggest, but the major ones are usually stated as Seven in traditional philosophies. The Seven Officers of a personal lodge?
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Post by Henka on Dec 7, 2011 10:10:26 GMT 9.5
I was referring to tyling the mind/mental chakra. How would we tyle other chakras? I was under the impressions that the mind would take care of them all - mind governs emotions etc. Are you referring to the Crown chakra?
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Post by Henka on Dec 7, 2011 10:11:52 GMT 9.5
There are more than seven, actually, and many more above the Crown chakra.
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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 10:54:46 GMT 9.5
Even within the body, conventionally there are 7+21+21 chakras. Each is an entry to the human.
David Tansley: Radionics and the Subtle Anatomy of Man
"A chakra may be defined as a focal point for the reception and transmission of energies. These energies can originate from a variety of sources, some cosmic, others from the collective unconscious of a nation or humanity..., or from the physical, emotional and mental worlds of the lower self..."
Thus we might not only ask: Whose thought is that? but also whose emotion and whose physical pain?
Tansley:
" The chakras in the etheric body come into being where the strands of energy cross and re-cross each other. The seven major chakras form where these lines cross...twenty-one times. The minor chakras, of which there are twenty-one (fig ), occur where the energy strands cross fourteen times. Where the lines cross seven times, lesser focal points are created....Beyond this are many tiny force centres, which probably correspond to the acupuncture points of Chinese medicine."
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Post by paul on Dec 7, 2011 11:04:12 GMT 9.5
Emotion seems to be a response to the lower mind Or the thoughts follow from the emotions Such brethren constitute a large gap in the tyling. Perhaps smaller lodges might do better in the spiritual work
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Post by LorrB on Dec 7, 2011 12:34:47 GMT 9.5
I was referring to tyling the mind/mental chakra. How would we tyle other chakras? I was under the impressions that the mind would take care of them all - mind governs emotions etc. Are you referring to the Crown chakra? I wish. I am thinking the three lower chakras, probably the Sacral. For the lower three centers, there is also a mental component to each of the chakras, or energy centers. This is how the Soul, our higher mind, contacts the physical plane through the lower mind ~ the mental aspects of the three lower centers are its channel. The Soul animates the personality, "speaks to the vehicle." Indeed, the mental and astral bodies are the eyes and ears of the Soul on the physical plane.
Through the mental component of the respective chakra, the mind and mental plane are affected by thought forms that flow in and out of the first, second and third centers. Whereas the higher four centers ~ the heart, throat, third eye and crown ~ instead consist of a soulic, or higher mind, aspect of the person's mental body.
www.souledout.org/healing/wheelsoflife/chakrasinfo/magneticchakras.html
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Post by choochoo808 on May 22, 2012 2:41:24 GMT 9.5
Even within the body, conventionally there are 7+21+21 chakras. Each is an entry to the human. These figures jumped out at me. Is it coincidence that there are 49 Enochian keys? enochian.info/enochian-keys/
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Post by paul on May 22, 2012 7:55:58 GMT 9.5
Somewhere in the apocryphal New Testament Jesus is asked about some mystery and he replies something like:
- That is the greatest of all mysteries except for the mystery of the 7 fathers and 49 sons.
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Post by LorrB on May 22, 2012 9:09:16 GMT 9.5
Jesus answers: “Do ye seek after these mysteries? No mystery is more excellent than they which shall bring your souls unto the Light of Lights, unto the place of Truth and Goodness, unto the place where there is neither male nor female, neither form in that place but Light, everlasting, not to be uttered. Nothing therefore is more excellent than the mysteries which ye seek after, saving only THE MYSTERY of the seven vowels and their FORTY AND NINE POWERS, and their numbers thereof; and no name is more excellent than all these vowels.” “The Seven Fathers and the Forty-nine Sons blaze in DARKNESS, but they are the LIFE and LIGHT and the continuation thereof through the Great Age” — says the Commentary speaking of the “Fires.”
Now it becomes evident that, in every esoteric interpretation of exoteric beliefs expressed in allegorical forms, there was the same underlying idea — the basic number seven, the compound of three and four, preceded by the divine THREE ( ) making the perfect number ten.
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-2-10.htm
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Post by paul on May 22, 2012 9:25:01 GMT 9.5
So what are the 7 fathers and the 49 sons?
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Post by paul on May 22, 2012 10:17:52 GMT 9.5
... it was said that Jesus ascended 50 levels to heaven, and Moses only went up 49 layers.... That suggests levels of consciousness. It reminds me of the ladder that is found in various mystery traditions.
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Post by cwhite on May 22, 2012 10:23:16 GMT 9.5
Jesus speaks of 49 demons fairly often in the Pistis Sophia...
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