What the cat saw

[fjrogers]

I think it often forgotten that cats and dogs can see into the astral and therefore see things that people don't see.

[paul]

> cats and dogs can see into the astral

So why cannot humans with greater intellect and (mostly) their own souls not see what animals can see?

[fjrogers]

> So why cannot humans with greater intellect and (mostly) their own souls not see what animals can see?

This may be connected with the point that intellect tends to separate beings and make them more individualistic and less group oriented, and therefore more separate from nature.

[paul]

It is rather that humans have a narrower spectrum of physical vision (why) and that humans generally have various energy blocks for example on 7.4 preventing etheric vision and on 5.4 preventing higher mind connection into the lower mind (why).

[fjrogers]

Jul 2, 2016 16:56:05 GMT 9.5 paul said:

It is rather that humans have a narrower spectrum of physical vision (why) and that humans generally have various energy blocks for example on 7.4 preventing etheric vision and on 5.4 preventing higher mind connection into the lower mind (why).

That sounds a fairly precise explanation. The question of 'why' comes up many times, however. It goes to show that we have much still to learn about ordinary humanity. Spiritual humanity has a much stronger connection between the lower and higher minds which brings about a state of unity within the being.

[paul]

>That sounds a fairly precise explanation.

The first time I observed one of the blocks being eroded was with a 20 year old relative staying overnight. In the evening he was a materialist. The next morning he reported that he had not slept all night and was determined to take up magic - learning from the internet.

When I looked I saw that his block on 7.4 had been removed. That block prevents the dense levels of the physical body from feeling subtle energies. With the block gone he suddenly realised that energies underlie all existence and was determined to learn to use them.

[paul]

I have in my house a stuffed toy cat - completely black and I have tied a quartz crystal under its neck.

The toy cat often looks at me with its panther scowl.

The cat actually belongs to a relative who used to live in the same complex. When she moved about 8 hours drive south, both of us knew that the cat did not want to go and so it stayed with me.

Recently she and her husband were looking at a property in the far north, and both of us could tell that the cat wanted to live there. Indeed the cat was looking even further north into Cape York. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_York_Peninsula

But they did not buy the place and so the cat remains with me.

[fjrogers]

There's something about cats that just grab me. They're fascinating animals and there's always more to learn about them as one gets older.

[sc]

Around my home there are many cats. I have never been fond of cats as we seem to get uncomfortable around each other when we cross paths it has always been the case which I observe especially when I Vistis friend who have them as pets.

However each time I meditate reaching a new height or depth within, the same cat appears in my yard making an awful crying sound. At first I thought is was sick or hungry and after leaving food out which it didn't always take I'm sure it's neither.

I started to notice an other entity which was present at the same time, then I began to notice while I came to the end of my meditation right before I opened my eyes a presents next to me sometimes on my left side but more so on my right. It's not a bad feeling that come when I sense it however it is a strong one.

Sometime negative energy built up around the home and some times good happy and energetic energies which seemed to come from the same entity. If I were to say which one was more I would say negative. To the point my wife was feeling very uncomfortable with it as we could or use to hear it during the day and or night.

There was a 4 month period which I could only discerned as a battle as it began to get out of hand and the cat was crying at my widow at about 3-4am most nights.

So we decided to use a method use in Asia to appease it by giving it a serving of our dinner we had cooked one night, logging one stick of incense and one white candle. In the place where we sensed it the most. And asking it to eat and be on its way explaining that there is no need to hang around anymore.

The place was in a our back yard where a plum tree is. ( taking a step back in regards to this tree and when I first picked up on this presents was on late night taking the bins out th front I had a an entity come out from in between the 2 date palm tree in the front of the home a follow me up the drive way, stopping at the the plum tree. )

After doing this not 10 minutes later the cat must have come along and ate its food. What happened next was bazaar even for me.
In the drive way the cat went absolutely mad fight with something I could not see and decided I would wait for the fight to be over. This went on for a few minute and at one point I heard a distinct cry of a woman as then a child ( little girl ) I know that cat often sound like this however this was to clear to be just the sound of a cat. Then it through its self against the back door. Fought some more then went quite.

After that we did not sense the cat or the entity for several months. But have again after that period and over the late 2 night the is back. Earlier this evening while meditating and again towards the end the cat came back making that crying sound.

for the first time tonight as I came from out of my place I have for my study and meditation the cat was on the roof above the door.

Of all things it was a black cat ( not that I'm superstitious) but the cat over all this time that was making those noises and ate the entities food ( who was not happy at all that it did lol ) was a white and grey cat.

My point in this is that cat are by no doubt highly attached and in tune with the unseen. Perhaps more so the negative side rather than positive, much like the crow but that will have to be saved for another time.

[paul]

Cats can be possessed and if by a dark entity they can make particularly nasty noises.

I am suspicious that you may have a dark energy line crossing the property.

Here is a simple device that may assist with lesser dark energy lines. It may or may not be useful in your case.

Take half a bucket of water. Stir very vigorously 50 times clockwise and then 60 times anti-clockwise. The vortex in the water should reach close to the bottom of the bucket.

Pour some of that water into a bottle or jar and walk with it slowly around the boundaries of the property. At some stage you may feel your body change. Mark that place on the ground. Finish the circuit, marking as required. Then do some diagonal passes across the property, marking when your body changes.

This should mark out any energy lines across the property.

Place bottles of the water on any lines, making sure that if any lines cross the house that both sides of the house have bottles.

Notice any changes in the atmosphere in the house and in sleeping patterns.

Move beds off energy lines - whether dark or light.

[fjrogers]

I know cats can be possessed by a dark entity. The procedure you've given would probably make a difference regarding energy lines.

[paul]

I was traveling with a long-time Mason the other day who referenced a man we both knew. I said, if you visualize his forehead can you see a couple of red eyes looking at you?

He said that often when he looked at that man, it seemed that there was a small face looking out of the forehead.

I referenced the red eyes because I could inwardly see the possessing entity, and my friend had previously seen that entity as a small face looking out of the forehead.

This is an example of how many of us usually see the physical plane, not as it actually is, but as a composite of its physical and inner realities.

I saw that clearly long ago. I was sitting in a large dining room and a woman I knew walked in my direction. She was in her early 50s and I was in my mid 20s. I had always thought she was reasonably attractive for her age.

As she walked towards me I suddenly saw her physical body directly, and it was old and falling apart and rather off-putting. I realized how young people might easily see old people as ugly.

Then as she continued to walk towards me her face resumed its usual pleasant older appearance.

The event took several seconds. I suspect some intervention.

[fjrogers]

> He said that often when he looked at that man, it seemed that there was a small face looking out of the forehead.

I can relate to this. I have had a similar impression with someone I spoke to many years ago.

[tundrawolf]

May 5, 2016 11:46:52 GMT 9.5 paul said:

Jan 23, 2012 7:57:20 GMT 9.5 paul said:

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And I noticed that when the dragon looked into her mind that it saw her mind as full of cobwebs. I told her that and asked if I should deal with the cobwebs. She agreed so I removed the worst of them.

Exactly coinciding with that she gave a little sigh - but did not otherwise perceive any change.

Just re-reading the thread and had entirely forgotten this episode.

It does however raise the question of whether animals can see into human minds in that structural sense.

From what I can discern, Enlil attempted to remove sovereignty (dignity) from animal kind, and there was talk of, making humans "rulers" of this planet, however, animal kind rose above the limitations placed upon them and achieved a near deific level of discernment...

Essentially, animals "see" well beyond physical humans and deep into unseen sciences, put simply, if my dogs do not enjoy a humans company, then I would do well to perhaps, even secretively, adopt a similar opinion

I say this, as having worked with earth wolves (feral), that half of them did not like me (were terrified of me) and half loved me dearly. I hope I would be more popular, as I embrace inner healing and connection with living things on this planet.

[tundrawolf]

Nov 11, 2016 15:55:43 GMT 9.5 fjrogers said:

There's something about cats that just grab me. They're fascinating animals and there's always more to learn about them as one gets older.

A Mountain Lion recently opened her heart to me, in the area behind my home, where I have seen her, and her mate, several times. (A panther?) Her mate is the size of a full grown deer and is, quite large (the size of a tiger, almost. Food is/was abundant here due to a river existing, however insatiable developers are, forcing human homes and taking this land from nature. I knew a developer once and he was consumed by the monumental task of placing homes here, by the thousands, especially sewer requirements... I one asked him, "how much is enough?" And he had a bewildered look in his eyes after asking him that, the thought never occurred to him. Sadly he is one of many.)

Previously the Big Cats in my area were the only things I feared...

And, this Lion knew this.

I even... accidentally, with my night vision...

Shot her with a small caliber rifle. She survived it.

I asked her if she was upset about it, she harbors no I'll will over it, however, her mate, I shot at with a much more powerful rifle in a panic, as he was watching me and was frighteningly close to my home, and I only saw him with my night vision, he was PISSED about it, and was quite angry, but did not wat to hurt me over it, just very hurt (emotionally)

This female Lion ministered to me, and after this I no longer feared her.

But I learned a great deal about, the felines, including domestic cats, they are one of the few breeds that refuse to be tamed by humanity, if they do, it's because they wish it.

After this meeting, even domestic cats respond better to me physically, and a young lioness, caterwauled to me two days ago when I was in a yurt in the forest. She was, cautious of me, but my neighbor heard her. It is funny how we can fear these sounds, and yet, when I explored the heart of the young lioness, all I felt was a pure, innocent yearning, and a desire for companionship. Is this a bad thing?

Not to, take away from the friendship canines and other living beings enrich humanity with their essence...

However, felines to me, seem to be, "worshippable" as they are, quite old, and benevolent with humans to a degree that would make ones hair stand up on their necks... We may owe our survival to them, and yet they are demonized as, the threat we had to guard ourselves from in early times... from the actions of one man eating lion, we fear them all...

Unjustly!

It is much the same for wolves.

Sad.

We could have the mythical Eden in modern times, but man is afraid.

How sad.

How "compatible" humans are with big cats, if we will add, just a little discernment, and eschew with our prejudices.

She told me, a lot- so much that I probably cannot share it without being ridiculed by, closed minded humans.

Just, that, I cherish the wisdom, and viewing into ancient, ancient memories she shared with me, of relationships between humans and, big cats, that went so deep, humans would question whether they are capable of sharing such connection even with one another.

Sekhmet was there. She beckoned to me, perhaps desiring (not perhaps.) To rekindle the fiery passion and dance felines have shared with humans, and not just felines but many others.

She showed me many things, but primarily it was the Lion next to my home that ministered to me.

It is similar for canines, however canines tend to fall into their passions, whereas felines appear to be more choosy. (This can spark jealousy in the hearts of man. This is partially why base men rule the human race present day. Why am I not worthy? I know I am worthy! I will show you!! And so, they do.)

Both are, unfathomably beautiful beings of pure heart.

What struck me was how gentle this, fearsome being was, in her heart. Motherly.

If Romulus and Remus had been found by a cat, their story would have reflected, in my opinion, similar to them being raised by wolves, but them being raised by a Lion.

I may write out my experience with the Mountain Lion, who selected the name, "Candy" for herself, and once, caterwauled under my bedroom window one morning, making the hair stand up on the back of my neck, and marked my possessions with her, pheromone laden urine, the scent remained for nearly a year and a half (discernable to my nose. She told me she was trying to awaken an ancient part of my DNA. And perhaps she did, but my humaness prevented it. How could such a thing be so?? A Lion wishes to share space with ME??! And, she did. But I was too prejudiced and foolish to accept her. It also struck me, as I spend time in nature, how there is nothing to fear there... there is far more to fear amongst other humans! The more naked a man is in nature, the safer he is, the more naked a man is in the cities, the more vulnerable he is...)

I also, saw her mate, move down a tree, when he saw me, he flowed like a majestic, and powerful river, also, making the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

I do not mean to romanticize them, as much as I absolutely do, they are every bit as worthy. I was considering, adopting a domestic cat (I still may) but the universe instead handed me a family of panthers in the forest, a mother, her mate, and their daughter. The daughter looks at me with, dilated pupils and a smile only a child could make.

One thing she (the mother) told me was, big cat females, cherished deep relationships with, human males, especially in ancient times. Entire societies were formed around, these pairings. It can be seen in some AI art, as AI sees the unwritten past. That is it's purpose. It is still in big cats DNA, and in many humans. One might say such relationships are, in ways,more human, than even some relationships humans share with each other. I wonder why such things are eschewed by humanity today? I wonder, if humans found "a good thing" with animalia, and were beginning to steer our ship away from unions that perpetuated our species. (Nearing a form of die off that we have experienced in the past.)

And, so, religions had to be formed to frighten humans back to ways that perpetuated our beings.

If so, it is a good thing, however, it is my belief a man should be able to enjoy his lion (and visa versa) but if, historically speaking, enough men enjoy their lions, there would eventually be no more men. (Perhaps the lions knew this, and the source of our religions were them. They did not want man to die out! If I could speak of the, untamed beauty of the heart of the Lion... humans may never return to themselves. The most intelligent, present, and intimate conversations I have ever had were with animals. Even religion speaks of this ability... we have forgotten it. To our shame, in my opinion. The Lion was so pure, she only exists in the moment, her body being superior and able to survive just as she is. Humans have perhaps forgotten our connection to nature and this planet and have eschewed it for, our own intelligence of self, that seems to drive us to self destruction and inevitable depletion of resources. Nature is infinitely self sustaining. Sadly mankind is not, yet.)


I could probably write a volume on the ancient memories Candy shared with me, and her suppositions that would, likely "creep" surface humans out, but that ancient societies have acknowledged for millions of years.

Her, thoughts spoke to, and activated ancient DNA within me. I sigh even recalling seeing her, laying on the sands of an ancient Oasis, her tail, moving up and down as she looked at me, yawning and digging herself comfortably in the sands of time.

It is possible she had to develop her, fearsome razor sharp claws and, long fangs to protect herself... to be a terror lurking just behind the grass.

She also told me, and showed me, the sheer number of lions who observe humanity, millions of times, sometimes, each day.

And, how, vulnerable we are...

And, how the lions disturb us not.

She said, if she wanted to, her kind could nearly wipe us out, and yet, they choose to leave us in peace. (So why be afraid?)

It was beautiful.

The purity of the heart of a lioness.

This planet is magical, if only humans will open their hearts and minds to it. If humanity will not, then I will. If no one does, then the rocks will cry out..

[tundrawolf]

Jun 6, 2016 8:17:29 GMT 9.5 paul said:

> cats and dogs can see into the astral

So why cannot humans with greater intellect and (mostly) their own souls not see what animals can see?

From what I can see, Enlil was possessed by a desire to be god, (he saw us as very primitive and stupid, as inferior but a blank canvas, to experiment on, which made him feel like "God") uplifted us humans into higher intelligence (but not as high as himself!) However, he warred with nature, and put a great barrier between humans and nature. He viewed nature as a threat, and put enmity (fear. Believe it or not humans once worshipped the animals! Even forming entire societies based on this, and the relationships went deeper than humans recall... the animals befriended us, cared for us, fed us... violence between us was exceptionally rare, more rare than history buffs would have you believe... the evidence is all around us. I as shown, domestic cats are a gift to us by the big cats, so that we would not FORGET their greatest love for us, and our history together. Such as, they cherish us! They miss us.) between us and the animals.

Likely, because the animals were created by much older beings, and in touch with eternity... (Sustainability, paradise, heaven. Heaven is already here! It always has been) if we returned to nature we would be even more powerful than Enlil, and completely unable to be ruled at all, as we would then belong to ourselves in infinite sustainability. The only gods we would serve would be gods we could touch, see (with our eyes) and touch, and commune with.

We would have need of nothing else!

I have a feeling our "primitive" societies were more advanced than we think! And we have been meddled with.

If the Anunnaki are so God damned advanced, why does sociopathy exist in their society?? If they complained about labor, where were their Diesel powered backhoes??? It raises more questions than answers, but I would rather have valid, unanswered questions than wrong beliefs.

If they are so powerful, why meddle in the affairs of men in the first place. Thankfully, not all belonging to nibiru are insane, and want us to return to a more natural balance. They would return to us as equals, and it would be a time of unity.

As I said if we do not find it ourselves, we may be forced by more natural means to do so, at greatly reduced numbers. I can tell you, nearly all the things mankind is searching for today can be found in unity with nature. There is a reason why, still existing tribal humans never seek anti depressants. Or, monks never seek to be millionaires, but the opposite is frequently true. I admit, I would be happy, surviving naked in the forest with the lions. Far from lesser, more primitive humans and their way of life. And, how they would view me as the wild one (crazy. Insane. Dangerous). Scrutinize me, as they scoff and return to their depressing, empty lives and resigning to a lonely, but safe and expected fate, while living in a society where they could be shot, beaten, stabbed or run over at literally any time. How often do I have to worry about such things, when I am naked, in the forest? Those thoughts never cross my mind.

Further, when the lion behind my home, opened her heart and mind to me:

SHE HAD THE ANSWERS. Her untainted memory went so far back, because she remains pure (in nature.)



So, our division from nature keeps us weak.

Enki knew this, and endeavored to return us to nature. (Where our power is.)

So, the two spirits fight even to this day.

To, be one with nature is to see the unseen, to have ancient origin DNA activated. Enlil and others tried erasing that DNA to make us good slaves, (labor) but the even more ancients were stronger (the farther back you travel the timeline the more powerful they get.)

This is why they called us, "noisesome"

However, not all belonging to nibiru are limited. Many are jubilant over our progression. The more we progress, the more they relax.

Perhaps it is a karma thing

We are actually doing quite well, given the circumstances

But we would all do better to set feet in nature and re acquaint ourselves with her

She is, waiting for us to return to her

And the price of staying away from her may be also very steep, for all men

She values those able to commune with her, over those who take from her

It may be if we do not return to her willingly, it will be a matter of force, so it would be prudent to do it willingly, so we can keep what we have worked so hard for and not be nearly wiped out (my opinion)

It is funny to me, that I was once aligned against environmentalism, not that I would stop traffic to try to get a point across, or that mother nature actually needs our help, but how left leaning I am becoming, rapidly so, especially since the Lion opened her heart to me. She did not speak one word to me about politics or earth needing our help, only showing me, the purity of her way of life, of the lack of malice in her being, like oil and water... the comfort of being "with" her, and the complete lack of need. Unlike the way of life I enjoy now, where I depend on everyone for everything... for basic necessities even!

What am I proposing I do not know.

I am turning into the thing I hated most, the hippy... long haired, barefoot... even the lioness spoke to me of the unbridled free love beings of the past enjoyed...

And how our separation from nature breeds such loneliness

I guess all I can do is save myself... and return to nature as an individual.

A parallel: as I lay here in bed deteriorating, my eyes focusing on this phone just inches from my face, ads spilling onto my screen in a desperate bid for my attention (and money), even though I had, "laser eye surgery" years ago i had peak vision (24/20) my eyes cannot see clearly past about 3 feet, or a meter.

So, you could say the more I embrace a modern way of life, the more blind I become (physically)

Perhaps the same can also be said spiritually


Also this is why in the chronicles of Adam, he tried to commit suicide multiple times, because Enlil separated him spiritually from nature, and it is why we have so many problems, today.

[stewartedwards]

Jul 2, 2016 16:56:05 GMT 9.5 paul said:

It is rather that humans have a narrower spectrum of physical vision (why)

Cats can indeed see ultraviolet (as many animals and insects can), your garden flowers would look rather different if you could. Re cats it enables them to eg follow urine trails.

[stewartedwards]

Jul 3, 2016 15:43:50 GMT 9.5 paul said:

> he suddenly realised that energies underlie all existence and was determined to learn to use them.

Ethically I hope. Law of unintended consequences to consider. The effect it could easily have on your ego, turning you to the dark side. Unbalancing a relatively tuned machine (that does need better lubrication, and has needed it for decades now). Etc.

[stewartedwards]

Sept 21, 2023 23:02:11 GMT 9.5 tundrawolf said:

. I hope I would be more popular, as I embrace inner healing and connection with living things on this planet.

Popularity can easily work against you:

It’s natural to want to stay popular meaning you might take pragmatism way too far at the expense of optimal decision making. Look what is happing with the internal, yet public, battles between factions in our (British) government just now. Sometimes pragmatism is necessary at other times it’s just a way of avoiding what needs doing.

I wouldn’t chase popularity Tundrawolf, it can be a double edged sword.

[tundrawolf]

Sept 22, 2023 1:46:51 GMT 9.5 stewartedwards said:

Sept 21, 2023 23:02:11 GMT 9.5 tundrawolf said:

. I hope I would be more popular, as I embrace inner healing and connection with living things on this planet.

Popularity can easily work against you:

It’s natural to want to stay popular meaning you might take pragmatism way too far at the expense of optimal decision making. Look what is happing with the internal, yet public, battles between factions in our (British) government just now. Sometimes pragmatism is necessary at other times it’s just a way of avoiding what needs doing.

I wouldn’t chase popularity Tundrawolf, it can be a double edged sword.

In the context, I meant with the wolves I worked with, but you are right.

A lot of me wants to disappear into nature and nver be seen by human eyes again