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Post by Cora B on Mar 29, 2011 9:41:24 GMT 9.5
Like so:-
"Life is the process through which God creates Itself, and then experiences the creation. This process of creation is ongoing and eternal." -- Neale Donald Walsh.
Don't you just love it when the Universe is listening in and throws you a crumb? ;D
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 10:13:09 GMT 9.5
;D ;D ;D Yes! It's what keeps us going.
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Post by Henka on Mar 29, 2011 10:17:20 GMT 9.5
I wonder however when the brethren will practice their part of the Song of Creation Ever read the Silmarillion? ;D
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Post by paul on Mar 29, 2011 10:31:27 GMT 9.5
Only the LoTR
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 10:38:28 GMT 9.5
Loved LoTR, most especially Samwise.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 10:44:59 GMT 9.5
Do we need to actually sing the song of creation?
Like the Lord of the Rings folk, despite their differences they all learned to appreciate and perform the part they had to play in their 'song'.
On this forum we have a whole heap of loud voices who have learned through experience to harmonise so that differing views/notes can be incorporated into our 'song'.
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Post by paul on Mar 29, 2011 10:49:08 GMT 9.5
The "Song of Creation" is a veiling in allegory.
Nevertheless sound is the essence of the Creative process and each must learn their own note and that of their group.
As the group sounds its note truly it unites with groups across the kingdoms in a chord that in due process will reveal the next layer of this Creation
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Post by Henka on Mar 29, 2011 11:17:55 GMT 9.5
Paul, you'd like The Silmarillion. The first part, The Ainulindale, deals exactly with this topic - the world brought into creation by song. ;D
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Post by paul on Mar 29, 2011 11:27:46 GMT 9.5
I will look it up
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Post by Henka on Mar 29, 2011 12:10:49 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 12:14:10 GMT 9.5
Synchronicity?
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Post by Henka on Mar 29, 2011 12:25:03 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 12:37:51 GMT 9.5
Will have to look at that when no-one is around henka... I share an office.
But I did get a good laugh just a few minutes back... I took some paperwork out to the courier container which is to go to the snr campus this afternoon. What is sitting on top of the whole lot? The paperback version of The Lord of the Rings.
Note - we do not use the courier to transfer books as each campus has its own library.
;D ;D ;D
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Post by LorrB on Mar 29, 2011 13:35:40 GMT 9.5
The "Song of Creation" is a veiling in allegory. Nevertheless sound is the essence of the Creative process and each must learn their own note and that of their group. As the group sounds its note truly it unites with groups across the kingdoms in a chord that in due process will reveal the next layer of this Creation
Om, or Aum, a sacred syllable of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism is considered to be the first resonating vibrational sound within an individual being. It also denotes the non-dualistic universe as a whole. In Buddhism, Om corresponds to the crown chakra and white light.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabda
I would argue that we, our total being, produces a sound of its own without the aid of our vocal cords. In the beginning was the Aum/Om and that word went forth. Coincidental that we have 7 notes, 7 colours and 7 officers in a open lodge? Coincidence that the White Light which are all colours in One, is the colour of the Master (Crown chakra?) Coincidence that Ark Mariners has the rainbow? And the rainbow is only half the story?
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Post by Henka on Mar 29, 2011 13:50:50 GMT 9.5
Will have to look at that when no-one is around henka... I share an office. But I did get a good laugh just a few minutes back... I took some paperwork out to the courier container which is to go to the snr campus this afternoon. What is sitting on top of the whole lot? The paperback version of The Lord of the Rings. Note - we do not use the courier to transfer books as each campus has its own library. ;D ;D ;D LOL ;D
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Post by paul on Mar 29, 2011 14:05:09 GMT 9.5
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Post by roman on May 24, 2011 1:06:08 GMT 9.5
The Hymns are what make Lauderdale unique. I am not aware of any other Masonic ritual that uses them. They make up a large portion of the Lauderdale ritual so I cannot see how they can be omitted.
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Post by acrogers on Sept 19, 2011 16:02:45 GMT 9.5
I am glad to find a discussion on Masonic music. I agree that Masonry does not require hymns, even music at all, but I think most Masons would agree that the right kind of music is a great help. Let us not forget that music can raise, or lower for that matter our vibrational rates.
I agree recorded music is good, so long as the machine is controlled by a brother with an instinctive sense, not only of what music is right, but when exactly to start and stop it. I suggest one reason English speaking Lodges have always tended to use organists is that it is easier for the organist, as a member of the Lodge to sense what is required and when, and then to provide it without having to press a button after looking to make sure they've pressed the right one.
Moreover most organists--having played in churches develop this instinctive interaction with what is going on and know how to respond, and if necessary improvise without notice or hesitation. In Adelaide Co-Masonic Lodge we don't do much singing nowadays because, as LorrB said our singing is woeful. We sing hymns to recorded music at the Opening and Closing of Lodge, and otherwise use CDs. I think the best option, if you can get it is to have an organist who can play other things than hymns, who can respond as required, playing well enough to enhance the atmosphere and raise the vibrational rate.
Surely it must be a help to whoever is in The Chair to have one person they know controlling all the music (sung or otherwise), and not to have to worry about whether a brother--musician or not is going to start or stop at the right moment, or press the right button, particularly before the Temple lights have been turned on.
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Post by paul on Sept 19, 2011 17:26:47 GMT 9.5
I am not at all sure that woefulness of singing should be a discouragement. There are various benefits from singing - esoteric and exoteric - that have only incidental relationship to singing ability.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 20, 2011 9:25:45 GMT 9.5
The Hymns are what make Lauderdale unique. I am not aware of any other Masonic ritual that uses them. They make up a large portion of the Lauderdale ritual so I cannot see how they can be omitted. My husband is a SA & NT Freemason... they have organists and sing Odes... Nothing like 100 or so men singing an ode... I have been fortunate enough to be invited to some of their Grand ceremonies and Installations.
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