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Post by sammy on Sept 3, 2022 22:29:42 GMT 9.5
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing."
This phrasing to me is different in effect then simply "as above so below". The abbreviated version leaves logic to understand there is separation of the two.
With the original meaning it leads logic to understand they are the same thing working toward a separate thing. I find this incredibly more beneficial for humanity to understand. Regardless our walk of life we all do it on the same ground and under the same sky, we call that one thing Earth. Even if it's people above and below it would all still be one thing.. humanity.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 3, 2022 23:13:27 GMT 9.5
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing." This phrasing to me is different in effect then simply "as above so below". The abbreviated version leaves logic to understand there is separation of the two. With the original meaning it leads logic to understand they are the same thing working toward a separate thing. I find this incredibly more beneficial for humanity to understand. Regardless our walk of life we all do it on the same ground and under the same sky, we call that one thing Earth. Even if it's people above and below it would all still be one thing.. humanity. Sammy I don’t know, but I wonder if this needs expansion from ‘people’ to ‘life’? It is becoming increasingly accepted eg that a range of animals have sentience, emotions, grieve, look after their family and humans, etc. Obvious examples are cats and dogs, elephants, gorillas, etc, then there are the animal welfare charities re farm animals etc. And don’t forget the oceans, 70% of this planet. It’s one of humanities failings that we think we all too often think are the only species that matters. Though fortunately that is changing fast, down to U.K. planning permissions re bats, badgers etc, to the food security aspects of biodiversity. As inter species communication has been marginalised regardless of the evidence, humanity has been unbalancing itself for a couple of centuries now. Rebalancing in this regard would (1) aid rebalancing enormously, and (2) aid the increasing global necessity to eat less meat. It would also (3) enable more people to enjoy the benefits of and grow from the friendship bonds that animals often provide to some per owners and so on. But what the heck do I know. The one animal sentience conference I attended decades ago had people trying to secretly video everyone in the audience from cameras sticking out bags. (A bit like those who back then tried to secretly record certain conversations on ufo conference sidelines, and record car number plates). At least nowadays spooks can do all this much easier. I say this tongue in cheek but just imagine the potential military applications. Asking all venemous snakes to seek out and bite enemy soldiers. Asking human disease carrying bugs to do similar.  mind you a swarm of mini drones with needles attached could achieve the same, easier. Swat!  |
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Post by sammy on Sept 3, 2022 23:42:46 GMT 9.5
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing." This phrasing to me is different in effect then simply "as above so below". The abbreviated version leaves logic to understand there is separation of the two. With the original meaning it leads logic to understand they are the same thing working toward a separate thing. I find this incredibly more beneficial for humanity to understand. Regardless our walk of life we all do it on the same ground and under the same sky, we call that one thing Earth. Even if it's people above and below it would all still be one thing.. humanity. Sammy I don’t know, but I wonder if this needs expansion from ‘people’ to ‘life’? It is becoming increasingly accepted eg that a range of animals have sentience, emotions, grieve, look after their family and humans, etc. Obvious examples are cats and dogs, elephants, gorillas, etc, then there are the animal welfare charities re farm animals etc. And don’t forget the oceans, 70% of this planet. It’s one of humanities failings that we think we all too often think are the only species that matters. Though fortunately that is changing fast, down to U.K. planning permissions re bats, badgers etc, to the food security aspects of biodiversity. As inter species communication has been marginalised regardless of the evidence, humanity has been unbalancing itself for a couple of centuries now. Rebalancing in this regard would (1) aid rebalancing enormously, and (2) aid the increasing global necessity to eat less meat. It would also (3) enable more people to enjoy the benefits of and grow from the friendship bonds that animals often provide to some per owners and so on. But what the heck do I know. The one animal sentience conference I attended decades ago had people trying to secretly video everyone in the audience from cameras sticking out bags. (A bit like those who back then tried to secretly record certain conversations on ufo conference sidelines, and record car number plates). At least nowadays spooks can do all this much easier. I say this tongue in cheek but just imagine the potential military applications. Asking all venemous snakes to seek out and bite enemy soldiers. Asking human disease carrying bugs to do similar. mind you a swarm of mini drones with needles attached could achieve the same, easier. Swat! The phrases are of human construct. This was my basis for being focused on humanity. The animals and other conscious life will only experience what we concluded. If we do translate our thoughts to other non-human languages someday, I'm sure we would want it represented correctly. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 3, 2022 23:55:18 GMT 9.5
In short: I'm saying it exists with or without our words to accommodate it, but that mostly only effects ourselves.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 4, 2022 4:29:20 GMT 9.5
Sammy I don’t know, but I wonder if this needs expansion from ‘people’ to ‘life’? It is becoming increasingly accepted eg that a range of animals have sentience, emotions, grieve, look after their family and humans, etc. Obvious examples are cats and dogs, elephants, gorillas, etc, then there are the animal welfare charities re farm animals etc. And don’t forget the oceans, 70% of this planet. It’s one of humanities failings that we think we all too often think are the only species that matters. Though fortunately that is changing fast, down to U.K. planning permissions re bats, badgers etc, to the food security aspects of biodiversity. As inter species communication has been marginalised regardless of the evidence, humanity has been unbalancing itself for a couple of centuries now. Rebalancing in this regard would (1) aid rebalancing enormously, and (2) aid the increasing global necessity to eat less meat. It would also (3) enable more people to enjoy the benefits of and grow from the friendship bonds that animals often provide to some per owners and so on. But what the heck do I know. The one animal sentience conference I attended decades ago had people trying to secretly video everyone in the audience from cameras sticking out bags. (A bit like those who back then tried to secretly record certain conversations on ufo conference sidelines, and record car number plates). At least nowadays spooks can do all this much easier. I say this tongue in cheek but just imagine the potential military applications. Asking all venemous snakes to seek out and bite enemy soldiers. Asking human disease carrying bugs to do similar. mind you a swarm of mini drones with needles attached could achieve the same, easier. Swat! The phrases are of human construct. This was my basis for being focused on humanity. The animals and other conscious life will only experience what we concluded. If we do translate our thoughts to other non-human languages someday, I'm sure we would want it represented correctly. We can already translate our thoughts to non human languages. I first did it c2 decades ago. It’s difficult as you need a responsive animal, that is sufficiently evolved itself, and actually wants to communicate with you; which means it is rare (some pet owners possibly excepted). But ‘someday’ was a long time ago, possibly millennia. Btw no translation is required, though I do tend to speak aloud. Simply: 1. Open your heart and talk from there. 2. Creating a mental bridge can help. But it is very rare for all of the conditions to be fulfilled. But when it is, wow. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 4, 2022 4:31:26 GMT 9.5
Meant to add, animals experiencing complete lifetimes, emotions, loves, fear, grief, etc as we humans do. Ask Greyfriars Bobby. Or just do a YouTube search of dogs grieving.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 4, 2022 4:32:55 GMT 9.5
Open your heart and connect.
It’s that simple. It’s also infuriatingly difficult. Why? All the conditions from both sides must exist.
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Post by sammy on Sept 4, 2022 8:06:17 GMT 9.5
Open your heart and connect. It’s that simple. It’s also infuriatingly difficult. Why? All the conditions from both sides must exist. Perhaps a mechanism of intent. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 4, 2022 20:37:26 GMT 9.5
this am the last of earths departed from my presence and it was not wanting at first to be acknowledged then it turned to me and mentioned an bye bye and smiled it was an seeming seeming sprite or angelic class graduation almost like seeming 30 percent Flower .,. guess like daisy or sunflower i maybe try find in souls journey description there Sunflowers can be used in phytoremediation to extract toxic ingredients from soil, such as lead, arsenic and uranium, and used in rhizofiltration to neutralize radionuclides and other toxic ingredients and harmful bacteria from water. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 4, 2022 23:11:47 GMT 9.5
I had a "issue" with memory about 25 years ago. It wasn't anything anyone could help and it's better now its just they aren't as vivid as before.
I remember being at this place. The pond and all that weirdness, the town and great hall for the ceremonies and being witnessed to "raising" performances. It was the nature kingdom for Earth (possibly other planets too).
Not was all that it seemed though (they never are). Something was broken here... very low sub frequency. Almost undetectable and made it easy for them to overlook. Not an easy thing for them because they had extreme power in their abilities it was just that low and quiet of a frequency.
The high priest or leader was a male my first visit and I seemed to have left on good terms and the area in a good direction.
My second (I think) visit the male was gone and replaced by a female. Everything seemed odd though. Townsfolk seemed really happy, but any time the discussion whent toward a negative aspect they would forget the entirety of it. They would just go back into something else like it never happened.
By the time I got to the priestess I knew something was wrong. When I asked what happened to the male (I think all discussions were telepathic), I had the image of her killing him to steal the throne. She was saying he ascended to everyone though and gave her the throne. There were others in the room and said they only saw him ascending when they look at her. Then I remembered the negative thoughts issue with everyone from earlier. She had them all hypnotized with a spell to believe her lies.
When I realized this I could see the "web" and voided its energy breaking the hold on them. Before I knew what was happening they were pushing me out of the room and surrounding the priestess. As I was pushed out the doors shut and that's all I can remember.
You triggered these memories.. thank you fox. A true brother.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 5, 2022 10:08:23 GMT 9.5
Open your heart and connect. It’s that simple. It’s also infuriatingly difficult. Why? All the conditions from both sides must exist. Perhaps a mechanism of intent. Perhaps Sammy perhaps. I intend to do no harm. Which is a world whose energy flows have become quite turbulent (everything from Indi2 in Scotland, Political infighting at Westminster, Brexit, through the Russia/EU balance to rebalancing between the US and China, is not easy. And that’s before you even consider the multitude of other factors from increasing fear levels to environmental issues. On the bright side I have just read that oysters are cleaning New York’s waterways well again. So many perspectives on every issue Sammy. Get your intent wrong and much harm could be done unnecessarily. Just look at politicians vying for power. While I no longer invest the time to do this effectively, when you map our planets energy flows (everything from tidal currents, through political trends, to corporate issues), it could be possible to intend to do a lot of good. But the law of unintended consequences can easily catch you out. Sometimes it might just be best to use your intent at a high level, getting the enabling infrastructure working as best you can. Then hope that humans refind their humanity, whether by natural evolution or with help from above. There are plenty of reported horse and dog whispers out there. I would imaging that it comes naturally. When you use intent you are sort of forcing the issue. And if you don’t have the correct blend of experience, wisdom and insight, you could do harm. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 5, 2022 13:56:02 GMT 9.5
Perhaps a mechanism of intent. Perhaps Sammy perhaps. I intend to do no harm. Which is a world whose energy flows have become quite turbulent (everything from Indi2 in Scotland, Political infighting at Westminster, Brexit, through the Russia/EU balance to rebalancing between the US and China, is not easy. And that’s before you even consider the multitude of other factors from increasing fear levels to environmental issues. On the bright side I have just read that oysters are cleaning New York’s waterways well again. So many perspectives on every issue Sammy. Get your intent wrong and much harm could be done unnecessarily. Just look at politicians vying for power. While I no longer invest the time to do this effectively, when you map our planets energy flows (everything from tidal currents, through political trends, to corporate issues), it could be possible to intend to do a lot of good. But the law of unintended consequences can easily catch you out. Sometimes it might just be best to use your intent at a high level, getting the enabling infrastructure working as best you can. Then hope that humans refind their humanity, whether by natural evolution or with help from above. There are plenty of reported horse and dog whispers out there. I would imaging that it comes naturally. When you use intent you are sort of forcing the issue. And if you don’t have the correct blend of experience, wisdom and insight, you could do harm. "by natural evolution or with help from above." Are we not that natural evolution? Truly alone one will fall short but that is not the goal. The goal is unity in action with the collective honor and logic to back it up. Do we not still have the spark of life from above? A guiding light in our times of darkness? We even have the darkness if we over exposed ourselves and whent too far. We have all the ingredients for the recipe. We just need to get them all in the bowl. |
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Post by paul on Sept 5, 2022 16:32:17 GMT 9.5
>Get your intent wrong and much harm could be done unnecessarily.
Intend high level outcomes not processes.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 5, 2022 22:38:26 GMT 9.5
>Get your intent wrong and much harm could be done unnecessarily. Intend high level outcomes not processes. Thanks Paul. I am finally beginning to get my mind around how to do this more effectively. I can even now see how all of the turmoil in my own life, in my country, and in our world could well be a prerequisite to effective rebalancing. Consider how, in Britain at least, great social reforms and rebalancing took effect after the last two world wars. Though I do hope that the coming global war is avoided. Though I am not holding my breath on this as the risk just keeps increasing. The raising of the human race up a step, is quite the challenge though. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 5, 2022 23:29:32 GMT 9.5
>Get your intent wrong and much harm could be done unnecessarily. Intend high level outcomes not processes. Thanks Paul. I am finally beginning to get my mind around how to do this more effectively. I can even now see how all of the turmoil in my own life, in my country, and in our world could well be a prerequisite to effective rebalancing. Consider how, in Britain at least, great social reforms and rebalancing took effect after the last two world wars. Though I do hope that the coming global war is avoided. Though I am not holding my breath on this as the risk just keeps increasing. The raising of the human race up a step, is quite the challenge though. Keep in mind most cases people don't want to die. Especially just for nothing. The war has begun and we are in it. Because to control the land of people is to occupy the mind. WW3 is a information war. Lucky for us truth is on our side. Information does little without the truth to back it up. |
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 6, 2022 1:27:47 GMT 9.5
Information does little without the truth to back it up. Sadly Sammy that is not the historic experience. Pick a country. Pick a time period. War or peace. Propaganda (aka lies) has been extensively and effectively used to control people; to spook people (in war re beliefs, fears etc); and to rewrite history. Even today ‘fake news’ influences a generation through social media. Information without truth has and can change the course of history Sammy. Sadly that is a well proven fact. Though you do also have to consider perspectives, ask any police officer. Multiple witnesses to a crime can give multiple accounts, all of which are true, even though they differ (eg she was wearing a dressing gown, while another may say pyjamas, both can be correct on a timeline). I am sure that the British NHS is still waiting for the £350 million a week they were to get from Brexit! Is Independence really the solution to all ills promised by the SNP? Information can and does change the course of history even if it is a lie. It all depends on the energetic power behind the words (dark or light) and whether people find it credible. |
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Post by sammy on Sept 6, 2022 1:52:52 GMT 9.5
Information does little without the truth to back it up. Sadly Sammy that is not the historic experience. Pick a country. Pick a time period. War or peace. Propaganda (aka lies) has been extensively and effectively used to control people; to spook people (in war re beliefs, fears etc); and to rewrite history. Even today ‘fake news’ influences a generation through social media. Information without truth has and can change the course of history Sammy. Sadly that is a well proven fact. Though you do also have to consider perspectives, ask any police officer. Multiple witnesses to a crime can give multiple accounts, all of which are true, even though they differ (eg she was wearing a dressing gown, while another may say pyjamas, both can be correct on a timeline). I am sure that the British NHS is still waiting for the £350 million a week they were to get from Brexit! Is Independence really the solution to all ills promised by the SNP? Information can and does change the course of history even if it is a lie. It all depends on the energetic power behind the words (dark or light) and whether people find it credible. I see your view. It is commonly shared as well. "Lied to" shows it was not the will of the people. Hence the deception.. they have to be lead into it for it to occur. It is shown as a lie.. because of the truth. |
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Post by paul on Sept 7, 2022 10:37:19 GMT 9.5
>Information does little without the truth to back it up. In philosophy there is an error called Reification. Literally: making a substantial object out of a non-object. Thus the process of informing (putting into the form) e.g. learning about the nature of river flows - is turned into an object that can be moved and stored independently of a consciousness. Equally, the quality of being true to some person/principle/context when it is considered a truth, no longer needs a context. For example it is true that a stationary pendulum points to the center of the Earth - but in a context of gravitational anomaly, electrostatic field, ultrasound, RF radiation etc, the pendulum may not. www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/reification |
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Post by sc on Sept 7, 2022 14:09:56 GMT 9.5
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing." This phrasing to me is different in effect then simply "as above so below". The abbreviated version leaves logic to understand there is separation of the two. With the original meaning it leads logic to understand they are the same thing working toward a separate thing. I find this incredibly more beneficial for humanity to understand. Regardless our walk of life we all do it on the same ground and under the same sky, we call that one thing Earth. Even if it's people above and below it would all still be one thing.. humanity. Isaac Newton? |
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Post by sammy on Sept 7, 2022 22:52:12 GMT 9.5
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing." This phrasing to me is different in effect then simply "as above so below". The abbreviated version leaves logic to understand there is separation of the two. With the original meaning it leads logic to understand they are the same thing working toward a separate thing. I find this incredibly more beneficial for humanity to understand. Regardless our walk of life we all do it on the same ground and under the same sky, we call that one thing Earth. Even if it's people above and below it would all still be one thing.. humanity. Isaac Newton? I believe the translation was originally from Thoth. "The concept was first laid out in the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistu" |
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mind you a swarm of mini drones with needles attached could achieve the same, easier. Swat! 
