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Post by sammy on Oct 21, 2022 11:33:01 GMT 9.5
"On October 11, 2022, JP, who currently serves with the US Army, completed his second mission to an underground civilization in Florida. JP was again part of a squad of 8 soldiers drawn from different military services that met with representatives of an Ant Civilization. JP was in charge of security for the mission while two members of the squad conducted negotiations with the Ant People, who were upset that the gift given during the first mission had been sent to Europe contrary to an agreement that it would remain in the US." rumble.com/v1oor6u-2nd-mission-to-underground-civilization-in-florida-and-the-missing-gift-for.htmlKnowing how that state is managed its not surprising. Shoot their foot to spite their face.. They are making too much money to help anyone in America. Pushing pharmaceutical opioids though... they love doing that.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 21, 2022 19:22:30 GMT 9.5
I just don’t get (unless some sort of social experiment propaganda) how…
1. A person, from what would presumably be a top secret, strap whatever, need to know, project, can talk about such things without imprisonment. Governments, especially the U.S. go after such people with a vengeance. Hence, I am sorry to say this lacks credibility to me.
2. In this case why, the US would (unless to one of their own bases) give such advanced technology to Europe. Again it most likely be so tightly secured and compartmentalised that it baffles me how this could be credible (at least public knowledge thereof).
Maybe I am too cynical nowadays.
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Post by paul on Oct 21, 2022 19:25:00 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 21, 2022 23:24:41 GMT 9.5
I have said before..
There is more truth in our fiction then there is in our history books.
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Post by sammy on Oct 22, 2022 1:33:23 GMT 9.5
I just don’t get (unless some sort of social experiment propaganda) how… 1. A person, from what would presumably be a top secret, strap whatever, need to know, project, can talk about such things without imprisonment. Governments, especially the U.S. go after such people with a vengeance. Hence, I am sorry to say this lacks credibility to me. 2. In this case why, the US would (unless to one of their own bases) give such advanced technology to Europe. Again it most likely be so tightly secured and compartmentalised that it baffles me how this could be credible (at least public knowledge thereof). Maybe I am too cynical nowadays. I wouldn't believe everything you hear. Just try to keep an open mind while you listen.
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Post by sammy on Oct 22, 2022 12:32:28 GMT 9.5
Re before time:
I'm not sure how to compile or express my current collection of thoughts..
I feel as though I am in the position that "if you love something set it free, if it comes back it was meant to be.
Chasing fragments of fragments is proving more effort then it's worth.
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Post by paul on Jan 7, 2023 19:02:30 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jan 7, 2023 23:27:55 GMT 9.5
Use em, abuse em, then lose em. Sounds on par to me..
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 7:32:30 GMT 9.5
Reading an interview with Elena Danaan on exopolitics.org.
She talks about a Galactic Federation that is assisting this planet but being careful not to infringe the free will of humans - even when they have been fooled into signing agreements with alien groups.
She comments that the Federation is now starting to deal with adverse alien groups in/around this planet but has a problem.
It seems that alien technology transfer is a bit tricky ethically.
Adverse groups transfer technology to suitable human groups and get them to build alien craft. Since the alien craft have been built by humans, the Federation cannot deal with those craft. That would be to constrain human free will.
Elsewhere she reports a warning about nano "tracker dust". Apparently aliens do not need the implants that I often see in humans. I will learn to detect tracker dust
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Post by stewartedwards on Jan 11, 2023 9:08:11 GMT 9.5
Reading an interview with Elena Danaan on exopolitics.org. She talks about a Galactic Federation that is assisting this planet but being careful not to infringe the free will of humans - even when they have been fooled into signing agreements with alien groups. She comments that the Federation is now starting to deal with adverse alien groups in/around this planet but has a problem. It seems that alien technology transfer is a bit tricky ethically. Adverse groups transfer technology to suitable human groups and get them to build alien craft. Since the alien craft have been built by humans, the Federation cannot deal with those craft. That would be to constrain human free will. Elsewhere she reports a warning about nano "tracker dust". Apparently aliens do not need the implants that I often see in humans. I will learn to detect tracker dust What I sense is rather different, but I am happy to be wrong. In essence, in principle at least the groups are working better together for the common good. But reality could easily be otherwise, just like our politicians politicking. Re the dust, that is an old Soviet technique, used by the (as was) KGB, to track foreigners and locals who came into contact with them. Radioactive dust specific to each individual, placed on shoes and coats.
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 11:04:30 GMT 9.5
It was implied that the tracker dust transmits and hence provides the location of the tracked humans
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Post by sammy on Jan 11, 2023 11:35:49 GMT 9.5
I would agree with both Paul and Stewart.
The federation as a whole is for the greater good. However there are rules restricting matters involving free will. These rules don't leave us defenseless though. Things have a funny way of working out, cause and effect.
This doesn't mean we will be "saved" we all have to do that together on the same "page". Genetic/social progress is self derived. We have to "choose" our pathway, and with most things majority holds the floor (stronger/smarter together).
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 12:49:02 GMT 9.5
One of the earlier deals was with MJ12 - bypassing Pres Eisenhower. This seems to indicate that non-elected humans can make decisions on behalf of the whole.
Some of us, being implicitly human in this cycle, may be of sufficient status to make similar decisions on behalf of Earth humanity.
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Post by sammy on Jan 11, 2023 13:43:24 GMT 9.5
When it comes to the "power" of change it doesn't come cheap.. it would be the last thing those who have it would admit or relinquish.
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Post by stewartedwards on Jan 11, 2023 17:00:50 GMT 9.5
One of the earlier deals was with MJ12 - bypassing Pres Eisenhower. This seems to indicate that non-elected humans can make decisions on behalf of the whole. Some of us, being implicitly human in this cycle, may be of sufficient status to make similar decisions on behalf of Earth humanity. Thoughts… 1. The film and tv series ‘Darkskies’ (which is very good) has this theme. (Sentence 1 above). 2. From the perspective of our visiting friends, your second sentence makes solid sense. From monitoring our politics and militaries they may have decided that they are simply and largely warmongers and/or looking after national/personal self interest. Which to be fair is their job. Equally, perhaps through abductees who may have been enhanced, they may prefer their own choice of contact on Earth. Finally, as Paul alludes too, they may prefer to deal with people who (1) are purely human in this incarnation, but who have a known proven long term history and (2) have proven themselves in this lifetime on matters that matter to them. Ie have, to use Paul’s words, ‘spiritual authority’. The big question is, how many such people are currently living on this planet? Added: what I always found amusing was pondering while our powers that be argue and agree on who should represent this planet, that decision may have been made by our visiting friends a long time ago, quite possibly pre the current incarnation of everyone on this planet. Or perhaps as a result of this life spiritual progress.
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 17:41:26 GMT 9.5
Without wanting to say too much in public, for a while in meditation they would say "hurry up - come along!" and push me outside the planet saying "Incoming!" and leave me to deal with whoever was arriving.
On some occasions I would have a 3D human sitting next to me observing. Reality however requires deeper tests than eye witnesses
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Post by stewartedwards on Jan 11, 2023 18:12:26 GMT 9.5
Without wanting to say too much in public, for a while in meditation they would say "hurry up - come along!" and push me outside the planet saying "Incoming!" and leave me to deal with whoever was arriving. On some occasions I would have a 3D human sitting next to me observing. Reality however requires deeper tests than eye witnesses Interesting Paul. 1. Re impatience, that may simply be a factor of how challenging earthly incarnation can be (which to be fair helps experience). Equally though, from their perspective they probably have a better handle on the current need for speed to avoid undesirable outcomes that humans increasingly recognise but are too addicted to adequately deal with so far. 2. Your role is an interesting one Paul. A beacon in the darkness. Comforting, guiding. 3. I don’t think that there is any real issue from the perspective of our visiting friends. Different groups likely have different agendas, though together I think that they recognise that crunch time is upon us. It’s just a question of which way humanity will go. War or peace. Sustainability or poverty for all. Will we gain proper access to space or will Elon Musks dreams die. Etc. I would think that they listen to who they choose to listen to on Earth, a bit like the Old Chinese man in the film ‘The Day the Earth Stood Still.’ Sadly some national leaders are likely to be a bit uncomfortable with that. But that just reflects the different perspectives of the two parties. 4. The big issue, as noted above, are human power structures. Fear of loss, desire for more and relative advantage. But then again that goes back to evolutionary processes and the realities of certain jobs/careers. 5. While I in no way think that I am the only one Paul (to me it would make sense to have others), I do genuinely believe that (1) my report back will be taken seriously and may (though this is above my pay grade as the Americans might say) define humanities future (a leg up to the next evolutionary less addictive level); (2) had either (a) I performed better myself or (b) fellow humans had better enabled me a couple of decades ago, we may well be in a much more globally secure position right now. But we are where we are. (1) is going to happen unless (3) somehow I am enabled pretty much immediately, with the necessary resources as explained previously. But even so, I think we are likely too late, so while the resources are necessary they are not sufficient for having a reasonable chance of self evolutionary success, which would now require pretty broad human buy in, which to say the least is somewhat unlikely. 6. Perhaps the next in line should step up? This might be why you are being encouraged yourself Paul?
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 18:31:16 GMT 9.5
I rather think that parallel processing and redundancy are key factors in managing the processes of this solar system
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Post by stewartedwards on Jan 11, 2023 18:41:51 GMT 9.5
I rather think that parallel processing and redundancy are key factors in managing the processes of this solar system Which makes perfect sense Paul. Are the others having more success? I hope so.
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Post by paul on Jan 11, 2023 19:40:13 GMT 9.5
On several occasions I have pushed Earth humanity along this timeline and each time at about 2080 they get quite cheerful
Elena Danaan gets similar messages from her contacts
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