>We ask that you learn compassion, and compassion is not being co-dependant: “Oh, let me take care of you!” Compassion is being willing to do whatever is necessary to assist someone in taking their next higher step. That occasionally means kicking someone’s feet out from under them: that occasionally means being a wakeup call: That occasionally means calling someone on their “stuff “ : and it often means loving them for their wholeness, their totality, the parts of them that are awake as well as the parts of them that are asleep, Remember they go into sleep with the first part of the Mission.
I'm struggling with that part at the moment, for a while actually. Because I want to be the 'good' guy. I know I'm not helping a particular person by allowing them to get away with so much, but I can't seem to break the cycle. I know that the key is understanding something about myself but it eludes me.
interesting post fox
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Explains compassion in this sense as stated above it also shows how discouragement by ourselfs and those we hold dear are detrimental to achieving ones own highest capability's
the antagonist in the film Shows Love in it's pure sense if at first it seems like hes out for blood give it a watch if you have the time...it's very complex film and touches on subjects that are discussed on this forum....
Foxfires -- are u talking about David Deida that is all i could find with the name reference a google video search shows lectures and talks..
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>We ask that you learn compassion, and compassion is not being co-dependant: “Oh, let me take care of you!” Compassion is being willing to do whatever is necessary to assist someone in taking their next higher step. That occasionally means kicking someone’s feet out from under them: that occasionally means being a wakeup call: That occasionally means calling someone on their “stuff “ : and it often means loving them for their wholeness, their totality, the parts of them that are awake as well as the parts of them that are asleep, Remember they go into sleep with the first part of the Mission.
I'm struggling with that part at the moment, for a while actually. Because I want to be the 'good' guy. I know I'm not helping a particular person by allowing them to get away with so much, but I can't seem to break the cycle. I know that the key is understanding something about myself but it eludes me.
Interesting post. Your approach reminds me of what I have been taught to call "disinterested compassion". It means to do the right thing and not worry about the results. I can neither control nor take responsibility for how someone responds to a situation. If someone chooses not to grow I cannot force them. I recently saw this summed up nicely in the phrase "Sometimes you have to let people go, not because you don't care - because they don't".
Explains compassion in this sense as stated above it also shows how discouragement by ourselfs and those we hold dear are detrimental to achieving ones own highest capability's
the antagonist in the film Shows Love in it's pure sense if at first it seems like hes out for blood give it a watch if you have the time...it's very complex film and touches on subjects that are discussed on this forum....
I just watched this film earlier this week. My take is that the teacher in the film loves music and sees the players as tools in the pursuit of perfection. When he lashes it is not directed at the players but at their imperfections. Although, to the players, it sure looks personal.
>We ask that you learn compassion, and compassion is not being co-dependant: “Oh, let me take care of you!” Compassion is being willing to do whatever is necessary to assist someone in taking their next higher step. That occasionally means kicking someone’s feet out from under them: that occasionally means being a wakeup call: That occasionally means calling someone on their “stuff “ : and it often means loving them for their wholeness, their totality, the parts of them that are awake as well as the parts of them that are asleep, Remember they go into sleep with the first part of the Mission.
I'm struggling with that part at the moment, for a while actually. Because I want to be the 'good' guy. I know I'm not helping a particular person by allowing them to get away with so much, but I can't seem to break the cycle. I know that the key is understanding something about myself but it eludes me.
Interesting post. Your approach reminds me of what I have been taught to call "disinterested compassion". It means to do the right thing and not worry about the results. I can neither control nor take responsibility for how someone responds to a situation. If someone chooses not to grow I cannot force them. I recently saw this summed up nicely in the phrase "Sometimes you have to let people go, not because you don't care - because they don't".
>"Sometimes you have to let people go, not because you don't care - because they don't".
There can be other disqualifications as well.
In another post I described a woman that I started to help and later saw walking with her head bobbling around - indicating an unusual weakness in the neck muscles. She cannot make effective use of my help until she develops a reasonable level of will and that will show itself in a much stronger neck.
