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Post by paul on May 31, 2013 7:42:58 GMT 9.5
Here is part of an email I received today:
"So what we want to do is bring angelic energy through your body. So you just invite angelic presence or angelic energy to come through your body, to channel through it. And then you can kind of give the command “birth angels” and then breathe out.
And oftentimes what you see are spheres of light and they could be little tiny ones or soccer ball size or whatever but you see almost like bubbles literally sort of coming out in the aura and then you can just keep requesting that.
You want the angelic presence to come through you, through your physical body, and then birth angels onto the physical plane of consciousness. "
I would be interested to hear how we get on with the experiment.
There are more technical processes possible too, based on access to that mysterious ladder.
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Post by LorrB on May 31, 2013 9:07:50 GMT 9.5
And if you want to do it groupwise just pay special attention to the instant when the SW 'closes the lodge'.
Well that is when it happens for us in our lodge.
I would not have thought that we were creating angels though, rather as you say, we are transforming the angelic energy for general use.
On a personal basis I will try this experiment at home and report.
I found out quite by accident that if one photographs the room where one meditates directly after a meditation it features quite a few orbs of varying shapes, sizes and intensity of light.
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Post by LorrB on May 31, 2013 9:22:45 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on May 31, 2013 9:28:16 GMT 9.5
Quite correct - although these are lesser angels (nature spirits)
If the lodge works particularly well it can generate a drop of light suited to the body of the Solar Logos. Thus one of the works of Masons in lodge is to contribute to the light body of the Greater Being.
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Post by paul on Aug 11, 2013 17:19:04 GMT 9.5
>And then you can kind of give the command “birth angels” and then breathe out.
This suggests that by intent, suitable humans can create (lesser) angelic beings at will. Now if the above photos are of lesser angels, it should be possible to set up an experiment: leave a digital camera taking periodic photos and sit in front and try to birth angels.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 12, 2013 10:29:42 GMT 9.5
Hmmnn .. if the best we can do with a beautiful ceremony is produce nature spirits, I doubt that I could produce an angel. Must admit I have trouble getting my head around humans producing angels. My beautiful daughter being the exception  I kind of hoped or understood that an angel might have the edge on the man in the street - how can stone produce a plant, how can a plant produce and animal, how can an animal(us) produce and angel? I have believed that all the aforementioned is a matter of progression rather than momentary birthing. |
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2013 10:42:07 GMT 9.5
The term angel covers a wide spectrum. Each chakra has its own (normally lesser) angel.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 12, 2013 11:14:32 GMT 9.5
That I can understand.
So are you saying that we can externalise this chakra angel?
Why would we want to? Who minds the house in the meantime?
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2013 11:19:52 GMT 9.5
>we can externalise this chakra angel?
We certainly can. Stage performers do it all the time to fill the auditorium with their energy/aura
On a small scale, mothers do it for the home and family - to maintain a suitable atmosphere.
But the creation breathing process referred above uses the chakra entities to generate simpler entities. Creation of more complex entities requires understanding of structural principles
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Post by paul on Aug 12, 2013 12:22:37 GMT 9.5
>>we can externalise this chakra angel?
Once in a workshop a fellow let his out to play and they all ran away and did not return. Instead he had a new set, and the next week in the workshop a number of participants commented that he (his personality) had changed.
As far as I recall he went through the first (genuine) initiation at the same time - and therefore knew (without belief) that Life has meaning.
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Post by paul on Aug 13, 2013 7:34:59 GMT 9.5
>not everyone has the same status or ability
Quite so. If the human does not have control of the relevant plane and orderliness in that substance then the entity of that chakra may well ignore instructions
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Post by LorrB on Aug 13, 2013 7:38:37 GMT 9.5
LOL ... I can just imagine 'the coiled serpent' at the base of the spine thinking 'wake me when you're ready', then snoozing off.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 13, 2013 7:40:02 GMT 9.5
GRIN ... and do we have to tap him to wake him up?
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Post by paul on Aug 13, 2013 7:59:32 GMT 9.5
GRIN ... and do we have to tap him to wake him up? The tap is also a knock. |
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Post by paul on Aug 13, 2013 9:01:08 GMT 9.5
>The awakening stories that go well are when humans seem to wish to save someone's life
The occasions of superhuman strength may not be the result of enlightenment so much as the result of high emotional impulse to the elementals of the physical body. The elementals do not necessarily understand Newtonian physics.
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Post by paul on Aug 13, 2013 11:20:26 GMT 9.5
>the kundalini operates the elemental sprite like energies inside of us
Quite so but it is only half of the process. There needs to be an answering flow from on high.
And if the light body of the candidate is poorly structured then a variety of damage may result - carrying over into subsequent lives.
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Post by paul on Aug 14, 2013 6:05:24 GMT 9.5
>Not drinking and remaining pure, avoiding alcohol, avoiding senseless arguments, and dedication to God, spending time in temple worship...
Typical work of the Entered Apprentice Freemason
>subsequent life damage would be from abusing the power, not just from being activated improperly
The effects are carried over in various forms:
- patterning of the levels of the light body
- qualities of the elemental and devic entities used in the chakras
- personal and group karma
- relationships
- quality of intent
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Post by paul on Jul 16, 2014 7:29:06 GMT 9.5
>why could there not be aquatic men and women to parallel terrestrial men and women?
"Berosus, the Babylonian historian and priest of Bel, .... his account of a being called ” Oannes,” ” the Annedotus,” partly human and partly fish, who appeared to the people of Babylonia and taught them ” letters and science and every kind of art. He taught them to construct houses, to found temples, to compile laws, and explained to them the principles of geometrical knowledge. From that time, so universal were his instructions, nothing material has been added by way of improvement.” ... In addition to the first Oannes, Berosus mentions other Annedoti of a similar form who appeared in the reigns of other kings, and who ” related to the people whatever Oannes had informed them of,” that is to say, they instructed the people in the same knowledge.
The idea of amphibian teachers is very widespread. For example we have Vishnu (half fish, half man), the Fisher King (of the Grail), Jesus represented by a fish sign, the various sea gods including Albion (son of Poseidon), the Sumerian god Ea (Ja?), and Oannes appears in modified form as Jonah.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 16, 2014 10:20:40 GMT 9.5
Jonah swallowed by the whale...
Being boarding a submarine or other sea vehicle ..?
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Post by paul on Jul 16, 2014 10:44:46 GMT 9.5
The editors of the Old Testament were hardly going to admit that Oannes was/is biologically the same species as the god of the Old Testament that refused to have portraits.
Alternatively, later editors may not have understood that amphibians could disappear into the sea for days at time, hence invented a story of being swallowed by a whale and presumably going into suspended animation (no air) and being immune to digestive juices of a flesh-eating animal.
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