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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2011 14:03:44 GMT 9.5
A lot of people talk to their cars and a few maintain that their cars talk back. "Formula One driver Alan McNish nudges it further sideways, just for fun. He knows only too well that sideways is the slow way round a bend but he is simply making a point about the car’s poise and agility. “This car talks to me,” he grins, “and when it does, it’s in my language.”" www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/14cb9296-fa33-11db-8bd0-000b5df10621.html#axzz1XUeEKmXc"My car talks to me. She tells where she wants to go if I'm driving her. She gets upset if I bring a. female in my car. Am I crazy? I'm not on drugs. She won't talk if others around, just to me. I has my car two years now, and she never started talking to me until this year." answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110621030044AAl7Hyq
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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2011 14:06:06 GMT 9.5
Do you talk to your car? Votes Answer 15 Yes, all the time. 17 Sometimes, if the situation warrants. 4 I did it once, I think. 11 I never do this. 6 Be serious, its a hunk of metal! 8 I do it to let off steam. 20 I do it when the car needs encouragement. 19 I do it when the car does something good. 3 I do it to be sociable. 4 I do it to freak out mundanes. 2 I do it for another reason which I will explain below.. 12 My car has a name, and that is... 5 My car talks to me. 1 My car told me its name. 9 I have done this on all of my cars. 2 I did this with a car once, but not my current car. yes.. Yes.. and my car has a name.. his name is sir thomas.. and he talks back to me... He's mean.. he and i have a love hate relationship.. if he pisses me off-- i threaten to punish him.. NO OIL FOR YOU! --... He has a very foul mouth.. and he doesn't like traffic.. but he loves big hills.. and going way too fast. He hits on every girl that gets in my car... and he is a stick shift... *wink*--.. and um.. his back seat is his most sensitive area.. *khoff* Yes, and she talks back to me, too. Her name is Cori. surveycentral.org/survey/2825.html
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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2011 14:11:07 GMT 9.5
'In classic Feng Shui this location is called "Tiger Eyes" because the headlights of an oncoming car shine in the windows of a house located at a T-junction and resemble two eyes. '
Many houses have a garage built on the living level and are thereby subject to tiger eyes even when the internal door is closed.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 9, 2011 19:15:47 GMT 9.5
Masonic usage refers to "the dead level and the living perpendicular."
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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2011 19:21:38 GMT 9.5
Do you have a contribution to the thread?
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Post by tamrin on Sept 9, 2011 19:36:13 GMT 9.5
That was it (for now).
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Post by stewart edwards on Sept 10, 2011 18:52:07 GMT 9.5
I have largely stayed away form esoteric books, though have found them useful for giving me confirmation of things that I already know (sorry that does sound arrogant), but one book, "Initiation into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon, I was at an early stage drawn to in a bookshop and I did read it when I understood little. Didnt follow it but I did read it. It sort of acted a bit like both a signpost and as a key. Been sitting on my shelf ever since. Anyhow my point. I am fairly certain that in there is a teaching method that would enable you to talk to cars, or anything else for that matter. If I remember correctly the bit that I am thinking of is where it tells you to learn to become able to look at our world from the perspective of any object, a picture even. (Realising that as I read this years ago I may be muddling my sources - apologies now if I am). Anyhow the book offers a training plan to enable such abilities. While I never followed it I did think hard about the philosophy of conceptually being able to view our world from the perspective of other objects, and after some years I found that it was not that difficult. Perhaps the easiest way to do it is to look into your garden and start to think about our world from the perspective of a flower that only lives one year, and develop from there. Anyhow what you need to do (and I am no expert in this) is simply connect with the planetary wide energy structure that binds us all. As with most things esoteric it is easiest to do this when you are completely relaxed and not thinking about it. Even the army I understand teach it, though in a different way, to help enable soldiers sense danger when on long cold stints of guard duty in the field. Alternatively look into the research of some animal rights charities on the scientific blind test repeatable research even by skeptical scientists who tried to prove it wrong, on how dogs can read the minds of their owners. The underlying energy grid that enables all of this is the same. But for humans, being totally relaxed is probably the most effective way. A bit like in the martial arts when a true master flows beautifully with deadly force when fully relaxed. Its all connected. So to talk to cars, simply become one with it. And if you ever get a response let me know. Personally I would start with learning to communicate with animals for that is much easier. Cant help but wonder if this sourt of stuff is taught by those high hied yins in the Hermetic masonic orders (given that the methods to do it are to be found in well regarded hermetics books as noted above)
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Post by paul on Sept 10, 2011 19:14:02 GMT 9.5
Bardon teaches increased sensitivity to the elements (elementals). I must admit I have not been drawn to it myself.
Such practice is certainly able to increase sensitivity of the senses including extremely acute hearing. There are other means to such sensitivity.
I have a friend who at the beach finds the sounds of the oysters much too loud.
Such sensitivity, in most sufferers, is induced by trauma including jungle warfare (Vietnam) and the Inquisition. Inquisition sufferers often have a problem with ticking clocks.
A better approach, as you have indicated is achievement of some degree of oneness.
I had a modest experience of that long ago. I was sitting in the communal dining room with the fellow who ran the garage. He asked me about his car - I knew it by sight only.
I projected into the car and immediately had some difficulty breathing so I said that I thought there was a problem in the carburetor. He said that was correct.
Then I noticed my wrists felt very floppy and deduced that there was excess wear in the front suspension and so there was.
Hearing the nature spirit of the car speak obviously has some preconditions - some of which are on the side of the human and some on the side of other entities.
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Post by paul on Sept 10, 2011 19:19:04 GMT 9.5
In the program Wheeler Dealers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler_Dealers Mike and Edd do up old cars for sale. Mike often says that a car is talking to him. Occasionally he will say "this car is not talking to me" and he never buys such a car. It is a fun series available on the web if you look around.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 12, 2011 8:53:33 GMT 9.5
If every visible unit, animate or inanimate, is composed of Mind matter, then talking to a car or a tea cup should produce similar results as to prayer and/or meditation.... just operating at a different level.
Healers diagnose patients with mind scans all the time.
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Post by paul on Sept 12, 2011 9:16:57 GMT 9.5
Some car entities certainly function on the mental plane but most are more focussed on the emotional plane.
It is an interesting exercise to walk around a car park measuring the subplanes on which the car entities are focussed.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 12, 2011 10:06:47 GMT 9.5
If every visible unit, animate or inanimate, is composed of Mind matter, then talking to a car or a tea cup should produce similar results as to prayer and/or meditation.... just operating at a different level. I suggest we consider Systems Theory (see Capra’s Turning Point) for some insight as to what is a hallmark of mentation and whether or not it can properly be applied to inanimate, composite entities. At the most minute level, matter appears and disappears from the energetic source of being — Some persist. This persistence requires a degree of equilibrium within dynamic parameters and implies memory and, by further implication, mind. Further along , this self-organization is evident in atoms, molecules and crystals and a case could be put for these having a degree of mentation. Thus while a crystal demonstrates “mind” by maintaining itself, by growth and by reproduction, a brute rock simply decomposes and does not demonstrate any “organic” qualities. In the later case only its constituent matter exhibit evidence of mind. Still further along, a car has been artificially assembled and does not exhibit self-organization, self-maintenance, functional displacements, growth or reproduction. The only “mind” present in its maintenance comes from without: “Mind you,” that mind will benefit greatly from a thorough immersion and familiarity in the subject of car maintenance (as described in Pirsig’s Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance). Still further along, we find that Earth itself exhibits many “organic” functions (see Lovelock’s Gaia) and this brings us another step further to the notion of a universal mind being a reasonable hypothesis.
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Post by paul on Oct 3, 2011 10:58:44 GMT 9.5
A friend recounted that her partner used to drive her through some minor roads to bypass the centre of the city.
One day she was driving by herself and needed the short cut but did not know where it was. She decided that the car must know so asked the car to find the way - and it did.
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Post by LorrB on Oct 4, 2011 8:19:14 GMT 9.5
When absent minded my car takes me to where it usually goes, even if I had something else in mind. Our minds are marvellous, ever driven along the usual route and noticed that 'a tree has gone' when you were not consciously away of that specific tree previously. In 15 kms, whiy would your mind notice when an insignificant tree is gone, expecially when sometimes if a house is gone you can't remember what the house looked like.
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Post by paul on Oct 24, 2011 11:40:48 GMT 9.5
I recall when I first understood that cars have intelligence. A friend was giving me a lift home and I thought I would give the car intelligence some help.
About 30 seconds later he stopped the car and got out and walked around checking all the tyres. He got back in saying: I could have sworn I had a flat tyre.
After that I tended to leave cars to their owners.
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Post by sekhmet on Jan 15, 2012 14:38:35 GMT 9.5
Somebody once told me that elementals like to 'inhabit' things that have "eyes". Thus it is not too farfetched a possibility that an elemental being should 'take possession of" a car. it has 'eyes", and is a coherent kind of object, with a circulatory system, a frame, joints, and appetite, etc. just as a carbon-based "being" has.
Anyone here ever actually seen an elemental "in the flesh"? I have; a salamander. It was looking at me from around the flame of a candle; it did in fact look like a salamander (the head, anyway; that was all that was showing) a black one with two glowing sparks for eyes.
I stared at it as long as I could, making sure that I wasn't just mistaking it for some anomalous "carbon formation" in the wick (I have occasionally encountered the wicks of candles having formed some very odd "carbon bubbles which grew to fairly considerable dimensions; this was not the case here) How do I know? Because when I finally looked away and back again , the elemental was gone from the flame- and there was NOTHING around or in the flame or the wax underneath; a "carbon bubble' would have stayed where it was, or collapsed into the melted wax.
I am glad i got to see a "fire" elemental if I had to see any elemental, because there was no mistaking it for anything else; a sylph could be mistaken for 'a bird", an undine for 'a fish", a gnome for "a rabbit" or other woodland creature' but seeing something looking out at me from a flame, removed all doubt as to the nature of the being I was looking at!
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Post by paul on Jan 15, 2012 14:49:41 GMT 9.5
The head lights of a car are called "tiger eyes" in Feng Shui. Generally you should park the car so that eyes are not looking at you. But if unable to do that, speak to the car and it may well close its eyes for you. Mine is well house-trained.
I once saw a nature spirit about 5 foot tall, seated at the foot of a tree with Robin Hood cap and pointed shoes. I saw it out of the corner of my eye and (as expected) when I looked directly I could not see it. That however I would not call an elemental.
I have seen the bodies of elementals in the form of mist and fire, do rather odd things like flames standing upright in a 20 mph breeze.
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Post by sekhmet on Jan 18, 2012 13:25:20 GMT 9.5
Yes, it is always interesting to see 'anomalous behaviour' such as you describe! "Vimalananda" in his book 'Kundalini", described a situation during homa (Hindu fire worship) where the worshiper (one of his students) lifted a box of sweets to offer them and they all accidentally fell into the fire and began to burn. He actually started to cry because he would have no "prasad" (a share of the offered- up food as a blessing) and one sweet immediately fell out of the fire onto his leg! I have also had ritual incidents where a small coal from the fire fell on my arm- and immediately went out before it burned me. Another one landed on my arm-but "jumped up" again and landed on my bracelet where it did no harm. When I was at this same festival, where a very large bonfire was being lit (when I say "large" I mean like three stories high). There were fireworks incorporated into the woodpile in order to start it off. When they did so, I "saw' the fire come to life; it was like an immense being had opened its eyes...I shouldn't say "like an immense being"- it WAS an immense being! That was the weekend I received my 'Scarlet Woman initiation from that Lama; that was one of the oddest weeks of my life! A fire "coming to life" was only ONE of the numerous 'anomalous' events that took place that week!
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Post by paul on Jan 18, 2012 13:37:12 GMT 9.5
.. fireworks incorporated into the woodpile in order to start it off. When they did so, I "saw' the fire come to life; it was like an immense being had opened its eyes..... The absence of that is what I find disappointing with public fireworks displays. There is no sense of providing a body of manifestation for a fire being.
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Post by LorrB on Jan 19, 2012 7:26:02 GMT 9.5
I was shown a photo recently of Japanese monks performing a fire ceremony... BIG fire ... and one side of the flames formed a huge face. Might have been a fluke, but it was a very impressive photo I have to say.
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